*SIGH*

I'm going to ask you this. What would your solution be? My Arab friends say that while they are a little unnerved by what is happening, they agree that their needs to be better immigration control in terms of documentation and they can understand why detainment is necessary for those who are NOT CITIZENS who are not documented. The United States has gone out of it's way to protect the rights of all those residing within it's borders regardless of national origin. Now, because we try to enforce immigration laws which were ALWAYS on the books but not properly utilized, we're Nazi's? Come on!

I'll ask the question again, to anyone. WHAT WOULD YOUR SOLUTION BE?

I'm very aware of Nimoller's quote, but I don't feel it's applicable here.

That's not what I meant, and you know it damn well: why be selective ? Why
not ask ALL people, regardless of age, sex and race, to present themselves ?

There are thousands, maybe a hundred thousand illegal immigrants in the
US of A right now and for some reason, only taliban-looking, age specific
men are asked to present themselves at some random place to get jailed?
Sounds awefully Simpson-ish if you ask me.*

* Episode where Homer comes claim his item at the Springfield Police Dept.
only to be beaten up like other criminals... *


EDIT: I have no problem with them enforcing the immigration laws, but I
want them to come forward and say it: " We may or may not be enforcing
immigration laws; you might say we are and starting by the most troubleing
group..."

hake:

Solidus, relax. I didn't say anything that was meant to offend you. These are the cold, hard ugly facts.

1. First World Trade Center bombing perpetrated by several Arabs here on expired visas.

2. 9/11. Arabs here on expired visas. No documentation.

3. Arabs, undocumented, arrested since 9/11, living in the United States, conspiring with Alqaeda and other Terrorist groups. 30+


The zealotrous actions of a few have stigmatized the Arab people. God knows, that is a shame, because they are no different than anyone else, some of my best friends are of Arabic origin. What the U.S. government is saying is this. "OK, we have Arab nationals, who are NOT American citizens, who could be a potential threats to the national security. We have poor accountability for them and right now, they can be considered a potential threat, based upon what we have seen in the past 10 years."

This is what Al-Qaeda counted on. Go to the U.S. overstay your visa, they won't do anything. Something had to be done. The kind approach did not work, so now a little harshness is being implemented. We need to sit back and see what transpires. If anyone has a better solution I would be glad to hear it.

I got a better solution, stop blowing up other people's countries.

3. Arabs, undocumented, arrested since 9/11, living in the United States, conspiring with Alqaeda and other Terrorist groups. 30+

well holy shit! thar be 30 or more of them! gather up them 1,000 and maybe one of them might be one of the thirty we be lookin far.

funny america blamed canadian immagration for alot of terrorist but, it is infact US immagration that decided who enters your country, we only controll who comes in, not goes out thats your job.

Anyways im not gonna go in about my muslim, palastinian and iraqi sympathies because most of you have heard my "bullshit" before so I will simply say the following.

Amen brother Innoxx

and

how did people NOT see this coming after 9/11 hell tons of hate crimes were commited without charges being laid, of course the government would follow in its peoples racism. Everything is race now adays down there, screw the fact that white people know how to make bombs, if they're brown, then and only then are they a threat.

*SIGH* Innoxx, that's tritely simplisitc. Putting people in a proverbial box, is what we DON'T want to do.

but yet, america manages to do it at home and abroad (opressing palastinian people by supporting the isreali military power)

Try it, it might work, it's never been done before.

[quote="CSF_Jaizen":4ebd1]3. Arabs, undocumented, arrested since 9/11, living in the United States, conspiring with Alqaeda and other Terrorist groups. 30+

well holy shit! thar be 30 or more of them! gather up them 1,000 and maybe one of them might be one of the thirty we be lookin far.

funny america blamed canadian immagration for alot of terrorist but, it is infact US immagration that decided who enters your country, we only controll who comes in, not goes out thats your job.

Anyways im not gonna go in about my muslim, palastinian and iraqi sympathies because most of you have heard my "bullshit" before so I will simply say the following.

Amen brother Innoxx

and

how did people NOT see this coming after 9/11 hell tons of hate crimes were commited without charges being laid, of course the government would follow in its peoples racism. Everything is race now adays down there, screw the fact that white people know how to make bombs, if they're brown, then and only then are they a threat.[/quote:4ebd1]

Well, I'll let you in on a little secret, when you have a country as racially diverse as the U.S. you are going to have race problems, we are dealing with that and have come a long way. Other countries that are not so racially diverse would not understand. Do you think you are ging to have an influx of every race on Earth in one place and not have some discord. WAKE UP, idiot!

Innoxx yhou show your ignorance, do you know how much money in aid we give to the Middle East? Not Isreal, the Arabs. Tens of millions of dollars per year. Schools, hospitals, sanitation, mediation. Learn some facts before you open your mouth. hake:

[quote="The Counter-Sniper":887a1][quote="CSF_Jaizen":887a1]3. Arabs, undocumented, arrested since 9/11, living in the United States, conspiring with Alqaeda and other Terrorist groups. 30+

well holy shit! thar be 30 or more of them! gather up them 1,000 and maybe one of them might be one of the thirty we be lookin far.

funny america blamed canadian immagration for alot of terrorist but, it is infact US immagration that decided who enters your country, we only controll who comes in, not goes out thats your job.

Anyways im not gonna go in about my muslim, palastinian and iraqi sympathies because most of you have heard my "bullshit" before so I will simply say the following.

Amen brother Innoxx

and

how did people NOT see this coming after 9/11 hell tons of hate crimes were commited without charges being laid, of course the government would follow in its peoples racism. Everything is race now adays down there, screw the fact that white people know how to make bombs, if they're brown, then and only then are they a threat.[/quote:887a1]

Well, I'll let you in on a little secret, when you have a country as racially diverse as the U.S. you are going to have race problems, we are dealing with that and have come a long way. Other countries that are not so racially diverse would not understand. Do you think you are ging to have an influx of every race on Earth in one place and not have some discord. WAKE UP, idiot!

Innoxx yhou show your ignorance, do you know how much money in aid we give to the Middle East? Not Isreal, the Arabs. Tens of millions of dollars per year. Schools, hospitals, sanitation, mediation. Learn some facts before you open your mouth. hake:[/quote:887a1]

Well, it seems only fit to replace everything you blew the shit out of.

ROFL.

Indeed...

Some of us know the whole "war on terrorism" and soon to be "war on iraq"
thing is a scam... but hey, they have to "play the game", otherwise people
will get wise to their power game.

In any case, they should have been a little more consistent and asked
EVERYONE who doesn't have their papers to get jailed biggrin:

Just one final thing: are you so stupid as to believe that by asking the
illegal immigrants to come register, terrorists would show up ? Am I the
only enlightened one ?

mwah:

[quote="The Counter-Sniper":2c77a][quote="CSF_Jaizen":2c77a]3. Arabs, undocumented, arrested since 9/11, living in the United States, conspiring with Alqaeda and other Terrorist groups. 30+

well holy shit! thar be 30 or more of them! gather up them 1,000 and maybe one of them might be one of the thirty we be lookin far.

funny america blamed canadian immagration for alot of terrorist but, it is infact US immagration that decided who enters your country, we only controll who comes in, not goes out thats your job.

Anyways im not gonna go in about my muslim, palastinian and iraqi sympathies because most of you have heard my "bullshit" before so I will simply say the following.

Amen brother Innoxx

and

how did people NOT see this coming after 9/11 hell tons of hate crimes were commited without charges being laid, of course the government would follow in its peoples racism. Everything is race now adays down there, screw the fact that white people know how to make bombs, if they're brown, then and only then are they a threat.[/quote:2c77a]

Well, I'll let you in on a little secret, when you have a country as racially diverse as the U.S. you are going to have race problems, we are dealing with that and have come a long way. Other countries that are not so racially diverse would not understand. Do you think you are ging to have an influx of every race on Earth in one place and not have some discord. WAKE UP, idiot!

Innoxx yhou show your ignorance, do you know how much money in aid we give to the Middle East? Not Isreal, the Arabs. Tens of millions of dollars per year. Schools, hospitals, sanitation, mediation. Learn some facts before you open your mouth. hake:[/quote:2c77a]

uhm.. canada is actually more racially diverse than america. Proven fact. White people are a minority in most cities now. WAKE UP IDIOT. Learn about what your talking about.

And do you know how much MORE money you give to Isreal? America gives money only to friendly nations. All other money comes from charities not the government. IDIOT

Never said Canada wasn't. Did you see that in my post?

And, you need to check your facts, moron because the U.S. gives millions in aid to Arab countries. That is a fact. So. . .you know what? think what you like, you're going to, anyway. right?

Thats where they should be instead of walking around in public plotting more terrorist attacks.

hake: