You forget that we can't control the actions of others, sure it would be all good if everybody lived by the ten commandments but life just isnt like that. People are stupid and do stupid things. Remember before 911 we were all good and everything was ok. But outside forces changed this and we had to stop it. You cant use pacifism against Ak-47s.

[quote="Garry Coleman":a0684][quote=jujumantb][quote="Garry Coleman":a0684][quote="Short Hand":a0684][quote="Sgt Stryker":a0684]so you just do whatever some morons upstairs tell you without question?

what if a new president in the near future told you to round up the mexicans and gas them?[/quote:a0684]


garry that comment you just made is a huge reason for the world to shit their pants at the sight of America.[/quote:a0684]i've already said before. America (not getting technical with the electoral college) isn't going to elect an insane man as president. I have faith in the selection of our leaders because "they run for president to make further america as a whole".[/quote:a0684]
Our voting system is horrible IMO. I dont want the ditz who sits next to me in english class to be voting for my president, I dont want one of those "republican/democrat ALL THE WAY!" fuckers voting for my president, you let stupid people vote you get stupid government. America puts equality in voting over smart voting to get a good government... and we end up with the fuckups we have now in office. I think there needs to be some sort of political test before voting to make sure you know what you're voting for.
Edit- and the electoral college is a good idea in its premiss, but they basically follow popular so it doesnt do its job how it should...[/quote:a0684]that totally ruins the idea of America being a land in which the average citizen has a say in the government. As much as I hate the local retard voting, it's the only way to make sure the majority is happy. WHy would you have 10% of Americans deciding what all of us do? I'd hate to say it, but that statement you made sounds like the middle ages with the clergy having a huge say over the masses.[/quote:a0684]
Well I understand what you are saying. That is the general will of America; equality. How far will that get us though? I'm not saying select only a few people to vote for our leader, that wouldn't work. I'm saying make sure those who are voting are competent and know what they are voting for. Nowadays it is all VOTE VOTE VOTE... nomatter what you know because it is your duty... BS if you are just gonna throw a vote down then dont. Administering a simple test would allow most ALL people to vote, they would just need to make an effort to know what they are voting for.
btw; the clergy? you mean the pope :) clergy

[quote=Pyro]I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.[/quote:57ae8]

I'm talking down on your level so perhaps you could understand.....but i see even that doesn't help. Whats a guy to do? **shrugs shoulders

/me sits back and chuggs on a brew

[quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro]I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.[/quote:d4f3b]

I'm talking down on your level so perhaps you could understand.....but i see even that doesn't help. Whats a guy to do? **shrugs shoulders

/me sits back and chuggs on a brew[/quote:d4f3b]

If my level exceeds yours it is hard to go own towards it. Try adding to the thread instead of destroying it.

actually, no i meant all of the people associated with Catholicism. Feudal systems dominated where the local priest was the big shot.

[quote="Short Hand":04f02]you just called BUSH" a good leader.... wow, the amount of brainwashing that has been done to you is amazing...[/quote:04f02]

Some people feel that Bush is a good leader. I realize that is beyond your comprehesion. Brainwashing? No, some just have different views than you do. Some people might feel that you are brainwashed in to your views..just a thought from the other side of the fence...

[quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro]I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.[/quote:c35e4]

I'm talking down on your level so perhaps you could understand.....but i see even that doesn't help. Whats a guy to do? **shrugs shoulders

/me sits back and chuggs on a brew[/quote:c35e4]

If my level exceeds yours it is hard to go own towards it. Try adding to the thread instead of destroying it.[/quote:c35e4]

Here ya go, i'll add something worthwhile to this shitty thread.
Go fuck yourself!!

/me stands back and admires my words of wisdom....chuggs down another brew.......BURP !!

[quote="Garry Coleman":d050f]actually, no i meant all of the people associated with Catholicism. Feudal systems dominated where the local priest was the big shot.[/quote:d050f]

Im happy those times are over.

[quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro]I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.[/quote:608c3]

I'm talking down on your level so perhaps you could understand.....but i see even that doesn't help. Whats a guy to do? **shrugs shoulders

/me sits back and chuggs on a brew[/quote:608c3]

If my level exceeds yours it is hard to go own towards it. Try adding to the thread instead of destroying it.[/quote:608c3]

Here ya go, i'll add something worthwhile to this shitty thread.
Go fuck yourself!!

/me stands back and admires my words of wisdom....chuggs down another brew.......BURP !![/quote:608c3]

At least I know the intelligence of the people who gave Bush power.

[quote="Short Hand":cbd76]you just called BUSH" a good leader.... wow, the amount of brainwashing that has been done to you is amazing...[/quote:cbd76]

get off this crap. bush supporters are entitled to their opinions. im sick of the liberals here beating the "brainwashed Americans" drum in reference to conservatives. if kerry wins, so be it but i will not sit and criticize those who like him/think he is a good leader as brainwashed. while i dont agree with pyro or what he believes, at least he is trying to get a discussion going while your dumb ass remarks are meant to be nothing but flame bait. bait taken.

edit: after posting and seeing pyro's last comment, i take what i said about him back

well get used to it.. you can expect to whine and piss about it for four more years and plzdie: no joke

[quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote="Pyro":abc9b]I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.[/quote:abc9b]

I'm talking down on your level so perhaps you could understand.....but i see even that doesn't help. Whats a guy to do? **shrugs shoulders

/me sits back and chuggs on a brew[/quote:abc9b]

If my level exceeds yours it is hard to go own towards it. Try adding to the thread instead of destroying it.[/quote:abc9b]

Here ya go, i'll add something worthwhile to this shitty thread.
Go fuck yourself!!

/me stands back and admires my words of wisdom....chuggs down another brew.......BURP !![/quote:abc9b]

At least I know the intelligence of the people who gave Bush power.[/quote:abc9b]

Now there you go again....butting your snout in my business. Do us all a favor, sit in the family car in the garage with it running, swallow a bunch of pills, wash it down with a bottle of scotch and call us in the morning.

[quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote="Arkan":ab0e5][quote="Pyro":ab0e5]I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.[/quote:ab0e5]

I'm talking down on your level so perhaps you could understand.....but i see even that doesn't help. Whats a guy to do? **shrugs shoulders

/me sits back and chuggs on a brew[/quote:ab0e5]

If my level exceeds yours it is hard to go own towards it. Try adding to the thread instead of destroying it.[/quote:ab0e5]

Here ya go, i'll add something worthwhile to this shitty thread.
Go fuck yourself!!

/me stands back and admires my words of wisdom....chuggs down another brew.......BURP !![/quote:ab0e5]

At least I know the intelligence of the people who gave Bush power.[/quote:ab0e5]

Now there you go again....butting your snout in my business. Do us all a favor, sit in the family car in the garage with it running, swallow a bunch of pills, wash it down with a bottle of scotch and call us in the morning.[/quote:ab0e5]

Don't enter my thread if you don't want your business to be used.

jesus fuck, lock this thing

[quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote="Pyro":2c3cd][quote="Arkan":2c3cd][quote="Pyro":2c3cd]I am very surpized you're older than I am. Could of fooled me.[/quote:2c3cd]

I'm talking down on your level so perhaps you could understand.....but i see even that doesn't help. Whats a guy to do? **shrugs shoulders

/me sits back and chuggs on a brew[/quote:2c3cd]

If my level exceeds yours it is hard to go own towards it. Try adding to the thread instead of destroying it.[/quote:2c3cd]

Here ya go, i'll add something worthwhile to this shitty thread.
Go fuck yourself!!

/me stands back and admires my words of wisdom....chuggs down another brew.......BURP !![/quote:2c3cd]

At least I know the intelligence of the people who gave Bush power.[/quote:2c3cd]

Now there you go again....butting your snout in my business. Do us all a favor, sit in the family car in the garage with it running, swallow a bunch of pills, wash it down with a bottle of scotch and call us in the morning.[/quote:2c3cd]

Don't enter my thread if you don't want your business to be used.[/quote:2c3cd]

Oh, you own this thread? Show me the deed to this thread lil' piss boy.
I'd like to sit here and argue with you just for shits and giggles but i just decided it would be better if i got laid. You do know what a pussy is, do you?
Hint: It's not the family cat !