[quote="Pick Axe":5ed76]WTF?? I'd love to hear you explain that one. What "cause" would that be. Please enlighten me.[/quote:5ed76]
My point is they arent even old enough to drink legally, but bush can legally send them to die for his interests.

Ok, I see what your saying. Obscure, though...

I think the drinking age ought to be 18..

But, its not just Bush's plan to go to Iraq. Congress approved the funding, don't forget that. And there were all those other countries (the cololition) that supported us, and some still do. It's not like bush just woke up, said " Lets invade Iraq today!" And it happened. Our president doesn't have that much athority.

I forget, Pick Axe. Whats the UN's stance on this war?

watch ferenheit 9/11 they are countless. if you haven't seen it then stfu,.

-Bush's tax cuts were set up to tax the top earners at a lower level than that of its lowest income earners. IE Tax cuts that benefit the rich. I dont know why he did this, Bush and Reagan proved that this doesnt worked and when Clinton reversed it, it proved again that it was the wrong way to go. Another part of this administration is that it refuses to learn on the experience of its precedessors. Clinton reversed it and got a budget surplus, Bush reversed that and now we have a huge defecit. 9/11 and the war in iraq are NOT the reason why we have a defecit.

-Education is a state thing, but the feds are supposed to play an active role in education. Ie, No Child Left Behind. Thats bs, the rating system is set up so that even the best schools in the country barely pass the test, making most schools receive low marks. Low marks are not incentives for parents to send their kids to school there, so they end up sending them across town to other schools. Also, the transfer part of NCLB needs work because it doesnt actually let students transfer out of the area to better schools. .Feds cut federal education funding so that if you apply for financial aide or fill out the FAFSA form, you will have a much smaller chance receiving aide. Underfunding also meant that colleges that receive fed aide had to raise their tuition by 61%* (*schools in my area in fact). Finally, underfunding also means that schools cant afford to hire additional staff and supplies for their schools.

I do not personally hold unemployment to be any presidents fault because this should be a capitalistic free enterprise with some federal control, but here is a table i thought was interesting...

http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/jobs/table1.html

Basically, unemployment had its greatest rates under the new Bush admin, even Reagan of all people did better than him (thats pretty sad because Reagan was a complete, and utter idiot). But, Bush is still in his term, so I think the best way to look at the overall rates would be to find a table reflecting employment rates that covers all of this year.

Taxes were cut across the board. It appears that the rich get more of a tax cut because they pay a vast majority of the taxes. IE tax cuts for all but if you are paying less your tax cut is not as great. Why should I have to pay more taxes than I already do to support many people who just don't give a shit. I already pay 40 - 45%. Would you feel it to be fair that I pay half of my income? That would just promote more apathy in an already unmotivated society. Why would someone strive to make a good living when they have to give so much of their earnings to the government?

9/11 sure didn't help things and and put a hurt on the economy which does have some correlation with the deficit.

annoy:
A person who is able to get elected President is not an idiot regardless if you agree with them or not. I didin't agree with Clinton on many things but the man is extremely intelligent.

[quote="Short Hand":bf26c]watch ferenheit 9/11 they are countless. if you haven't seen it then stfu,.[/quote:bf26c]

Wow, You acctually believed something in that bull shit tirade???


[quote:bf26c]Taxes were cut across the board. It appears that the rich get more of a tax cut because they pay a vast majority of the taxes. IE tax cuts for all but if you are paying less your tax cut is not as great. Why should I have to pay more taxes than I already do to support many people who just don't give a shit. I already pay 40 - 45%. Would you feel it to be fair that I pay half of my income? That would just promote more apathy in an already unmotivated society. Why would someone strive to make a good living when they have to give so much of their earnings to the government? [/quote:bf26c]

rock:

[quote:bf26c]I forget, Pick Axe. Whats the UN's stance on this war?[/quote:bf26c]

Who gives a fuck about the UN? They have no real power. The UN has became so downgraded in the last 15 years. I think we should withdrawl from the UN and boot em out of New York. I wonder how far they'd get without our support. oOo:

[quote:bf26c]<<-His war in iraq has already killed more innnocents then al-qaeda did on sep. 11

I would hope there are more people in Iraq than there are in the WTC. Specious comparison.[/quote:bf26c]

That reads kida weird man.

Have you watched ferenheit 911 you disrespecful little shit ? Your saying the US soldiers familys it talks about, sons and daughters who have died over there did not die ? go to hell, watch it before you run your mouth. The movie is not extrememist if you ask me, a great peice of work on Moore's behalf. "hell he didnt even put himself in their much to statisfy all you people who can't stand to look at him because he is ab ig guy.


Give a reason to why its all lies before you go running your little republican mouth. Watch it befroe you say anything.

Presidents don't get themselves elected, their campeign staff do fool.

[quote="Short Hand":7e697]Have you watched ferenheit 911 you disrespecful little shit ? Your saying the US soldiers familys it talks about, sons and daughters who have died over there did not die ? go to hell, watch it before you run your mouth. The movie is not extrememist if you ask me, a great peice of work on Moore's behalf. "hell he didnt even put himself in their much to statisfy all you people who can't stand to look at him because he is ab ig guy.


Give a reason to why its all lies before you go running your little republican mouth. Watch it befroe you say anything.[/quote:7e697]

Fahrenheit is a bunch of propaganda. Yes, i have seen it.

[quote="Short Hand":a656d]Presidents don't get themselves elected, their campeign staff do fool.[/quote:a656d]

Well i guess people sit at their houses and a campaign staff comes knocking on their door and says" we can make you a president". No work on that individuals behalf in public service or making the necessary connections to place them in the public eye to get a platform. Of course being from Canada, you always have such a vast knowledge of American politics and you obviously think just any dumbass is able to even place themselves in the position to be president. Do yourself a favor Sh and stick to the micheal moore fan club and stop trying to flame me. Your much more suited for that and keeping your nose inches away from pyro's asshole. You feel that you know it all and I know you don't . Our opinions or views won't change. So go spew your extreme liberal rhetoric and bullshit to someone who gives a fuck and try worring about what goes on in your own country for once. I for one am glad you are Canadian, one less extreme liberal in this country. Your much more radical and not nearly as intelligent than Clinton . The whole irony is that you spend so much time downing American conservatives and you can't even vote so your opinion is more usless than pedophile in a nursing home.