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BallisticWookie 12-21-2001 03:07 AM

Wait a second there FN2K, before you said you "used to be a Marine" ???

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Tyler Durden 12-21-2001 04:11 AM

The new dod beta coming up with infact have the M1-Carbine. As for the tommy gun at hardware stores for cheap, im not sure thats right. FOr awhile I thought that was true, but after reading more about it, Im not sure what to believe, because it cost $350 to make. In the vietnam war, they started out using the M14 (AWSOME WEAPON) but replaced it with the M16a1, so that much is true (right now the M16A2 is used for the army, but other forces use the M3 and M4)


The Thompson didn't have a 50 round drum that was used by gangsers, the TOMMY gun (almost same thing, but diff in many ways) did, and was used by the gangsers. Altho the thompson could use a drum clip, it was NEVER used, because it was so weird on it.

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BallisticWookie 12-21-2001 06:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tyler Durden:
The new dod beta coming up with infact have the M1-Carbine. As for the tommy gun at hardware stores for cheap, im not sure thats right. FOr awhile I thought that was true, but after reading more about it, Im not sure what to believe, because it cost $350 to make. In the vietnam war, they started out using the M14 (AWSOME WEAPON) but replaced it with the M16a1, so that much is true (right now the M16A2 is used for the army, but other forces use the M3 and M4)


The Thompson didn't have a 50 round drum that was used by gangsers, the TOMMY gun (almost same thing, but diff in many ways) did, and was used by the gangsers. Altho the thompson could use a drum clip, it was NEVER used, because it was so weird on it.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The Thompson didn't have a 50 round drum that was used by gangsers, the TOMMY gun (almost same thing, but diff in many ways) did, and was used by the gangsers. Altho the thompson could use a drum clip, it was NEVER used, because it was so weird on it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hahaha, no. 50 Round drum magazines WERE used, and in quite an abundance in the PTO. The version with the drum magazine had an extended barrel and a vertical foregrip. I've also seen some Thompsons with the drum magazine attached, obviously some modifications done to the weapon.

The M16A2 is used by not only the Army, but the Marine Corps, Navy, Airforce, Coast Guard and National Guard. There is also the COlt M4A1 which is mainly used by the more Elite Forces. The Canadians use an M16A2 Variant named the C7A1.

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Innoxx 12-21-2001 06:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FuBarGrn:
[quote:55bcf]Originally posted by Tyler Durden:
I love the M1-Carbine ! Because Paratroopers used it. IT was very light. But the thing that sucks, it that it had the stoping power of a .22....... Now for thoes of you who dont have any idea what a 22 is, well lets say I shoot you with a 22, and guess what.. If you were strong, you would stay up, and draw your gun and shoot me, and kill me. If you were weak, you may get knocked down a bit, but get up and shoot me, and kill me. The point of the matter is that no matter how big or small u are, you can always shoot me and kill me after I shoot you with a 22.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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well you are half right man.....the carbine didn't have that great of stopping power...BUT it did hold a lot of bullets,and if you shot someone 10 or so times with a 22....they'd go down....lol


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actually the m1 carbine has .30 cal bullets, not the regular ,30cals but one thatlooks like a big pistol round

Innoxx 12-21-2001 06:45 AM

man my rant got alot of feedback

FuBarGrn 12-21-2001 07:38 AM

yeah it did....you guys know your shit....I'd love to work in a military museum myself....great job huh BALLWOOK????

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FuBarGrn 12-21-2001 07:51 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tyler Durden:
I love the M1-Carbine ! Because Paratroopers used it. IT was very light. But the thing that sucks, it that it had the stoping power of a .22....... Now for thoes of you who dont have any idea what a 22 is, well lets say I shoot you with a 22, and guess what.. If you were strong, you would stay up, and draw your gun and shoot me, and kill me. If you were weak, you may get knocked down a bit, but get up and shoot me, and kill me. The point of the matter is that no matter how big or small u are, you can always shoot me and kill me after I shoot you with a 22.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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well you are half right man.....the carbine didn't have that great of stopping power...BUT it did hold a lot of bullets,and if you shot someone 10 or so times with a 22....they'd go down....lol


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FuBarGrn 12-21-2001 07:55 AM

geez thanks ballwook.....lol....I just forgot the designation of the m14...not its history...lol....well I still say we should have 50 rd drum mags for the Tommy.....PeacE!!!

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Mustang 12-21-2001 08:47 AM

Question: Was the M14 used in WWII at all?

Kraut Killer 12-21-2001 09:20 AM

On a side note, the Tommy Gun in the game, the M1, didn't have the fifty round drum, it wasn't fitted for adaptation of drum magazines, only box (heh, and everyone loves box) magazines. It was the M1923 that had drum magazines.

BallisticWookie 12-22-2001 06:32 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mustang:
Question: Was the M14 used in WWII at all?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif The M14 was introduced in May 1957. BUT, development of the M14 or it's earliest brother, the T20E2 began in 1944. Something like 100000 were made, but the war was so close to ending (the war in Europe had already ended) that sending them out to units was of no use.

The first ever M14 variant was designed with the M1 Garand body, just changing the mechanics inside and adding a magazine attachment. It fired something around 700 rounds per minute, but it weighed a heap.

Many changes were made up until 1957. They finally approved what we know as the M14 today. It was used widely as the standard rifle through the 1960's. The M21 or XM21 as it was known in the 60's was the accurised sniper version. A scope attached to the top and match grade ammuntion was used for greater accuracy.

In 1969 the M14 was almost widely replaced by M16A1 and sold off to countries with military aid programs. But you'll still see Spec Ops guys using this rifle because it is such a hard hitting and accurate weapon. SEAL Teams in Operation Desert Storm used it widely. It is also used by the Marine Corps for it's Snipers.

There ya go. Theres more history behind it, but I couldnt be bothered right now http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif I need sleep.

Yeah FubarGrn, it's great job http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif I enjoy it very much. But I;d much prefer to be in the Army, cant wait to join next year. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

Doom5 12-22-2001 06:44 AM

Once a Marine always a Marine.

n0_ph34r 12-22-2001 09:02 AM

i think they should have the m14 in the game! that would just be bitchin!

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FN2K 01-09-2002 03:56 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BallisticWookie:
Wait a second there FN2K, before you said you "used to be a Marine" ???
Posted by BallisticWookie<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Marine Corps isn't a club you can join or leave, its a brotherhood. Once you become a Marine you become part of a group and not even death changes that. Once a Marine ALWAYS a Marine.

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Hannover 01-09-2002 04:05 AM

Sure they did, though it was not standard Landser issue. I've got a friend with a German shotgun that was part of a Luftwaffe pilot's "ground survival kit." I'll have to track him down to get the markings off of it.

Hannover

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Innoxx:
germans didn't have a shotgun<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



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