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intrestedviewer 03-19-2003 09:57 PM

You guys think the news is giving too much info? Its all disinformation. The news has changed their story on what has happened like 5 times. They made it look like war would be on friday but today BAM. It starts. Its all planed.

Low spark 03-19-2003 10:07 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":eb4eb]being just a civi watching this, its amazing. but would you want to be attacking baghdad?[/quote:eb4eb]

Get real, Baghdad is in ruins already, the Iraqi army is a shell of former self. We will bomb them into submission. We will march into bahgdad, and give candy bars and water to the people that we have denied such luxuries to for twelve years and they will say "Hail the counqueriong heros"
Then the real fun will start. Terrorist will strike, Bush will wrongfully connect them to suddam. Al Queda will use our aggression as a recruitting tool, and thier ranks will swell. They Puppet government installed into Iraq will only survive with the use of force The Kurds will stage an uprising causing the Turks to move into northern Iraq. Israel, will continue to undermind any antempt to form a Palastine State, Causing even a greater rift between the Muslim world and the US,

But the good news. Some of Dick Cheney's closest freinds are going to make some very big short term profits off of our taxes and the Iraqis blood. Maybe we should give the a tax cut.

intrestedviewer 03-19-2003 10:15 PM

They say the attack hit a bunker where Saddam was last seen. You think hes still alive? evil:

Old Reliable 03-19-2003 10:23 PM

i think saddam is takin a shit right now and wiping his ass with a picture of george bush while holding some iraqi beer

Milla 03-19-2003 10:25 PM

Right now saddam is runnig around his palace screaming "Where did i place those god damn plane tickets?!" - Quote by gerard biggrin:

11 Bravo 03-19-2003 10:46 PM

Saddam is fucked.....PERIOD. biggrin: biggrin: biggrin:

Recycled Spooge 03-19-2003 11:43 PM

Warmonger Explains War
With Iraq To Peacenik
Author Unknown
3-18-3

Peacenik: Why did you say we are invading Iraq?

Warmonger: We are invading Iraq because it is in violation of security council resolution 1441. A country cannot be allowed to violate security council resolutions.

PN: But I thought many of our allies, including Israel, were in violation of more security council resolutions than Iraq.

WM: It's not just about UN resolutions. The main point is that Iraq could have weapons of mass destruction, and the first sign of a smoking gun could well be a mushroom cloud over NY.

PN: Mushroom cloud? But I thought the weapons inspectors said Iraq had no nuclear weapons.

WM: Yes, but biological and chemical weapons are the issue.

PN: But I thought Iraq did not have any long range missiles for attacking us or our allies with such weapons.

WM: The risk is not Iraq directly attacking us, but rather terrorists networks that Iraq could sell the weapons to.

PN: But couldn't virtually any country sell chemical or biological materials? We sold quite a bit to Iraq in the eighties ourselves, didn't we?

WM: That's ancient history. Look, Saddam Hussein is an evil man that has an undeniable track record of repressing his own people since the early eighties. He gasses his enemies. Everyone agrees that he is a power-hungry lunatic murderer.

PN: We sold chemical and biological materials to a power-hungry lunatic murderer?

WM: The issue is not what we sold, but rather what Saddam did. He is the one that launched a pre-emptive first strike on Kuwait.

PN: A pre-emptive first strike does sound bad. But didn't our ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, know about and green-light the invasion of Kuwait?

WM: Let's deal with the present, shall we? As of today, Iraq could sell its biological and chemical weapons to Al Qaida. Osama BinLaden himself released an audio tape calling on Iraqis to suicide attack us, proving a partnership between the two.

PN: Osama Bin Laden? Wasn't the point of invading Afghanistan to kill him?

WM: Actually, it's not 100% certain that it's really Osama Bin Laden on the tapes. But the lesson from the tape is the same: there could easily be a partnership between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein unless we act.

PN: Is this the same audio tape where Osama Bin Laden labels Saddam a secular infidel?

WM: You're missing the point by just focusing on the tape. Powell presented a strong case against Iraq.

PN: He did?

WM: Yes, he showed satellite pictures of an Al Qaeda poison factory in Iraq.

PN: But didn't that turn out to be a harmless shack in the part of Iraq controlled by the Kurdish opposition?

WM: And a British intelligence report...

PN: Didn't that turn out to be copied from an out-of-date graduate student paper?

WM: And reports of mobile weapons labs...

PN: Weren't those just artistic renderings?

WM: And reports of Iraqis scuttling and hiding evidence from inspectors...

PN: Wasn't that evidence contradicted by the chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix?

WM: Yes, but there is plenty of other hard evidence that cannot be revealed because it would compromise our security.

PN: So there is no publicly available evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

WM: The inspectors are not detectives, it's not their JOB to find evidence. You're missing the point.

PN: So what is the point?

WM: The main point is that we are invading Iraq because resolution 1441 threatened "severe consequences." If we do not act, the security council will become an irrelevant debating society.

PN: So the main point is to uphold the rulings of the security council?

WM: Absolutely. ... unless it rules against us.

PN: And what if it does rule against us?

WM: In that case, we must lead a coalition of the willing to invade Iraq.

PN: Coalition of the willing? Who's that?

WM: Britain, Turkey, Bulgaria, Spain, and Italy, for starters.

PN: I thought Turkey refused to help us unless we gave them tens of billions of dollars.

WM: Nevertheless, they may now be willing.

PN: I thought public opinion in all those countries was against war.

WM: Current public opinion is irrelevant. The majority expresses its will by electing leaders to make decisions.

PN: So it's the decisions of leaders elected by the majority that is important?

WM: Yes.

PN: But George B-

WM: I mean, we must support the decisions of our leaders, however they were elected, because they are acting in our best interest. This is about being a patriot. That's the bottom line.

PN: So if we do not support the decisions of the president, we are not patriotic?

WM: I never said that.

PN: So what are you saying? Why are we invading Iraq?

WM: As I said, because there is a chance that they have weapons of mass destruction that threaten us and our allies.

PN: But the inspectors have not been able to find any such weapons.

WM: Iraq is obviously hiding them.

PN: You know this? How?

WM: Because we know they had the weapons ten years ago, and they are still unaccounted for.

PN: The weapons we sold them, you mean?

WM: Precisely.

PN: But I thought those biological and chemical weapons would degrade to an unusable state over ten years.

WM: But there is a chance that some have not degraded.

PN: So as long as there is even a small chance that such weapons exist, we must invade?

WM: Exactly.

PN: But North Korea actually has large amounts of usable chemical, biological, AND nuclear weapons, AND long range missiles that can reach the west coast AND it has expelled nuclear weapons inspectors, AND threatened to turn America into a sea of fire.

WM: That's a diplomatic issue.

PN: So why are we invading Iraq instead of using diplomacy?

WM: Aren't you listening? We are invading Iraq because we cannot allow the inspections to drag on indefinitely. Iraq has been delaying, deceiving, and denying for over ten years, and inspections cost us tens of millions.

PN: But I thought war would cost us tens of billions.

WM: Yes, but this is not about money. This is about security.

PN: But wouldn't a pre-emptive war against Iraq ignite radical Muslim sentiments against us, and decrease our security?

WM: Possibly, but we must not allow the terrorists to change the way we live. Once we do that, the terrorists have already won.

PN: So what is the purpose of the Department of Homeland Security, color-coded terror alerts, and the Patriot Act? Don't these change the way we live?

WM: I thought you had questions about Iraq.

PN: I do. Why are we invading Iraq?

WM: For the last time, we are invading Iraq because the world has called on Saddam Hussein to disarm, and he has failed to do so. He must now face the consequences.

PN: So, likewise, if the world called on us to do something, such as find a peaceful solution, we would have an obligation to listen?

WM: By "world", I meant the United Nations.

PN: So, we have an obligation to listen to the United Nations?

WM: By "United Nations" I meant the Security Council.

PN: So, we have an obligation to listen to the Security Council?

WM: I meant the majority of the Security Council.

PN: So, we have an obligation to listen to the majority of the Security Council?

WM: Well... there could be an unreasonable veto.

PN: In which case?

WM: In which case, we have an obligation to ignore the veto.

PN: And if the majority of the Security Council does not support us at all?

WM: Then we have an obligation to ignore the Security Council.

PN: That makes no sense:

WM: If you love Iraq so much, you should move there. Or maybe France, with the all the other cheese-eating surrender monkeys. It's time to boycott their wine and cheese, no doubt about that.

PN: I give up.

Old Reliable 03-19-2003 11:49 PM

so who thinks this is really saddam?

Low spark 03-19-2003 11:49 PM

Bravo! Spooge.

See you in Paris.

intrestedviewer 03-19-2003 11:58 PM

He made no direct comment on what has happened, it was very vague. Hmm maybe it was taped before time? happy:

Recycled Spooge 03-20-2003 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intrestedviewer
He made no direct comment on what has happened, it was very vague. Hmm maybe it was taped before time? happy:

He said the date of the attack.

Old Reliable 03-20-2003 12:04 AM

i wish I could watch Iraqi tv.........

03-20-2003 04:12 AM

So when do you think the next plane will crash into a skyscraper? eek:

SoLiDUS 03-20-2003 04:32 AM

LOL! Nice post Spooge!

Where did you find this ?

Miscguy 03-20-2003 05:02 AM

Wow, all that PN, WM, bullshit could have been typed by anyone. The points made are assinine and obviosly distorted for the anti war purpose. Shit i misewell just come out and say its fucking fake.

You want to post crap like that and hail it as the new anti war bible be my guest. I could just as easily post some pro war bullshit of the same nature. Instead i'll post a link to recording of some PN getting her ass handed to her by an Iraqi.

[url:c606c]http://komo1000news.com/audio/kvi_aircheck_031003.mp3[/url:c606c]

Isnt it amazing how both sides can post utter bullshit about the other and expect to be taken seriously.

So when do you think the next plane will crash into a skyscraper?

As for that quote. You can live in fear if you want. Dont want to step on anyones toes for fear they may stomp back, then fine. Live in fear, me i'll live my life like i always have.

When will America re-grow the nuts it once had? Im tired of hearing all the pussy flap around this country. My kids cant watch rated R movies because they'll shoot up there school. Video games cause violence. For fuck sake stop your god damn bitching and raise your kids yourself rather than censoring the world so you can do as little as possible.

Great now im on the fucking US pussy tangent. Damnit.


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