I made my own card out of some copper wire, a spoon, and some tea leaves. It is a 589.03 MB card, makes everything look so so awesome.

my video production teacher hated that card. It interfeared with the capture card he had installed so he had the school buy a Georce FX or a GF41billion(exagerating)
Hes installign the 9800 into a lesser computer.

i have a 9800pro, and it owns. Nvidia's FX series sux asshole. Get an ATI. http://www.newegg.com gg me

my 9800 pro goes in Saturday!!! newegg ROCKS!!!! They delivered my new comp in 3 days and 1 more day til its up and running!

nvidia seems to have most of the fx series bugs ironed out. In many of the new games today and any dx8.0 game, they out perform the ATI cards. But the price tag is very hefty and ATI still provides more bang for your buck on the top of the line cards. The fx5700ultra, is a great mid grade value card that has been refined to get rid of the noise issues it had and for the money it is better than the 9600xt.

But all of this is minor. If you can hold out, the next gen cards arent too far away and all of these will be cheap soon.

I will look for a link to articles on the new cards. They are saying the jump in performance this time will be significant. Kind of like when the ti4600 and the 9700pro came out.

for 1...ati is better than invdia. for 2, anyone looking for a new card dont buy now!! ati is releasing a new series of cards sometime up until summer. they said they will release them in the first 6 months of 2004. so dont waste your money on things that will be obsolete

Best bet is too wait till this new thing comes out then buy the 1st or 2nd generation before it...save tons of cash and no games really out there can push them.

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":22cc3]I made my own card out of some copper wire, a spoon, and some tea leaves. It is a 589.03 MB card, makes everything look so so awesome.[/quote:22cc3]

Tea leaves? You b00n. Everyone knows bay leaves run a lot cooler and can give you an extra 150FPS.

[quote:291af]Tea leaves? You b00n. Everyone knows bay leaves run a lot cooler and can give you an extra 150FPS.Tea leaves? You b00n. Everyone knows bay leaves run a lot cooler and can give you an extra 150FPS.[/quote:291af]

Thanks man for the info, I will make a new one, and I will tell you all about it!

I cant see a 9800pro a waste of money. No matter what computer parts you buy they will be obsolete in the near future.

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":f1eea]I made my own card out of some copper wire, a spoon, and some tea leaves. It is a 589.03 MB card, makes everything look so so awesome.[/quote:f1eea]

I guess you are the Macgyver of the computer world ed:

[quote=Hogman74]I guess you are the Macgyver of the computer world ed:[/quote:cefb6]

Macgyver pwntz happy:

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":b626c]I cant see a 9800pro a waste of money. No matter what computer parts you buy they will be obsolete in the near future.[/quote:b626c]

i have a 9800 pro...it wasnt a waste of money a year ago when i bought it in june...but now since their new products are coming out its not worth to buy the 9800 if you have the money

Radeon all the way..
But dont get the original ATI shit, get a Sapphire instead..