Why not just do a natural workout? All on your own, and NAKED.

Some decent creatine will give you mass and strength gains. However, you need to take into consideration that creatine will cause your body to retain water (which accounts for a majority of the actual mass put on.)

I suggest going to a site like http://1fast400.com instead of blowing your money on some overpriced and no good GNC supplement. Swole V2 and Sans V12 both gave me great results.

Good luck!

If you decided to just go with some Whey Protein this site also has good deals. 5lbs. of 100% Whey Protein (23g per serving) for $25! rock:

Nein, get the 10lb here http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=63

I use the chocolate with peanut butter, it's great. They have the best prices and shipping is usually a couple of days.

what ever happened to hard work? damn women. eek:

You still need protein with that hard work or you'll end up looking like a buff skeleton.

[quote="Short Hand":9afd8]Steroids[/quote:9afd8]

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bulknutrition=1fast400 biggrin: But, yeah, the 10lb is a better deal.

thanks for your help guys.

I was in your situation about 2 years ago towards the end of my junior year in high school I had been lifting since the begining of the year and had got cutter but not bigger and hadn't made any signifigant muscle gain. The secret like what has already been stated is your diet. Get on a good multi vitaman, i recomend gnc mega men, also you have to increase your protien intake which means trying to eat 6 small meals a day and taking protien. I usually took liquid amino acids about an hour before workout, about an hour after workout i'd take protien, and before i went to sleep i'd take protien. But if you are like me and wanted to see real results, I'd recomend getting on NO2. Read up about NO2 here: http://www.getno2.com/ its pretty expensive but it works, after 2 21 day cycles (The bottles last 21 days) you will be seeing serious results. Taking NO2, protien, and having the right diet and most importantly a good workout routine will enable you to make signifigant gains. But now that I'm at the citadel now I can't afford 60 bucks a month for no2 so i'm not on it anymore, once i'm finished with knob year though I plan on getting back on it, trust me it works, it may be a little expensive but if you wanna get ripped its worth it.

N02 did nothing for me...it reacts differently with different people.

just take the easy way out, steroids. beer: rock: biggrin: ed:


(Steroids shrinks your balls temporarily , since testosterone is being supercharged threw your body via the steroids, With a proper recovery kit, they come back to normal after the cycles end. AND your gains which are well god lol stay. Without the recovery kit, your balls can't generate testerone because of their degraded state. Recovery kits help you off. I am just giving the facts out about steroids, not endorsing their use. I was suggesting them as a joke in the first place. The whole "ball shrink thing" is the least of anyones concerns if you are on steroids. Mood swings, breast developement, impotence, cancer are all things which should be on your mind first. beer:

If I were you id do it the old fashoned natural way. As a bunch of people have stated already eat 6 times a day. What I do is some hard boiled eggs for breakfast 2-3 times a week(more than that is bad for you), I drink a shitload of fat free milk(whenever Im thirsty) cuz it has a hell of a lot of protien, basically eat meals that give you energy, and also provide protien like some sushi, sandwhich, beans, nonfatty meat, none of the greasy burgers, pizza's, tocao's and such. Id try that first, and if you dont get results from that, then Id go with artificial way/supplements/watever. Also, a common mistake people tend to do is excercise the same part of their body every day. What you should do is alternate upper body one day, lower body the next day, to give your muscles time to regrow. And thats about all I have to say to you, so good luck rock:

also, if you only bench, dont expect to have huge huge bicepts, it will tone your tricepts and work your shoulders/chest. i suggest benching, curling with dumbells, and squatting. Dont curl with a barbel, because one hand compensates for the other, and gets more of a workout. Also, do the incline, and work on your lats/hams too. I took creatine for a few months, and it didnt help me much, just toned my bi's and tri's.

have fun.