the majority of germans were not brainwashed, but they just sat back and did nothing.

To say that the average numbers of German soldiers were not nazi’s is as wrong as say that everybody was. Why is that? Simply because we don’t know. What we know is that Hitler was elected in a democratic election. That means the majority of the German citizens, including German soldiers, wanted him as their leader. Therefore the major part of the Germans (in that period) are responsible for the terror the European people experienced.

It’s correct that both sides committed war crimes, and that it is unacceptable.
However it seems like people outside Europe think of the war in a manner of great battlefields, heroes, glory, honor, and the fate of Jews.

I want to remind you about the fact that the people in Europe suffered terribly during the occupation. The condition in Poland was indescribable, and the condition in France, Czechoslovakia, Holland and Norway was not so much better. There are to many stories were the German soldiers behavior exceeded their duty.

Kids were shot as spies. They just wanted to see the German airplanes.
A lot of students were shot. For no reasons. It’s just a nice policy to prevent riots.
Union leaders were shot, because the employees didn’t work hard enough.
Kids were shot, when their parents (unarmed) tried to escape to Britain.
Have you ever heard about “Operation Freshman”? It’s about two British gliders, which crashed in Norway. All the soldiers who survived where executed. One soldier was paralyzed from the hip and down. He couldn’t stand by him self so they shot him lying on the ground.

The moral is. Hollywood is rarely historical correct. “The after war German generations” are not responsible for what happened, and don’t be to naive.

I'm gonna call em Nazis and I don't give a damn.

Whether or not they knew it, all German soldiers fought under the command of fucked up people who tried to exterminate an entire race of people and attempted world domination. Had they been given the chance, they would have NUKED the U.S. without thinking twice about it.

Any German soldier who fought for them was only helping them get closer and closer to accomplishing their diabolical schemes, therefore I refer to all of these Krauts as Nazis, regardless of whether or not they actually were sticking Jews into ovens.

Either way, they prolonged this process for as long as they could, thus making them supporters of Nazis, whether it was directly or indirectly.

You'll have to forgive me if I don't naively ignore every single statement I hear about "not all German soldier being Nazis." And if you don't, then deal with it...the same way I deal with the fact that my great grandparents were cremated alive.

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about 65 million ppl died in that war. way to go germans... http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

Germans are a proud, militaristic people. They didn't like the fact that they lost world war one, and promised to reverse those wrongs. Not so different from september 11th, in that we were wronged and we demanded justice. Just like the German people demanded it, except they didn't realize what they were getting themselves into. However, consider this: The average dogface/grunt fighting the German army in World war 2 wouldn't care if the Germans he was fighting were ts or democrats: they were fearfully effective fighters who killed off the grunt's buddies.

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"People may consider wehrmacht nazis because they had swastkas on their uniforms. Look at it this way; the swastka is the symbol of the nazis, therefore if you wear the symbol, you're a nazi. I personally don't believe that, but many people do."


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I have 2 things to say:

Hitler gained power by cheating himself to the 'throne'. It was everything but a fair election. Also,

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Freakaloin:
Germans were a bunch of morons for following a meglomaniac like hitler. i say call em all nazi's. it's so pathetic that the silent majority in germany sit back and let hitler do what he did to the world.

duty to their country...puhlease...

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This is too funny. Mr Freakaloin, just picture you're arrogant self in Germany after Hitler gained power. What would have happened if you went on the street and said stuff against Hitler? You would have been shot. I'm not saying that I know a lot about History, but I know for sure that you don't know what you're saying.

It was not a majority of the Germans that elected the Nazi-party. It was only 30%. Hitler took the power after the Reichstag-building was burned down. He prohibited the other parties because the country had to form a unity against the communistic terrorists.

And the Germans were brainwashed. It's hard to imagine, but if you live in an environment where the same message is repeated over and over again with no critics, you simply start to believe it. People didn't thought about it.
Plus, if you didn't joined the Army, you were considered a traitor and shot. So what had they to do? They were told to fight for their country and the German culture (ideology of the Nazis: based on nationalism and racism.)
And please, every war is dirty, none of the sides are always completely innocent. It's a part of "the art of war" http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif
That was the ideology of the Nazis: nationalism and racism.

A swastika is in fact a very old german sign (similar to runes). It was a symbol of the german history, misused by the nazi party.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Freakaloin:
about 65 million ppl died in that war. Way to go Germans <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh...sure. From those 65 million, more than half werre killed by Americans, Soviets or Japanese.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Manny:
Oh...sure. From those 65 million, more than half werre killed by Americans, Soviets or Japanese. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Who started the war?


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i am actually disgusted how little history some of you know!!!!

"If you want to blame anyone... blame the Frogs and the British. Because really, if it weren't for them shiting on the Krauts in the Treaty of Versailles"

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actuall if it wasnt for president woodro wilson ( yes an american) dreming up great ideas for the new germany, going all the way to versailles and then speak aload of crap, it was mainly he who shitted on germany. And yes the brits and the french were a bit harsh and of course they could see 25 years into the future knowing that a corporal in the german army would become leader of germany and take over europe and bring the world into war. tell me were was the main part of the great war thought.... texas, miami,pittsburgh... no in northern france... that part of the country was devastated so i think they had the right to be slightly p o'd.

sorry about that but i dont think that america is allways as great as so many say!!!

haha after reading the thread name I knew this was going to be a war of words. Im sure what im about to say has been said, but just in case it hasn't :

You're right, not ALL german soldiers were nazis. But the fact of the matter is, a lot of germans and german soldiers during the late 30's and 40's, were nazis. And believed in what they were doing was right. Not all, but some.

If you look at the SS, you would see nazis. Because they were nazis.

Freakaloin, btw you are stupid, now if you did not accept being drafted into the war as an american/canadian/british/french or what not you'd be arrsted, at least in the USA for sure, now if you did not follow hitler you would be shot, and as would you're familiy, you're kids, you're wife, everyone close to, so you might as well pack you're bags and go to war and take the chance of figting and being able to come back home, got it? Good! Thats why there were good germans and bad germans the nazi's followed hitler all the way and made sure the rest of the germans fell in to.. Hitler was no dummy, a retard yes for what he did but one hell of an intelligent retard.

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none would have die if the japs and the germans wouldn't have invaded and attacks countries. puhlease <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Manny:
Oh...sure. From those 65 million, more than half werre killed by Americans, Soviets or Japanese. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol dumbass <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by spiewalk:
Freakaloin, btw you are stupid, now if you did not accept being drafted into the war as an american/canadian/british/french or what not you'd be arrsted, at least in the USA for sure, now if you did not follow hitler you would be shot, and as would you're familiy, you're kids, you're wife, everyone close to, so you might as well pack you're bags and go to war and take the chance of figting and being able to come back home, got it? Good! Thats why there were good germans and bad germans the nazi's followed hitler all the way and made sure the rest of the germans fell in to.. Hitler was no dummy, a retard yes for what he did but one hell of an intelligent retard.

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