2nd that.

3 stories high is a long way up. You'd be lucky not to severely snap a leg or arm in half jumping from that distance unless you've been trained on how to cushion a fall.

[quote="Chronic Diarrhea":c40d9]3 stories high is a long way up. You'd be lucky not to severely snap a leg or arm in half jumping from that distance unless you've been trained on how to cushion a fall.[/quote:c40d9]

60 feet is what he jumped from

then this guy of course resisted arrest and fought back and got his ass stomped. he could have been shot considering the circumstances.

dont get me wrong I dont agree with cops going overboard with drinking arrests and shit like the rodney king and malice green fiascos. but when you shoot a married father of 2 point black in the face 2 times, and stab an 84 yr old woman beforehand. He's lucky to have gotten away with a beat down.

you can scream and woot and hollar all you want about morals, but everyone is human, the police are not Robocop, emotion less robots so yes emotions can get pretty high and tight. I want you to imagine that one of the people you care for the most in the entire world was shot dead in the face and you were chasing after him. I'm sure captain moral would just cuff all while fighting and swinging and resisting. So yea if this guy is going rage a beating may have been the only way to bring him down mace may have been inneffective. couple that with the fact that their friend was just shot in the face. he deserved it.

[quote="TGB!":ca9ca]Come the hell on. Its three stories. . .not 8 or 10. And a three-story fall isnt going to give you those kinds of injuries. The police obviously beat the guy; if they hadnt all they would have had to do is release some sort of forensic report regarding the nature of the injuries.[/quote:ca9ca]

You can't be that naive can you? We're talking 3 fucking stories THROUGH a pane of glass. Ever see someones face after breaking the windshield with it in a car wreck? (and i'm not even talking going through it) You'll see those injuries are very similar.

I'm not disputing your thoughts (IF IN FACT THE COPS BEAT HIM TO MAKE ALL THOSE INJURIES YOU SEE) I just doubt that he didn't get injured while diving through a glass window and tumbling 3 stories to the street below. Heck, my lil' guy bumped his face on a brick fireplace and it looked like he went a round with Tyson. Black eye and 7 stitches later and he didn't fall 3 stories.

I personally dont believe he received those facial injuries in the fall, but whatever. Cops are supposed to be held up to better standards and to use restraint. They are trained, paid and expected to enforce the law - the law doesnt say that they can beat the shit out of suspects just because he killed one of their own. Thats another thing im sick of. He killed a cop, so that makes it more horrible than killing someone else? So its ok for police to put more of an effort to bring in cop killers than people who victimize the rest of us? This is an extreme case, but if you think that they can toss in a few extra punches just because you think this guy deserved it then what about other scenarios?

protip: people from california have less respect for police because of distrust issues stemming from rodney king and other fuck ups on their part.

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I wish the police in England would do stuff like that, average copper doesn't even carry a gun here. We got a guy who was caught on the underground with a bag/bomb & he's claiming that it was a fake only to scare people kus he was against the war in Iraq. annoy:

Ya right- I don't think so, if I was calling the shots we'd hang that muthafka from London Bridge, then have his head chopped off at the Tower of London & then drag whatever's left of him up the Mall & past Buckingham palace so the Queen can spit on em. cuss:

hah, the distrust part is true not because of Rodney King or other people who've made it on the news, its because of regular people with past experiences that are such a common thing now. I would think it would be the same in all metro areas. You shouldnt just give the police and govt the respect and meet the demands of all their wishes, you should question their actions when theyre heavy handed and unecessary - like this case. Cops shouldnt go around beating up suspects like that. You dont see them do it to rapists or child molesters, they ONLY do it when someone fucks around with other cops. They arent doing it to protect you, they are only doing it to save their own pride and get revenge. Revenge by the police is not justice and is something we should all be wary about.

when cops take things into their own hands, they violate the purpose of the judicial system. They aren't there to determine fault and execute punishment.

That being said, I can understand why the cops might beat this guy up, but that doesn't make it right.

Well then fuck I guess no ass beating is right, but I'm not going to give this cop shit over it; I might wanna kick someones ass myself someday.

The guy WAS a P.O.S.. He was on trial for murdering an elderly woman. They didn't think highly of him to begin with, and then he shot a cop in the face... in a court room. It's total disrespect to the country, not just the officer he killed and his family.. and friends.

The guy was lucky they didn't kill him. It's not right for cops to act out of emotion like that, but when some situations are that overwhelming you can't blame them. You can't. And if you do, then become a cop, and stfu.

he wasn't on trial for the woman's murder and he wasn't in a courtroom when he shot the cop, but I think you're right about the cops just having unrestrained emotion, that's why I said I could understand WHY they did it, but I still don't think it was ok. I know sometimes people get carried away and sometimes because of their emotion, but that doesn't justify their actions.

the cops should be prosecuted too, you cant say 'its ok because you wre under emotional stress.' fuck that, you are trained to deal with stress and remain calm under fire and under hostilities. If you cant remain cool and not pummel a guys face in, turn in your badge. if you do it anyway, you need to be prosecuted.

Did it say if the guy kept the gun he stole from the cop? If so, he's lucky they didn't fucking shoot him to death.