guns are weapons ass. Planes were just used as weapons that day. Thats just like saying banning banana's because you got buttfucked by one repeatedly by your father when you were young....uhhh no!

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":fa2fc]your argument, if that even is one, makes no sense.[/quote:fa2fc]

Was commenting on what Arkan wrote.
[Commenting on this thread in general] Banning guns doesn't solve the problem or even help it by a little, that just persuades people to use bigger weapons that will take out even more people.

Sounds like someone had problems when they were a kid, perhaps I should inform the fuzz before you go shooting up a school with bananas. Besides, I didn't even suggest banning planes nor did the original author, I and him were just using it to get the point across that banning any certain weapon doesn't help the problem since there are many other potential weapons out there.

I love how people here quote out of context.

I've never seen someone so bad at creating a logical, persuasive argument. Never.

That's fucking retarded.

Theres a reason they're called "school SHOOTINGS" and why Cho referenced Dylan and Eric (Columbine killers) - This is basically another copycat. Remember all the postal worker killing sprees? They work like an epidemic. Im sorry but I cant think of any school bombings or chemical/bio attacks on any schools (Obviously there will be one or two). the point is there certainly isnt an epidemic of them.
People need to look at the VTECH massacre in the context of a larger issue which is the dramatic increase in school shootings in the last 20 years. Considering this, there is no doubt that part of the motivation for a kid to go shoot up his school, is knowing that it has been done before, several times, effectively.

Also, on a side-note:
You cant compare anything to a gun, they're the only thing delibritely MADE to kill effectively. Which is why there should be tighter regulations on who can own them, so people with mental disorders cannot get a hold of them.

Also, how the fuck did he get hollow-points? I thought they were illegal?

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its v-tec, ass!

Trip, hollow point bullets are legal here in the U.S. They're no more dangerous that a FMJ bullit IMO. I could be wrong here but i believe they banned the "Black Talons" after the Long Island Railroad shooting back in '93. Here's an Wikipedia definition

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Talon:be423]Black Talons[/url:be423]

To be honest, the 9mm is a marginal round to say the least. Headshots will always increase the chance of death no matter what caliber is used. I wonder how many of the 32 victims died with the 9mm round as opposed to the .22 round he used that day. Would it change things if we knew 90% of the victims died by being shot with the .22? From what i understand, most victims were shot multiple times and most suffered a headshot. At that, hollow points, FMJ, .22, or 9mm doesn't make all that much difference.

You're right about that - I just thought I remembered some rapper getting booked for having hollow points - but it could have been anywhere now that I think about it.

[quote:f8cdb]This is basically another copycat.[/quote:f8cdb]

I think copycat suggests he was doing it solely for that purpose. Thats not the case; the guy had some serious mental problems that pushed him to this point and Columbine no doubt gave him inspiration and "support" to carry out what his emotions were pushing him to do.

Either way this is a BAD thing to have happened, but BAD things happen all the time - just not all at once. Its just like this shit in your life. . .if you lose your girl, your job, your mother dies, and you get evicted in the year - you had a bad year. If it happens over like 5 years, its "ups and downs". This was just multiple bad things all rolled into one big cluterfucked tragedy.

[quote="TGB!":44f87][quote:44f87]This is basically another copycat.[/quote:44f87]

I think copycat suggests he was doing it solely for that purpose. Thats not the case; the guy had some serious mental problems that pushed him to this point and Columbine no doubt gave him inspiration and "support" to carry out what his emotions were pushing him to do.[/quote:44f87]

Yeah I wasn't very clear - that's what I meant though. I wouldn't say he just copied columbine just for the sake of it, I don't think any of the so-called "copycats" would have had that as their main motivation - I think, like you say, that it is inspiration for troubled, suicidal kids.

'Richard McBeef' has been brought to life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2nqtKhEFM8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a43P3ZxjLI

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":5c813]'Richard McBeef' has been brought to life.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2nqtKhEFM8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2nqtKhEFM8[/url]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a43P3ZxjLI[/quote:5c813]

Is that ridiculing Cho or just his play?

^ Then the nation wonders what motivates shooters.

We were making fun of McBeef the other day, and I said Eastbay is going to ban people being able to put McBeef on the customized jerseys for VT, much like the name "Mexico" was banned from being put on Atlanta Falcons jerseys (in reference to Michael Vick).

Maybe we'll see McDonald's come out with their new McBeef sandwich soon.