I do more reading than I do posting on here. Simply because I look
for good topics to discuss. May I say that all of you have good points.

CHEATING IS A COWARD WAY OF WINNING. If people have to walk or
see thru walls, invisible, or whatever. Just to win or be impressing. They
need to go back and play MINE,SOLITARE, or pakman.

One cheat I seen recently, not sure what it was. THE HUNT, Axis player
was underground, his head was just barely above heading toward where
the Allies start. He came up the road, between my legs. It was funny,
but spookey. Couldnt kill it... I SAID IT!..

Guys, really enjoyed ya discussion. Way it should be!
Thanks

Slain, it is evident that some people don't really read things through properly.

Gerard. No offense man, your irish so were countrymen, but if they are runnin their mouths, and you have to use cham skins to beat them, then maybe they have a reason to run their mouths. I know, it pisses me off too when some1 is better than me and talks smack, but I dont try to beat them at that point, I let them show how immature they really are instead of stooping to their low. If you want a good server to play on guys, with a clan that is respected for our good attitude (mostly neways, lol) and we DO NOT talk smack!, go here

66.151.108.106

Doomsday2002, you said that "Lets not lose sight of the fact that its cheats that ruin this game..."

How about cheats, or rather cheat developers, actually helps the game? Think about that for a moment and if you need me to elaborate more please let me know.

I think cheating is definitely the cowards way out, and I do not think what was said is justfication for cheating. I can honestly say I do not, nor will i ever cheat at an online game. I feel it takes the fun out of it. Sure, I would consider myself a decent player. But I only go in to have fun, I'm not always looking to win. And when I'm winning I do not start talking down to other players. I have been playing games online for many years, I remember what is was like to get killed constantly. But through pratice, I eventually bettered my self to the point where I can go in and start my very own killing spree. And when I do die, I give many compliments, especially after a long firefight.
If you think you are having a hard time playing MOHAA, I suggest you never even look at UT2K3. You will find the players on those servers are FAR more advanced than any one on MOHAA.

AlliedGirl, this is what is known as landsharking. there is a patch out out there to stop this annoyance on any respectable server. if you see it done again, call that person out and (highly unlikely) hte admin will take caae of it.

SmB?Killtor, as the title of this thread suggests this is a story and hopefully for general enjoyment (or not), but you and Gerard have touched on a good point there, though Gerard explained it more thoroughly. "Fun" is the keyword. It is not life or death. You don't get a diploma either, so training hard on something that is neither life nor death, with no graduation at the end (for many people), is not really that fun.

And if it's not fun should it be called a game at all? Should EA Games rethink their packaging to include "The Essential: Second to a woman giving birth and a man popping cherry".

Ok /-/ighPriest. My gripe is not with the story. My gripe is with Gerard saying it is ok to use cheats just to get back at someone who can kill you faster than you can kill them. I have been in many servers where I have been blown away by other players, but I dont cheat to get back at them. I just get better. I have been called a cheater as well, which I take as a compliment. I have seen many players in my time cheating, and I just don't understand how you can have fun playing all the time knowing you can'be seen, killed, or have super accuracy.

It's a game, no more no less. Why would you take the fun out of playing by cheating?

Gerard.. as I was reading this forum something struck me...

WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MESSAGE SAY ON YOUR SIG? please tell me!

[quote="¿SmB?Killtor":d0974]Ok /-/ighPriest. My gripe is not with the story. My gripe is with Gerard saying it is ok to use cheats just to get back at someone who can kill you faster than you can kill them. I have been in many servers where I have been blown away by other players, but I dont cheat to get back at them. I just get better. I have been called a cheater as well, which I take as a compliment. I have seen many players in my time cheating, and I just don't understand how you can have fun playing all the time knowing you can'be seen, killed, or have super accuracy.[/quote:d0974]

Im mainly referring to groups of clan members coming in and basically trying to take over the server. I don't need to cheat i can hang with some good players in terms of score but its when they start trash talking to everyone on the server thats what pisses me off. Its this type of shit that puts newer players off playing some online games as their respected communities get a bad name.

The counterstrike suffers from this with all the frag whores, the moh community is going the same way, cause some jack off has some little tag in his name hes automatically better than everyone? Bollocks to that.

Just watch it and see :)

[quote="/-/ighPriest":4493e]Doomsday2002, you said that "Lets not lose sight of the fact that its cheats that ruin this game..."

How about cheats, or rather cheat developers, actually helps the game? Think about that for a moment and if you need me to elaborate more please let me know.[/quote:4493e]

I take your point and agree to some extent.
I think ive covered what i wanted to say in the other posts i made but will state once again, not all clans are full of mouthy people, not all clans should be tarred with the same brush and most importantly anyone, clan or clanless can go on whatever public server they wish to.
When i get a decent score i get accused of all kinds of cheats, i now take this as a compliment.
Yes we all play the GAME for fun but hey.......we all like to do well, like someone else said i used to get slaughtered when i started playing and thought the only course of action is to get better in this game i love.
Going back to the point you made, i know that the cheats of this community have put something back...ie: probably helped point out the glitches in the game and so on so there can be fixes for it, but to me why the hell would i want to piss about trying to do something with a ladder to get under the map oOo: i mean who the hell would know about these glitches if it wernt for people with the sole intent to try to exploit it.

dooms.

Dumb story, very pointless, kind of annoying. Not relevent. etc etc etc.

I feel dumber for reading this thread.

Title should read - Worst excuses ever for cheating or Double standards: defined.

Gerard, as I was reading what you had wrote, I felt like throwing myself off a buidling (relate to your SIG)