No, but I never made claims regarding the majority of american hiphop fans, did I? Bitch.

Its clear to me I have a far better grasp on the industry than Pyro does, simply because I read more and am more involved in the online community than he is, because I am what some would consider a freak when it comes to my interest in the genre and culture.

Oh, and by the way, Shut the fuck up, you obviously don't know fuck all about this so why get involved? Oh yeah, that's right because you're a rolly-polly dumb as fuck little cunt who plays grab-dick with your best boyfriend in the whole wide world for your daddy who takes pictures of it. Fucking pissmouth.

hahahaaha jebus

u must not be listening to lyrics correctly , cuz jay spits hot fire...im a break it down - how are the lyrics not great ?

1,rulers back-5/5 best intro ever
2.takeover-classic . one of the best disses ever .5/5
3. h to the izzo -( how in the hell is this song considered wack ) 5/5 in my book. I do this for my culture To let 'em know what a ninja look like, when a ninja in a roaster Show 'em how to move in a room full of vultures Industry shady it need to be taken over Label owners hate me I'm raisin the status quo up I'm overchargin ninjaz for what they did to the Cold Crush Pay us like you owe us for all the years that you hoed us We can talk, but money talks so talk mo' bucks Yeah... Hov' is back, life stories told through rap Ninjaz actin like I sold you crack Like I told you sell drugs; no, Hov' did that so hopefully you won't have to go through that I was raised in the pro-jects, roaches and rats Smokers out back, sellin they mama's sofa Lookouts on the corner, focused on the ave Ladies in the window, focused on the kinfolk Me under a lamp post, why I got my hand closed? Cracks in my palm, watchin the long arm of the law So you know I seen it all before I seen hoop dreams deflate like a true fiend's weight To try and to fail, the two things I hate Succeed in this rap game, the two things that's great H to the izz-O, V to the izz-A What else can I say about dude, I gets bu-sy

4.girls girls girls - this beat is fire and q-tip , biz markie and slick rick make the hook fire .. unless your gay , how can you not like this song(yes i know you cant relate to the lyrics but still aint no flaw in his skills on this song)...4/5

5. JIGGA that ninja - this is the only song i can understand someone not liking but its a party jam , and a decent one at that .3/5 "I am, killin 'em out there, they needin first aid Cause the boy got more 6's than first grade The crib got, killer views and square feet You have to film MTV Cribs for a week"

6. you dont know(classic track) 5/5 -some quotables "I'm from the streets where the hood could swallow a man, bullets'll follow a man There's so much coke that you could run the slalom" You are now lookin at one smart black boy Momma ain't raised no fool Put me anywhere on God's green earth, I'll triple my worth Mothersucker - I, will, not, lose I sell ice in the winter, I sell fire in hell I am a hustler baby, I'll sell water to a well I was born to get cake, move on and switch states Cop the Coupe with the roof gone and switch plates Was born to dictate, never follow orders----- how is that not fire?

7.hola hovito- this is maybe the only other track i can see some not liking but thats it . 3.5/5 here are some quotables - if you dont like them ur wack. Hov' been about that dough since I was a day old Oh, push perrico if I need to for the rule of evil Was born in the belly that's the way the streets breed you One life to live - notice you get no sequel So I truly got to live this like my last movie Six oohie, jewels drippin, big toolie I ball for real, y'all ninjaz is Sam Bowie And with the third pick - I made the earth sick M.J., hem Jay, fade away perfect I rhyme sicker than every rhyme spitter Every crime ninja that rhyme or touch a mic because my mind's quicker I'm a eighty-eighter, nine-six to "Reasonable Doubt"

8.heart of the city- classic track -5/5 u already know how good this song is

9.never change .5/5 classic track and hands down my favorite hov song ever ....its deep and hov sounds so sincere and keeps it straight gutter on one of the best kanye beats ever .

10. song cry - great story and true .4/5

11. all i need...4/5 - it isnt even top 5 on the album

12. renegade featuring em - classic track - 5/5

13. momma loves me - hov gets deep - great track 4.5/5

14. lyrical exercise (probably the most underrated track on the album ) 4.5/5 ..hovs exercise and training metaphors are sick! - his double meanings are straight also . "jigga man is diesel when i lift the 8 up" I'm catching my second wind the second the first one end I am "focused man" And I'm not afraid of death And I'm going all out I circle the vultures in a van and I run the block (run) Pull up in a drop (pull up) Push up on my money (push up) I'm in great shape dunny I keep jacks jumping thirty six sets Like a personal trainer I teach coke to stretch I pump and rock sweats Y'all ain't ready to workout with the boy Your flow is brain on drugs Mines is rap on steroids

15. girls girls girls remix - classic track and better than the original imo got this smarty art chick to whom I pose this question I read a couple books to add to her soul's progression to put this in laymen's term, I gave her some knowledge she gave me, brains in return, she had to drop out of college knowin she does this homework, I give her in house tutoring in and out I'm movin through her student body union and ma, our time together is our time together, and uh our time apart is our time apart so love Jay with your mind girl and not your heart and some day I slow down, but for now I get around like the late Makiavelli or Perelli twenty inches or caine and O-dogs, stick up tape from menace

how is this not a classic? "do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it ?"

roflmao biggrin: this is the funniest thread to date.. happy:

GAY-Z.

Go listen to some rap thats actually worth listening to.

Is this actual Hip-Hop discussion? It sounds more like just Jay-Z bashing. And insulting people for having their own opinions, even if their opinions aren't that great.

I just moved the thread in here with a random name, because it didnt belong in a discussion about a sig. If the Mod's in here see it fit, they can change the topic.

who gives a fuck what somone listens to. whatever makes you happy and you enjoy your self be it jay-z, underground nigga flash mcgee or the fuckin spice girls

i got 99 problems but a bitch aint one

I'm not gonna get into the techical side of this debate. Bottom line is what Nyck states. Listen to what you like.

I listen to some current rap even though i was brought up on Run DMC/Public Enemy/Whodini/BDP....
My stepfather taught me something a long time ago. He told me not to get locked into a single genre or decade of tunes. He told me to expand myself because it's all good, no matter what it is. You know what?, he was right. I now listen to just about anything.....from metal, classical, rap, blues and so on.

the bottom line is tripper is a fucking douchebag that takes it up the ass by his boyfriend lover elfaggo on a daily basis.

Minus Kenny G.

rap sucks

There is a hip-hop club down the street from me. They have to stop having open mic nights because those posers keep shooting each other. Morons I tell ya.




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