Y: Good work man! I'll definately give it a try on my server.

Of course, coupla notes ;) On running both this and Autokick, I really don't see it to be a problem. Occasionally you may have one program not get a return result, but that should actually be quite rare if your time cycles are set reasonably. Kudos for making the skin list a text file also, good thinking.

For those asking about integration with DMz or AK, yes both are possible. Scorpio Midget and I got together a prototype player health/team/skin routine that currently just annouces the status of these cvars. I doubt however that I'll be including it in the next beta as anything more than an optional display routine, as I am concentrating on different things. Beyond wanting one program to "do it all" in an ideal situation, I don't see it as a problem having several different projects with the same functionality. Since most situations are hardly ideal, it gives the admin a wider range of choices.
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Also is it possible to impliment a Ban feature with this program? I mean can you put it in so that if the same jerk re-enters with the same skin like 3 times they just get banned?

Also. If the person gets kicked and imediatly re-enters will they be instantly rekicked or will i have to wait the time period for it to scan again before there kicked again?

[quote:e2a8f]Also is it possible to impliment a Ban feature with this program? I mean can you put it in so that if the same jerk re-enters with the same skin like 3 times they just get banned? [/quote:e2a8f]

Yep, it's possible, I didn't that cause I thought banning a player for using some skin is just too much. However, now I think that some of the skins listed (well, most of it) are just plain cheats, so I'm thinking about it.

[quote:e2a8f]Also. If the person gets kicked and imediatly re-enters will they be instantly rekicked or will i have to wait the time period for it to scan again before there kicked again? [/quote:e2a8f]

The rekick thing is what I understand as banning (there's currently no other way to keep a player away from your server - the stattik banning method which I'm currently using means you must have direct access to the server). So right now you must wait till the next scan for him to be kicked again (if he's still trying to use a bright skin). I'm not sure how long it will take me to develop a new version, but if Spearhead is out by the time, it should include an IPlist of banned players. Anyway, the feature will be of course enabled/disable by the admin just as everything is now.

Delator 1.1 wishlist biggrin: :

- Ability to close the server to public players with a click
- Banning feature
- Run on the systray

Things to fix:

- Error 126 on widows 98 se
- skins working both in upper and lowercase
- skins working with spaces on the name

Keep your comments coming! biggrin:

Your list is missing a lot...

SerialKillalalala's Cheat Skin Pack,
SerialKillalalala's Invisible Skins,
MPowell's Red Head Pack,
MPowell's Yellow Skins...

Hey yocho great idea.

People out there really do take the piss, they abuse every single loophole in the game to increase their frags.

Give me a shout when its done and I'll do a write up on it on my website:

Medal of Honor: Multiplayer

Good luck! we need more soldiers like you cool:

Lol, it's already finished! biggrin:

Take a look on the thread, there's is a link posted somewhere :-), feel free to grab it and add it to your site.

And thank you very much for your comments :-D

Regards

Lol, sorry, I was too lazy to read it all! freak:

How do i update the list of skins? I got a direct hit but the person wasnt kicked. I was watching it and reviewing the info it returned and the person was wearing a skin i had specified as a cheat and they were not kicked. I think i simply messed up the text file by editing it to be just like the one in the first post.

Thank you for taking my questions, and suggestions.

[quote:0bb98]How do i update the list of skins? I got a direct hit but the person wasnt kicked. I was watching it and reviewing the info it returned and the person was wearing a skin i had specified as a cheat and they were not kicked. I think i simply messed up the text file by editing it to be just like the one in the first post. [/quote:0bb98]

Updating the list should be easy, just one skin on each line; one thing to note, however: the skins on dumpuser always appear in lowercase, and that's how they should be written on the skin list. I will fix that on the next release. Also, in order to the player to be kicked the check box should be on, of course, but I can't think of any other setting involved...

If you're still having problems send me your list and the name of skin that's causing the problem and I'll do some tests.

Thanks.. I think it was the capital letters, so i went through and fixed it. I'll run a test later tonight so i can monitor it. For now its time to sleep. Thanks for the speedy reply.

As far as skins making your aim better is concerned - thats bullshit. I dont think skins have any effect on how well you aim. Skins however, do allow you to see your enemy from greater distances and usually before they see you.

Practise will only make your aim better, unless your one of the cheating types with an aimbot *sigh*.

Wishlist
 

With the next version can you also make it minimize to the system tray like autokick does?

[quote:83f41]As far as skins making your aim better is concerned - thats bullshit. I dont think skins have any effect on how well you aim. Skins however, do allow you to see your enemy from greater distances and usually before they see you. [/quote:83f41]

Actually, that's what I meant (with maybe too few words): Yo see them sooner ed: -> you get extra time to aim fire2: -> you aim better oOo:

[quote:83f41]With the next version can you also make it minimize to the system tray like autokick does? [/quote:83f41]

Another one for the wishlist biggrin:! Tough I had already thought of including an option to make it run minimized, I've never tried to make an app run on the systray, but then again I had never tried to make a winsock app before this one biggrin:

Dude, your program is AWESOME. Dumpuser takes too long to type with some of those names! I have used it one day and it kicks ass!

Thanks!

Hogan!

Thank you very much, Hogan,

I have a few ideas for the next version (most of them suggested by aa.com people) which will make it much better. However, yesterday our clan lost the server we were playing on, and it could take a while until I can start working on the new project (we are all trying to find a new one). But I will freak:

Regards

question.. does it scan for both skins that a player is using for the warning message? One of my guys had german_spideman on and if would keep missing him allthough it was on my list.

idea?

Hogan

OK... I figured it out.. do not have ANY spaces left after the skin name... then it started working fine.

Hi,

I think Delator is a great idea! I would like this option added!

Option Standard Skins only.
Kick if not using standard skin after x mins.
%player Please change to a Stardard Mohaa Skin or you will be kicked!

The Clan I am in try and run a Standard skin only Server this option would be of great use to us and would be of great use in a clan match as we always quote in our Match Rules "Standard Skins only".

Also if there was a option to log all names and skins and time and date so we can prove a clan was trying to brake our Rules!

Any Chance of this option being added Please?

Question - Will Delator Detect Aim Bots? I know what they do but I do not know how they work as I have no intrest in using them. If Delator can detect them this would or is great freak:

You know what? I honestly don't think it's cheating. The USA had night vision goggles that Iraq never had. I think it's fair game. These skins aren't making you pull the trigger any different. You still need to line up and pop the enemy.

[quote="AKA_Demon":7033c]You know what? I honestly don't think it's cheating. The USA had night vision goggles that Iraq never had. I think it's fair game. These skins aren't making you pull the trigger any different. You still need to line up and pop the enemy.[/quote:7033c]

OK, stand in the house at the end of the street on hunt, and when I snipe you from the other end, say that it's fair. It's a advantage over other players, to be able to see them from a distance when others can't. End of story.

Yochoy, I'm sure you know this already, but I saw you comment about getting uppercase names & spaced skins blocked. Let me know if you need help with this, as I know how to do this. biggrin:

Yep, I know, but thanks a lot anyway :-), it's just that some people were already waiting for the first Delator release, and it was not as tested as I planned. I'm really busy nowadays, but I plan to release soon a new executable with some minor fixes (like the uppercase, spaces, and err 126 on win98), then I will start working on version 2.0, that will include a lot of new features, including improved cheat detection (whitewalls, no fog. some wallhacks...) and a new 'restricted mode', wich will only allow standard skins (bteamfox). Well, that's my intention, I'm not sure if I'll be able to do that biggrin:

AKA_Demon, I really believe that it's up to the admin to decide if some skin is allowed or not on his server. According to your opinion, any cheat would be ok (wallhacks, no fog, no bushes... they don't improve your aim). Not trying to flame you, it's just that I don't share your point.

Regards

You guys that dont think using these skins are a cheat WAKE UP!!!!
If you check out the cheat sites the latest in skins is one that can be seen THRU WALLS. No more need for wallhacks now.

Yocho: I think the idea of looking for a list of acceptable skins (stock skins) and then kicking might be a better way to go with the constant creation of new cheatin skins. The list would be smaller and you can add the ones that your clan is using.

[quote="ST_Bazooka_Joe":6d627]

OK, stand in the house at the end of the street on hunt, and when I snipe you from the other end, say that it's fair. It's a advantage over other players, to be able to see them from a distance when others can't. End of story.[/quote:6d627]

I find absolutely nothing wrong it. It's just like an government coming up with technology. There are no rules of war.

Skins are available to anyone that wants them. If you think it's cheating, then outlaw it on your server with this prog.

Sorry to get off subject, but you are wrong. There ARE rules of war. I don thappen to know all of them, but they do exist.

[quote="AKA_Demon":8c28a][quote="ST_Bazooka_Joe":8c28a]

OK, stand in the house at the end of the street on hunt, and when I snipe you from the other end, say that it's fair. It's a advantage over other players, to be able to see them from a distance when others can't. End of story.[/quote:8c28a]

I find absolutely nothing wrong it. It's just like an government coming up with technology. There are no rules of war.

Skins are available to anyone that wants them. If you think it's cheating, then outlaw it on your server with this prog.[/quote:8c28a]

The thing you're missing is that this game is portraying a battle in which they didn't have any sort of technology to help find the enemy other than aircraft and sonar in the ocean. So to say that a skin or anything else that helps you find the enemy is an advantage by technology is just condoning cheats with a poor excuse.

And Plague is right, there are rules. It's known as the Geneva Convention. That's why there were the Nuremburg (sp?) trials. Someone had to atone for all of the crap that occured leading up to and during WW2.

So, what I suggest to you if you think cheating is just getting an advantage by technology and that it's ok - go play another game where technology is advanced in the premise and try to change the rules there. The MOH community doesn't need jackasses like you changing the rules of this game.

[quote="The Plague of Death":b677c]Sorry to get off subject, but you are wrong. There ARE rules of war. I don thappen to know all of them, but they do exist.[/quote:b677c]

There were in WWII like Germany wasnt allowed to use their gas. Youd also discover that if you get to the end of Moh.

I LOVE cheaters.. they always try to justify their cheating with such absurd examples...

night vision goggles in Iraq??? hahahaha

I needed a good laugh..

You do realize the setting for this game is WWII, right?? right???

On another note.. Delator is great!! kickin the cheaters left and right!!!

lol cheaters
 

swordfight: man oh man a cheater comes into a anti cheat post trying to say im a some one i love them cheats stop making it so hard for me to uses them.

lol thats the point a noob cheater like you comes in a server trys to own (with cheats) pp say wow your good and you feel better about life.
i see it like this. you live a fake online gamers life and your real life is hard as well. no cheats in there ah. i bet you like you dog alot more then most pp love theres and you peep in on your mom showering from time to time thinking wow shes hot. oOo:

Here's a concept... What if you let ALL players use whatever skin they want, custom or stock. Then everyone is on equal footing and you dont have to worry about the anti cheat programs that dont work. Someone yells, "Cheater! you are using a bright skin!". The answer is "Well, Duh!" End of arguement. Actually, itsb better than that, no one ever crys. You want realistic, you say? Whatever, its a game, and realistic comes second to game play. Go play operation flashpoint if you want realistic.

So maybe we should have admins that police the servers. Well, I have found that admins dont police all participants equally. That means that the playing field isnt level. Still not as good a solution as letting all skins play. The no-fog, no-sunglare, no-recoil, transparent doors and wallhacks are all unfair, but a good player can still beat a mediocre player that uses them. Those cheats are where the real danger is. But thats not really the point of this thread.

I mostly play on a server that assumes players use skins. You can tell when someone is using them. Its pretty obvious. That server has some of the best, most even game play I have ever had on MOH. Many of the "regulated" servers are garbage, due to the inconsistent enforcement. Like I said, its pretty obvious.

I have said it before, but I will say it again, I WILL ABIDE BY THE RULES SET FORTH FOR THE SERVER. Check my files if you want, and I know people do. But I expect everyone else to play by the rules as well. And I expect them to be checked as well.

The concept of anti-cheat software is a good one. I just havent seen an admin/anti-cheat package that works yet. We can only hope that spearhead will solve the problem.

Add these too:
mickdude-ronald
german-ax-ronald
german-ax-todfindme
dutchbat_camo
dutchbatgerman_camo

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i'd like to thank the author, its a great proggy ! .. its been running on our server (213.221.175.228:29961) for three days and we find that most the guys who come on and get named and shamed just get off again sharpish.
one question though, a lot of people come on with the allied or axis 666 model, iv'e never seen this skin-what do they look like ?

thanks,
Beast

wheres the fulfilment i shooting some on thats bright orange (or what ever colour) half the joy i get out of the game is rifeling an enermy snipe because i cause a small bit of movement or saw a head bob or gun flash and not because his glow was causing one part of my screen to burn out quicker that the rest.

opps no edit ment to add on the bottom of that

like the work you are doing yochoylamuete with delator and like the 2.0 version we use it on our servers just could with some where for an updated skin list as it hard work trying to eep it current.