Hopefully we can resolve this without war...

BAH, what the fuck am I talking about... war is inevitable with Iraq. I expect to see US troops raising the american flag over Bagdad before summer.

they raised the Kievan empire until Lithuanians eventually pushed them out

I don't think we HAVE 800 cruise missiles!

I read there was a severe shortage of Tomahawk types, not enough to fill the VLS cells on non-Aegis ships.

[quote="CSF_Jaizen":e75ed]considering they have 4th largest army in the world, id say they would have more than a chance. and since they are allied with china, THE largest army in the world.. if they got help from china it would be an easy task.[/quote:e75ed]

Are you referring to them blowing away america? Id doubt it, most likely the un would come to the rescue of america if theose type of odds were stacked against them. 2 countries vs virtually the rest of the world? I think not.

Yep Bull

[quote=Gerard]Are you referring to them blowing away america? Id doubt it, most likely the un would come to the rescue of america if theose type of odds were stacked against them. 2 countries vs virtually the rest of the world? I think not.[/quote:e9f04]

whats to say the UN would help america? the way things are going america is very quickly turning its back on the UN and more then enough countries already are lobbying against america.

If you had any brains CSF_Jaizen, you'd realise the UN's main force IS America.

if you had any brains you would see otherwise. Germany, France, Russia are all parts of the UN and are far from needing america.. And if you ever READ non-propaganda news papers you would see that the UN is very hesitant to war with iraq, while AMERICA will do anything to fight iraq.

Sung to the tune of "If you're happy and you know it"


If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.
If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq.

If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.
If we think that someone's dissed us, bomb Iraq.
So to hell with the inspections,
Let's look tough for the elections,
Close your mind and take directions,
Bomb Iraq.

It's pre-emptive non-aggression, bomb Iraq.
To prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq.
They've got weapons we can't see,
And that's all the proof we need,
If they're not there, they must be there,
Bomb Iraq.

If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.
If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.
If you think Saddam's gone mad,
With the weapons that he had,
And he tried to kill your dad,
Bomb Iraq.

If corporate fraud is growin', bomb Iraq.
If your ties to it are showin', bomb Iraq.
If your politics are sleazy,
And hiding that ain't easy,
And your manhood's getting queasy,
Bomb Iraq.

Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.
For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq.
Disagree? We'll call it treason,
Let's make war not love this season,
Even if we have no reason,
Bomb Iraq.

[quote="CSF_Jaizen":ab8e9]if you had any brains you would see otherwise. Germany, France, Russia are all parts of the UN and are far from needing america.. And if you ever READ non-propaganda news papers you would see that the UN is very hesitant to war with iraq, while AMERICA will do anything to fight iraq.

Sung to the tune of "If you're happy and you know it"


If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.
If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq.

If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.
If we think that someone's dissed us, bomb Iraq.
So to hell with the inspections,
Let's look tough for the elections,
Close your mind and take directions,
Bomb Iraq.

It's pre-emptive non-aggression, bomb Iraq.
To prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq.
They've got weapons we can't see,
And that's all the proof we need,
If they're not there, they must be there,
Bomb Iraq.

If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.
If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.
If you think Saddam's gone mad,
With the weapons that he had,
And he tried to kill your dad,
Bomb Iraq.

If corporate fraud is growin', bomb Iraq.
If your ties to it are showin', bomb Iraq.
If your politics are sleazy,
And hiding that ain't easy,
And your manhood's getting queasy,
Bomb Iraq.

Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.
For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq.
Disagree? We'll call it treason,
Let's make war not love this season,
Even if we have no reason,
Bomb Iraq.[/quote:ab8e9]

Damnit, not more of this Canada VS. America bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad:

Read what I said in the "Say Thanks" thread!

Yeah, whatever "CSF_Jaizen"... keep telling yourself that hake:

redhawk you are one very retarded mainlander arent you? where in the blue fuck do i mention canada? what a canadian says something not PRO american so then its canada vs america? fuck you. If i was russian you wouldnt say "no more of this russia vs usa crap" or if i were american you wouldnt say "no more of this usa vs usa crap!"

Not all Americans support attacking Iraq, besides the people on this forum, I have only one person that I work with think it was the thing to do. Of course, this person also thought that the highjackers on 9/11 came from Iraq. More and more Americans are question Bush's motive for this war. It's no longer about weopons of mass destruction, but Bush personal vendetta.
Of course by keeping our eyes he can screw the environment(profit today, pay tomorrow) run up the deficit(cut taxes for the rich, cut social programs for the poor, dump more money into defens) take away our freedoms(homeland defense). Of course we all know that a small country in the middleeast is a major threat to America. If we do attack Iraq, we better shut down our boarders completly, because all we are going to accomplish is fuelling the hate of more people. And justify the hatemongers that say that the US is a Satanic Imperlistic State. In the end we will lose more than we can gain. But it's some think it's worthi it, kill Saddam and all of our problems will go away. There are better answers, but unfortantly our President can't get past his ego to see them, he is becoming more and more like the man he hates.

[quote="Low spark":10912]More and more Americans are question Bush's motive for this war. It's no longer about weopons of mass destruction, but Bush personal vendetta.
.[/quote:10912]

i dont think so, this whole iraq thing is about OIL and thats it

It does help that Bush is an oil man. But thats not the reason anymore. He has gone over the edge, I don't think he is in touch with reality. He is'nt acting like a leader of the most powerful country in the world, he's acting like a bully in a school yard that thinks some kid hid his lunch money from him.

Of course he is probably not out of touch with reality. I'm sure Cheney and the oil companies make sure he is fed their version of reality.

[quote="Old Reliable":cd842]they raised the Kievan empire until Lithuanians eventually pushed them out[/quote:cd842]

Yup, and also the Novogrods. BUT who knows if Kublai Khan or Genghis Khan or whoever the fuck ruled the Golden Horde didnt die from overdrinking?!!!
The mogols would be camped outside Rome, Paris and even perhaps London but the death of the ruler is the most awkward moment in History.
The mongols finally declined by assimilating into the culture of the people they conquered, ironically.

Theres a saying "The pen is stronger than the sword."

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