my friend has the iriver and it really nice. If i ever get one, I'll probably be buying the iriver. We used some headphone splitters for it so we could share 3 headphones in one jack and it still had amazing quality sound and volume (usually when you use a splitter the volume drastically lowers).

iriver is the most overprices P.O.S that ive seen...ffs they are asking 220$ for a 512mb one.

Zen micro you can find for 200....and it has a removable drive feature. You click "removable disk" and its a mini hard drive, and it asks how much you want to partition of the MP3 player 256, 512, 1 gig so on.

i can click and drag songs and .txt files from my computer to ipod

[quote="Scalping Chief":653d5]i can click and drag songs and .txt files from my computer to ipod[/quote:653d5]

about 95% of mp3 player's work that way, as Gerv said.

I hear alot of good about Ipod's, then I hear alot of bad. I hear ALOT of complaints towards sound quality, and the issue of short battery life. I need my music to sound as good as possible. If it sounds like shit, it will just ruin the music.

I have a 20gig 4th gen i-pod and the suond quality is great even with the little POS headphones that came with it, also concerning battery life i'd say it lasts about 20 hours non-stop or so maybe a little longer.

the sound quality is fine, i can go through a day of school listening to it alot, and even when i go home, then let it recharge over night. have never had the battery run out on me

[quote="Jonsey_":9232e]I have a 20gig 4th gen i-pod and the suond quality is great even with the little POS headphones that came with it, also concerning battery life i'd say it lasts about 20 hours non-stop or so maybe a little longer.[/quote:9232e]

i agree. never never never had my battery run out and ive listened to it after i didnt charge it for weeks. sound quality is just as good as it gets. anti your crazy stupid:

iPods have better sound quality than Zen Xtras. I have both and the iPod and much crisper and more saturated than the Zen.

Other than that I can't compare the sound quality to any other MP3 players.

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But they are all the same - and itd be easier to sell the iPod than the other brands.[/quote:7fef1]

I'd say iPods hold their value a wee bit longer than some of the other brands due to their perceived "coolness" factor.

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":1234b][quote="TGB!":1234b]

But they are all the same - and itd be easier to sell the iPod than the other brands.[/quote:1234b]

I'd say iPods hold their value a wee bit longer than some of the other brands due to their perceived "coolness" factor.[/quote:1234b]

"cool" and an apple product in the same sentence, holy shit ed:

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