meh...get the x800 pro i say...get maybe 20 fps less at max than those...and will only be like what ...300 when that comes out...plus can be modded to an x800 xt regular with its 12 pipelines and the unused 4 pipelines and just unlock those and there ya go....:Note: it has to be a ViVo x800 pro... meaning video in video out rock:

gerard if i lived near you id steal your system happy:

Meh.. what's it going to cost to upgrade to a mobo that can handle PCI-e and what's the P/S reqs?

bdfi

They'll cost pretty much what a regular agp brand name one would cost at the minute, like $120 or so, unless you want dual pci-e slots for nvidia sli or ati sli when its available, those will cost more.

hellfire: plzdie: loney:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 127&depa=0

Socket 478 PCI-E mobo (the kind i need if i want PCI-E), only 95$

not bad.

3 FPS and a double slot cooler.

Nice refresh, ATI. It's even worse than the 9800 Pro -> 9800XT.

It was for yield improvements at the fabrication plant which would = more availability, wasn't for frame rate improvement.

But they could has easily increased the clock speeds further and finally break the tie of highend cards.

The core on that x800 series has reached its limits for normal cooling, mine tops out at around 535mhz with artic cooling from a default of 520mhz, unless you go to extreme cooling like watercooling or some kinda compressor the x850 probably won't clock that much faster either.

To get any real difference out of it they woulda had to have the core at least 100mhz faster and on stock cooling i dont think it could acheive that.

Hence the r5xx around april or so biggrin:

I am just thinking of maybe using 2 midrange cards in a sli setup. little bit more then a top range card, shiould be a significant performance boost.

Oh joy, I can't wait for the tech forums to flood with speculation of the new cores.... eek:


There are rumors that the NV50 got canned... I wonder what Nvidia is up too.

i only pop into hardforum now for help & THE car forums.