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geRV 01-13-2003 12:41 PM

[quote="-=[BAD]=-Thorshammer":fd818]

i think you accutally look at the histroy of ireland that is was the theate of a catholic invation instigated in rome that cause the intitial movement toward the control of island but then again most amerian are irish in decent so i'm wasting my time but if you knew people who had lost familey due to them then you would not be saying this

IMO they are the equivalent to the all the other terorist orgainastion out there they are not feedom fighters all they seek is the distruction of othere people happiness[/quote:fd818]


Sigh, spout some more bollocks while your're at it would ya kid. You want to talk attrocities, try your little retarded limey para regiment and an incident called "bloody sunday".

Oddball 01-13-2003 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pest
The distinction between freedom fighter and terrorist all depends on what side of the fence you are on.

Absolutely right. We called Allied soldiers in WWII "freedom fighters". Howver, do you really think that the Allies targeted strictly military targets? Absolutely not. The Allies found it necessary to wear down the spirit of Germany by bombing the shit out of them. Yet we know that these were freedom fighters. However, Germans also bombed London with the intent of killing civilians. Allies also dropped napalm bombs on civilians. This pretty much puts the two sides in perspective, they both do things horrible however they each think differently about it.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Also I suggest anyone who is going to argue for the Brits on this topic go learn Irish history from the 1960s onwards and then come and talk to me.

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-13-2003 01:59 PM

If you wana know why I'm mad bout this topic why dont you go talk to a guy I knew at school whose dad was blown into lots of itty bitty pieces by the I.R.A, god bless their souls..

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-13-2003 02:01 PM

[quote:71f5c]I'm also a ravid Australian Republican.[/quote:71f5c]

And yer squad is 1st Australian Imperial forces biggrin:

geRV 01-13-2003 02:08 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":54870]If you wana know why I'm mad bout this topic why dont you go talk to a guy I knew at school whose dad was blown into lots of itty bitty pieces by the I.R.A, god bless their souls..[/quote:54870]

And why should YOU be mad at it? It didn't happen to YOU so what have you got to be mad about it?

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-13-2003 02:16 PM

kus the I.R.A. go out of their way to kill innocents intentionally & on purpouse.

geRV 01-13-2003 02:19 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":662c3]kus the I.R.A. go out of their way to kill innocents intentionally & on purpouse.[/quote:662c3]


Umm no? Any time they leave a bomb thers always a phone warning, if theyw anted to kill innocents all the time they wouldn't bother giving phone warnings now would they?

Oddball 01-13-2003 03:00 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":a8a76][quote:a8a76]I'm also a ravid Australian Republican.[/quote:a8a76]

And yer squad is 1st Australian Imperial forces biggrin:[/quote:a8a76]

Yes well I am referring to a time when support for the British was at it's highest....like I said, 1950s population dies and we become a Republic.

It's not that I *hate* Britain, I just feel our country needs no further attachment to the UK cos they never care about us anyways.

I do hate the English for what they did to the Irish....and the Scots...and the Indians etc etc. Most of that is in the past but the Ireland problem is very real and very modern.

Oddball 01-13-2003 03:00 PM

Like I said before Fluffy_Bunny, know your shit before you post.

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-13-2003 03:48 PM

All the details I have to know is that the I.R.A kill innocents who have nothing to do with the situation. I can understand their political point of view and I have sympathy for their cause, but there are diplomatic ways of doing things and blowing up kids is not one of them. If you do support that particular trait for which they are well known for then you should be ashamed.

McCoy 01-13-2003 04:11 PM

Hey Fluffy...you were at Bf1942Match.com Forums, then you left...you always posted funny shit, for the most part. ed:

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-13-2003 04:14 PM

I'm making a comeback, do you have the url to those forums I'm not sure if I remember em.

McCoy 01-13-2003 04:16 PM

Here it is Fluffy: http://www.forummatch.com/forum/forumdi ... orumid=272

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-13-2003 04:18 PM

Thx I remember that place, just couldnt remember the name I wanted to go back there but I lost the link when I reformatted.

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McCoy 01-13-2003 04:24 PM

Okay.

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Captain Bunny 01-13-2003 05:01 PM

Fluffy you really do know bugger all about the situation dont you. no wait sorry, all you know and all you need to know is that the IRA always kill innocent civilians.
Who told you that, Mr Mackay? IRA is bad mmmkay.
No doubt your attitude when the British Army kill innocent civilians is that its sad but shit happens, god save the queen. hake:
WTF has your beloved queen done to try and help matters between ireland and the republic. Aye thats right, f*ck all.

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-13-2003 05:54 PM

You deny that they kill civilians? If the army does it then it is disgusting and it is their fault and I don’t support it. What the hell can the queen do about the situation? If the people in Northern Ireland decide they want to be British that’s their problem all the govt can do is accept it and protect them. If I were primeminister I would probably pull out of Northern Ireland but I'm not so it’s tough shyt.

The fact remains that the I.R.A kill civilians who have jack shyt to do with the situation, they call the police like 2 min before the bomb goes off and when it kills people they are oh-so-sorry.

Your flaming me for this but was it I who started such a controversial thread?

Oddball 01-13-2003 05:59 PM

It started out as a "take a look at this community honouring soldiers" thread but you opened your trap and flamed it. mad:

geRV 01-13-2003 06:04 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":e8f93]You deny that they kill civilians? If the army does it then it is disgusting and it is their fault and I don’t support it. What the hell can the queen do about the situation? If the people in Northern Ireland decide they want to be British that’s their problem all the govt can do is accept it and protect them. If I were primeminister I would probably pull out of Northern Ireland but I'm not so it’s tough shyt.

The fact remains that the I.R.A kill civilians who have jack shyt to do with the situation, they call the police like 2 min before the bomb goes off and when it kills people they are oh-so-sorry.

Your flaming me for this but was it I who started such a controversial thread?[/quote:e8f93]

It was you that started pissing and whining, if you don't like it then fuck off elsewhere limey.

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-13-2003 06:07 PM

Bullshit, if i posted a thread honouring the I.R.A in the IL2 forums all the brits in there would be coming down on me like a ton of bricks. Kus the I.R.A are terrorists if I haven't said it already or you just didn't notice the first 1000 times.

geRV 01-13-2003 06:09 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":2d0c8]Bullshit, if i posted a thread honouring the I.R.A in the IL2 forums all the brits in there would be coming down on me like a ton of bricks. Kus the I.R.A are terrorists if I haven't said it already or you just didn't notice the first 1000 times.[/quote:2d0c8]

Well maybe the reason its nowt bitched at in here is because theres more americans and canadians than anythig else. And i don;t really give a shit about your little "definition" of the ira either. I suppose the brit army is infallable even when they kill unarmed people as well. oOo:

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-13-2003 06:14 PM

Do you see the Brit army placing high explosives in Dublin?

They are terrorists get over it, I support your cause but not your methods.

geRV 01-13-2003 06:26 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":32206]Do you see the Brit army placing high explosives in Dublin?

They are terrorists get over it, I support your cause but not your methods.[/quote:32206]

No but we did see the black and tans rolling into a football game and spraying the crowd with machinegun fire for no reason.

Oddball 01-13-2003 06:34 PM

I also saw th British army fhooting at unarmed civilians who threw rocks.

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geRV 01-13-2003 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Oddball
I also saw th British army fhooting at unarmed civilians who threw rocks.

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Yup but the british media would have you believe the rocks were in fact hand grenades

Oddball 01-13-2003 06:51 PM

Yes and those soldiers on Bloody Sunday were decorated by the Queen. Nice jesture You Royal Bitch

Oddball 01-13-2003 06:52 PM

Yes and those soldiers on Bloody Sunday were decorated by the Queen. Nice jesture You Royal Bitch

Captain Bunny 01-13-2003 06:58 PM

So by your logic fluffy bunny, whenever america or britian or any country starts attacking someone elses for a cause they beleive in, they are terrorists?
Its not terrorism in ireland, its war. Except isnt fully escalated declaired war.
If it was full war between the IRA and the british army, the british army would have anhilated them by now. But they cant, they are restricted. if they went in guns blazing it would be murder. not war.
the IRA have fucked up some times and at the same time so have the BA. Do you object to the memorials for the British soldiers killed in ireland? i bet you dont.

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 01-13-2003 07:43 PM

The British army in Northern Ireland is there for peacekeeping duties, maybe there were some f*kups and as I have said before the army shouldnt shoot civilians but the fact STILL REMAINS THAT THE IRA ARE TERRORISTS FOR KILLING CHILDREN, the brit army dosent go into NI and set up bombs UNLIKE THE IRA IN LONDON.

so KMA YOU FUCKWITS

geRV 01-13-2003 07:55 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":c4112]The British army in Northern Ireland is there for peacekeeping duties, maybe there were some f*kups and as I have said before the army shouldnt shoot civilians but the fact STILL REMAINS THAT THE IRA ARE TERRORISTS FOR KILLING CHILDREN, the brit army dosent go into NI and set up bombs UNLIKE THE IRA IN LONDON.

so KMA YOU FUCKWITS[/quote:c4112]



kma



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Innoxx 01-13-2003 08:00 PM

Peacekeeping purposes eh? Does the UN officially sanction Great Britan's prescence there?

Captain Bunny 01-13-2003 08:13 PM

kma is Kiss My Ass i beleive.

And now youre only a terrorist if you kill children?? I think by law anyone under the age of 18 is a child, and i think the BA have killed a few people under the age of 18 so does that make the BA terrorists too now?

01-13-2003 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx
Peacekeeping purposes eh? Does the UN officially sanction Great Britan's prescence there?

The UN is uber ghey. My view is kill people for whatever you feel like, so if a bunch of micks get off blowing up some limeys then so be it. And if Osama feels inspired to start a jihad let him do it. And if governments want to exterminate people, big deal.

01-13-2003 08:57 PM

Yes, the UN is really powerless now and is getting even more powerless.

Simo Häyhä 01-14-2003 03:28 PM

i am an american, my nationality is irish. dont piss off irish people, fluffy. or we will get gerard to own you.

Sgt>Stackem 01-14-2003 03:44 PM

Im an American of (Protestent) Irish disent. In the past I fully supported the I.R.A. but I can see how some would call them terrorists. Thier tactics have changed over the years. They wont will a popularity contest nowadays. Too many innocnets are being killed, wether its an accident or on purpose I dont know. One thing for sure the Brits really F-ed up that country. Many feel this is a war over religion, but I dont think that is the case, its over land.
mb

Sgt>Stackem 01-14-2003 03:45 PM

Im an American of (Protestent) Irish disent. In the past I fully supported the I.R.A. but I can see how some would call them terrorists. Thier tactics have changed over the years. They wont will a popularity contest nowadays. Too many innocnets are being killed, wether its an accident or on purpose I dont know. One thing for sure the Brits really F-ed up that country. Many feel this is a war over religion, but I dont think that is the case, its over land.
mb

Bartlett 01-15-2003 09:12 AM

tell me Gerard and all you other micks and supporters of terrorism, when you see incidents on the news where a large bomb has been set off in a crowded English shopping district by IRA scumbags, and then you see bloody, crying civilians covered in dirt running from the ruins and you hear the death toll, do you sit back, celebrate, and go
"hooray some more innocent limey bastards dead!" ?

I know I wasn't smiling when I saw the drama adaptation of Bloody Sunday, in fact, I felt pretty sick, and was ashamed at an otherwise fantastic British regiment.

This thread is completely inappropriate, and just because "there's more Americans and Canadians than English" doesn't mean that the few English here are not going to take offence.

It's also very ironic that a lot of yanks are saying that the British have fucked up a lot of countries, well you've certainly not got a pretty good record yourself in your small 200 year history, and what did you fuck up those countries for? The Domino Theory? Being the policeman of the world?

Don't bother saying all the atrocities that the Brits committed in Ireland to me, because I know, and it's sick, and you'll notice that not once in this post have I agreed with an English presence in Ireland, and also, I'm part Irish myself

Pfc.Green 01-15-2003 09:46 AM

I dont think anyone here said they supported the actions by the I.R.A. or the British that harm\kill civilians, we support the cause, I know I dont feel good when English are killed in an I.R.A. operation (I'm half English myself). And truly the U.S.have'nt done nearly as much as England in the country screwing up department, we have only been in control of maybe 2 countries and one the Phillipinnes was a war prize after we defeated the Spanish and they are already their own country again, the other I belive is Panama, which has also been givin back to the Panamanians. England on the other hand does'nt seem to want to part with its "stolen" countries i.e. Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland.

Bartlett 01-15-2003 10:07 AM

I never said Americans have done more, I certainly don't think that at all.
And also, we haven't really screwed countries, a lot of countries today that were part of our empire, and are now independent or not turned into great countries, Australia and Canada for instance.
It's quite ironic that we shipped off a load of convicts to Australia thinking it was a shithole, and now look at it, better than England.
Also, about not letting go of certain countries. I don't think Scotland's that bothered because we don't really do anything in Scotland, and I wouldn't say we wanted to hold onto Wales


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