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c312 07-30-2005 10:47 AM

Gentiles = non beleiver

Jesus used parables to teach in metaphorical and strange ways. maybe this was a way to see if she, being of non beleiver origin was sincere about her faith. She proved her faith so he healed her.

KTOG 07-30-2005 06:14 PM

I'm siding with c312 on the gentiles issue/

Tripper 07-30-2005 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnj
Short, at the end of the story did the broad get what she was after? Lets look at it a different way. GOD tells Jesus to only help the Gentiles. Canaanite woman asks for help. Jesus says no, thinks about it and disobeys GODs orders and helps her out. GOD puts Jesus on cross to punish him. Jesus dies and three days later his stunt double shows up and says OMG WTF!

Short click [url=http://www.revilocartoons.com/ugly%20people/This%20is%20you%20falling%20copy.jpg:106aa]this[/url:106aa]. Go ahead I dare you. I double dog dare you.


dance:

He commited an act of discrimination. THUS RACISM. THUS JESUS "WAS" a racist. Period. He made a mistake which he fixed, but he still made it. Jesus "was" a racist".

I don't get what you're saying. Where is the racial discrimination? All I read is Jesus explaining that god sent him down to help those that didn't believe he was the son of god.

Well, it would be hard to see the racism if you don't know the background of it all.... In Judah, Caananites were considered to be inferior to the people of Judah.... MAINLY for their support of conquerors in the past, such as the Greeks, Roman's, & Bablynonians (mind my spelling on those...). So to any person from Judah @ the time they considered Caananites inferior people, like Blacks were looked down upo in the south back in the 50's and 60's.... Does it make any sense now ? Gentiles were also treated in this type of way as well, a gentile being someone who was not jewish or foreign to the area. Jesus told her to screw off at first due to her being a Caananite. happy: ....this is hard to understand if you have no clue about the geography and political turmoil of the time.[/quote:106aa]

It's not racism. It's religous prejudice. For like one second of Jesus' whole life. Omfg, he's so fucking evil.

You wasted so much of your own time following up this "argument." rolleyes:[/quote:106aa]

You go on and think that champ. rolleyes:
Just a reminder, I wasted no more then 3 to 4 minutes typing it up, that was just beforehand knowledge I had from 14 years of religous study in school wackwad. nag:[/quote:106aa]

Whatever, it's still pathetic that you tried to make a point out of that.....and that you even initially said it in the first place. You were just causing trouble with irrelevent to the issue, anti-conservative, remarks.

Short Hand 07-31-2005 05:25 PM

I am a massive trouble maker. & a note to c132486u85930, she was a Caananite as well. rolleyes:

c312 07-31-2005 06:17 PM

but it never specified whether or not being a canaanite or being a gentile was the important thing.

Short Hand 07-31-2005 06:32 PM

Caannite of course, I mentioned both, I should have kept to the Caananite side of it though.

c312 07-31-2005 06:43 PM

I meant the Bible. It never placed the value on her being canaanite, that's why I think it was more about her being a Gentile

Short Hand 07-31-2005 06:52 PM

Either way he was still being predjudice. I see both, but thats just me... it is all on how you interprept it really. We will have to agree to disagree really. I beleive when you read the bible you have to read between the lines and look for the loop holes. .. (this just means taking a good chunk of it as not exxact word for word).

Johnj 08-01-2005 04:24 AM

Or in other words you make stuff up to suit your purpose.

Short Hand 08-01-2005 06:08 AM

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Or in other words you make stuff up to suit your purpose.

Yaaaaaaa....... thats it old man. rolleyes: lol.

Pyro 08-01-2005 04:36 PM

Gays can get married in Canada...case settled...some countries move forward while others follow the past.

If it aint broke then don't fix it...well shit if this shit isn't broke...i don't what the fuck we consider broken...because our world is fucked and most of it is due to religious beliefs.

c312 08-01-2005 04:43 PM

I would argue the opposite

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 08-01-2005 07:31 PM

i wish i was a caananite

Coleman 08-01-2005 08:30 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":43f2d]i wish i was a caananite[/quote:43f2d]I wish I was Jesus!


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