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Eames 03-03-2004 09:57 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":353fe]I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.[/quote:353fe]

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.

Pyro 03-03-2004 09:59 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":4aaa1][quote="Sgt Stryker":4aaa1]I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.[/quote:4aaa1]

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.[/quote:4aaa1]

religion is the real root of all evil.

Azazel. 03-03-2004 10:02 PM

In my opinion , it's about Freedom.

A communist government does not allow for indivuism and basic freedom.


As a supporter of freedom , I understand why people would " Hate " communism.

SoLiDUS 03-04-2004 04:43 AM

“FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY, TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEED.”

Close enough... let's re-arrange it a bit:

“FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY, TO EACH REGARDLESS OF HIS NEED."

The productivity falls on the same few's shoulders and they have to give
away the fruits of their labor ? No.

mwah:

Sgt>Stackem 03-04-2004 08:09 AM

perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work

Zoner 03-04-2004 08:12 AM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":57b6d]perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work[/quote:57b6d]

Exactly. On paper, it's great. In practice, it licks ass.

pest 03-04-2004 08:47 AM

True communism has never been implemented on a national scale.

Every attemp has degraded into a socialist dictatorship at best.

Plato's Republic had it best, IMO. The leaders have no possessions. They live communally and their needs (and little more) are provided by the state. Their only luxury is the ability to rule. Remove the ability to gain financially from the rulers and their decisions are less clouded.

Tystnad 03-04-2004 08:49 AM

[quote=Eames]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":c1df3
I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.[/quote:c1df3]

Did you ever pay any attention at all in school?
If you did, you wouldve known the cornerstones of communsim by now.
The revolution is just one form that the communism might take to reach it goals. Notice that 'one way'? eek:

Colonel 03-04-2004 10:27 AM

[quote=Zoner]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":3dcee
perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work

Exactly. On paper, it's great. In practice, it licks ass.[/quote:3dcee]

I disagree. It licks ass on paper, in practice, and as an idea.

Duke_of_Ray 03-04-2004 10:29 AM

When you do not have freedom, it will not work.

bukdez 03-04-2004 10:40 AM

[quote=Pyro][quote="Cpl. Eames":f220b]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":f220b
I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.[/quote:f220b]

religion is the real root of all evil.[/quote:f220b]

amen...

Zoner 03-04-2004 10:49 AM

[quote=Colonel]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":782de
perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work

Exactly. On paper, it's great. In practice, it licks ass.

I disagree. It licks ass on paper, in practice, and as an idea.[/quote:782de]

Point taken. biggrin:

Drew 03-04-2004 11:14 AM

[quote=Tystnad]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eames
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":f8171
I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.

Did you ever pay any attention at all in school?
If you did, you wouldve known the cornerstones of communsim by now.
The revolution is just one form that the communism might take to reach it goals. Notice that 'one way'? eek:[/quote:f8171]

God knows that I don't want to defend Eames, but I just have to correct this statement.

According to Marx, the only way to achieve "true" communism is through revolution of the lower classes.

Tystnad 03-04-2004 11:24 AM

[quote=Noctis]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tystnad
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eames
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":87d3a
I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.

Did you ever pay any attention at all in school?
If you did, you wouldve known the cornerstones of communsim by now.
The revolution is just one form that the communism might take to reach it goals. Notice that 'one way'? eek:

God knows that I don't want to defend Eames, but I just have to correct this statement.

According to Marx, the only way to achieve "true" communism is through revolution of the lower classes.[/quote:87d3a]

Which is not to be taken litterarly. What he is saying is that the lower classes should not longer be lower classes, but the walls between the classes shall be removed, and a society of equality will form in time..

Pyro 03-04-2004 11:26 AM

fuck america got demorcracy through revolution...everything needs a fucking revolution.


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