First of all, most of the people who died were Somalians, and that was the Aidid militia people mostly. Let me remind you that the Aidid militia killed the innocent Somalians to corner all the incoming food from the U.N. They stole the food and kept it from the people, then sold it to whoever could buy it for an outrageous price or kept it to themselves. Doesn't really sound like much of a loss to me. Under 20 Americans died in Somalia, most of the people who died were bad, bad people, the Aidid militia men.

Also, the Iraqi's unfortunately will probably like the fact that they aren't oppressed by Saddam any more, but they still won't like us. See, with the Muslim religion, all Christians and Jews and other religions are "infidels." That's why they don't like us. I hate to sound condescending, but the Muslim religion is not one of tolerance, it's as simple as that.

[quote="[LoNe R@nGeR]":5204c]First of all, most of the people who died were Somalians, and that was the Aidid militia people mostly. Let me remind you that the Aidid militia killed the innocent Somalians to corner all the incoming food from the U.N. They stole the food and kept it from the people, then sold it to whoever could buy it for an outrageous price or kept it to themselves. Doesn't really sound like much of a loss to me. Under 20 Americans died in Somalia, most of the people who died were bad, bad people, the Aidid militia men.

Also, the Iraqi's unfortunately will probably like the fact that they aren't oppressed by Saddam any more, but they still won't like us. See, with the Muslim religion, all Christians and Jews and other religions are "infidels." That's why they don't like us. I hate to sound condescending, but the Muslim religion is not one of tolerance, it's as simple as that.[/quote:5204c]

ACtually you are wrong the muslim religion was the most tolerant out of the major religions in the Medieval ages. They were tolerant of Jews and allowed Christians to pilgrim to the holy sites. Its just politics has clearly been intergrated into religion deeply.

i think your both right and wrong, yes the muslim religion is about tolerance, but what we are dealing with here are a bunch of muslim extremist who have taken their religion to seriously. This is the downfall of religion, Christians did it in the crusades and the muslims are doing it with their jihad. I also agree that we are definitely seen as outsiders and do not belong in thier holy land. This will always be a problem until we pull out, if that would ever occur.

I really hope what Butch said about the Iraqi's throwing down their weapons and being liberated from Saddam, but there are a lot of bad consequences that could occur that will change the face of this planet, if things go wrong.

I think, no matter what happens there are going to be a lot of pissed off people at the US and Especially the president.

the final solution to world peace
 

heres the answer to world peace: usa-china-russia all get together for a sumit. split the rest of the world into thirds. each country getting an equal share. of course the oil is an even split. which ever little country dont like the idea. lets say canada dont like being part of the us. then russia and china help us smack them down. and we in turn help them with their little problems. now instead of having a bunch of little upstart countries tryin to make trouble its only the big three ruling the world. say like now saddam dont like the idea and they would rather die first. no problem. it could be aranged very easily. we could take canada, mexico and south america. which by the way then we could take care of the drug problem there.no more blow from columbia. im pretty sure a few well placed nukes would bring the malcontents into line pretty quick. and there you have it. WORLD PEACE AT LAST.

Re: the final solution to world peace
 

What drug problem? evil:

i say us and iraq get together an dnuke the whoe world

I say George W Bush and Saddam settle their differences in a duel instead of risking the lives of millions. hake:

American soldiers started getting killed in Somalia after,

The 24 Pakistani UN Peacekeepers were killed by Aidid Militia, Washington declares war on Aidid without confering with the Military leaders over in Somalia, A ransom is put on Aidid, So now the US who were originally there as a neutral peacekeeping force, are then 'forced' to go after Aidid, so then Somalians get pissed and think "All along, they just wanted to fuck us over... they were just waiting for a good chance."

It's a real shame, we were actually doing a bangup job over there :(

the muslim holy book, the Quran, calls other religions "infidels" how is that tolerant?

[quote=Argon]Yep I agree with this. Someone tell me why this country got outta doing assasinations? Don't give me ethics or morality bullshit either. We all know a quick one in saddam's head would end this, with no american lives lost.[/quote:66741]

Actually, Bush amended Executive Order 12333 of the american Intelligence Code so that "direct action" could be implemented if an implied threat is perceived against the national security. That was what that precision missile strike was on those Al qaeda officials, basically.

OMG! So many fools here. Islam teaches tolerances but in reality they are probably the most intolerant religion there is. They attack Jerusalem, they attack US, they attack everyone. Not only are they morons but they are hyopcrites too.

In Somalia, the Somalians killed were bad guys for the most part. Militia that were working for Aidid to starve people in Somalia. The US doesnt need to discuss any ransom or war on Aidid with the Somalia Gov (towel heads with rocks) becuase it was our war and HE has no link to THEM.

The Iraqi people for the most part dont like Saddam. If you remember, he gassed his own people, and is a VIOLENT dictator. You say "What about his election?" The election he created to elect a leader of Iraq. Thats true that he had one, but he was the only candidate.

Basically, lets appease Saddam by giving him France, its not like anyone likes those pussy ass, selfish, ungrateful bitches. Not like anyone would have trouble taking over France.....
Ask your local French person this:
-Do you speak german?
-No.
-Your welcome

[quote="[JuGGeRnAuT]":9bbce]
Basically, lets appease Saddam by giving him France, its not like anyone likes those pussy ass, selfish, ungrateful bitches. Not like anyone would have trouble taking over France.....
Ask your local French person this:
-Do you speak german?
-No.
-Your welcome[/quote:9bbce]
So true! biggrin:

who would win?
Hussein is always shooting one weapon or another (mostly AK-47s), so he's got to be a good shot.
Bush is a Texan, nobody can beat a Texan to the draw (as Audie Murphy showed many krauts)

OMG. So you're saying, that you can just go around other peoples countries doing what the fuck you want, and saying it is the "right thing," by not letting the nation's governments know that you are gonna send armed personnel in and tear shit up....? In THEIR country? hake:

just send tripper in he can fix it all hes a god.

YOU ARE SO DUMB! THINK BEFORE YOU THINK THEN TALK!
300,000 people starved to death, we went in to stop it, Aidid starts killing people, We hunt Aidid, AIdid killed us not Somalia gov so we have right to attack whoever the hell we want especially when they are the people that are starving the whole country

I too think these threads are stupid. No way in hell some ghay thread is going to change someones mind about the war, so why even bother? We're going to war whether our US Leaders think its best or not.

Now my contribution.

No one likes War. War is simply.... Hell. People die, which is never good but sometimes war is needed.

I laugh when you guys talk about Somalia & other instances where US forces were used to restore order. Somalia and Iraq are two completely different wars in the bigger picture. Somalia was classified as guerilla war fare in which platoons sent out sparatically are ordered to take out terrorist leaders and make house arrests. In Iraq's case, we're talking about a full pledged war - Armies against Armies. So basically dont compare war with Iraq to Somalia. Yet compare it to WWII or something that involves a super power.

In my opinion, this War is needed. Are we going to need another Pearl Harbor to realize that Saddam is repeating Hitler? How long will it be before Saddam crushes some little nation like hitler did the Rhine Land? Hes got to be stoped, and a bullet to his head will only worsen problems.

I too think these threads are stupid. No way in hell some ghay thread is going to change someones mind about the war, so why even bother? We're going to war whether our US Leaders think its best or not.

Now my contribution.

No one likes War. War is simply.... Hell. People die, which is never good but sometimes war is needed.

I laugh when you guys talk about Somalia & other instances where US forces were used to restore order. Somalia and Iraq are two completely different wars in the bigger picture. Somalia was classified as guerilla war fare in which platoons sent out sparatically are ordered to take out terrorist leaders and make house arrests. In Iraq's case, we're talking about a full pledged war - Armies against Armies. So basically dont compare war with Iraq to Somalia. Yet compare it to WWII or something that involves a super power.

In my opinion, this War is needed. Are we going to need another Pearl Harbor to realize that Saddam is repeating Hitler? How long will it be before Saddam crushes some little nation like hitler did the Rhine Land? Hes got to be stoped, and a bullet to his head will only worsen problems.

double post

Cause by BadScript. You Fucking Suck BadScript.

no one likes war simply lol thats hwy people are for war and against it stupid newb

Ok, I hear an idiot trying to talk.

Stfu homo.

stop talking to urslef newb.

Alrighteo NEWT angel: angel:

[quote="RL_Flipers":aeebb]Alrighteo NEWT angel: angel:[/quote:aeebb] danke aber deine newb

Your so worthless. You should go die. Faggot.

U.S Personnel were attacked AFTER the U.S decided to take out Aidid without discussing it with the Somalian government.

You Fucking GIT!

[quote="RL_Flipers":6fbd4]Your so worthless. You should go die. Faggot.[/quote:6fbd4] you'd like that wouldn't u, fucking sickos on these forums

US was in Somalia to provide relief to starving Somalians. Aidid attacks troops, regardless of who declares war on who first, the Aidid attacked US forces so it has no relevance. Attacking the US means the US can do anything it wants to the attackers, why would we consult the Somalia government? Its not much of their business.

Do you really think that the Government could do anything, the country was ripped by Warlords. Sometimes the country that is able must help countries that arent. Genocide should be our business, regardless of what country its in. If a country is doing something wrong (**cough**Holocaust**cough**), then it is our business to step in.

Are you fucking BRAINDEAD? Did you totally MISS what I said!? Fucking Imbecile. The U.S could have consulted the government, BEFORE it decided to send in the botched mission to take out Aidid (a la, Black Hawk Down).

Maybe the government could have done something, maybe not, the fact is, if you are going to do military operations in somebodies country, it is generally a good idea to consult the nation's GOVERNMENT on what is going on.
Do you think the Americans and the British, during WW2, just went into France, doing operations, without even involving the free-french that had made it across the channel....?

[quote:70406]Attacking the US means the US can do anything it wants to the attackers, why would we consult the Somalia government? Its not much of their business.[/quote:70406]

OF COURSE ITS THEIR FUCKING BUSINESS!!!!!! It's on THEIR fucking land, in THEIR fucking country.....But you keep ignoring the fact that I am talking about BEFORE the U.S were attacked...I was ALWAYS talking about before. That is what the big fucking bold text is for, that you seem to so conveniently ignore.

And by the way. That was one of the most retarded posts i have ever read. Ask a country before going in, when the people are the victim and the rulers are the bad guys. You think we needed to ask Hitler before stopping the Holocaust? You are a moron. Your fucking stupidity makes me want to kill something. Sometimes the government is the bad guy and the people (that cant make decisions) cant do anything about it.

it's not like the Somalian government could do anything about Aidid anyway, that's why we helped, because they needed it.

That is the past, this is about Iraq now. Stay on topic fellas

Hahahah! Are you gonna cry? I see a tear dripping down your cheek.

Why didn't you say all that before....? You seem to have thought their was a seperate government to Aidid's militia in Somalia in your other posts...

I knew fuck all about Somalia....I was just making argument out of what you posted, trying to piss you off.....Seems I have accomplished that feat.

HAHAHAH! - BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIATCH!

This just proves how dumb you are.

And you talked about somalia before me

ROFL! Tripper you own :)

And Juggernaught, who brought up the idea that there was a Somali Government? I mentioned WASHINGTON ala Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright, not confering with the US Commanders in Somalia about what the best course of action would be... Infact, not confering AT ALL as to what action would ultimately be taken...

So the US guys over in Somalia were fucked up by the US Government, I'll make that clear to you :)

Before October 3rd, were any US Soldiers killed by Somali Militia? I'm curious....

[quote="Von paulus":e9b2a]ROFL! Tripper you own :)

And Juggernaught, who brought up the idea that there was a Somali Government? I mentioned WASHINGTON ala Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright, not confering with the US Commanders in Somalia about what the best course of action would be... Infact, not confering AT ALL as to what action would ultimately be taken...

So the US guys over in Somalia were fucked up by the US Government, I'll make that clear to you :)

Before October 3rd, were any US Soldiers killed by Somali Militia? I'm curious.... [/quote:e9b2a]

.....And there it is....

Deal with that, Juuganaut, ya Trik-Ass BEEEEETCH!

of course these insults come from militant virgins.

[quote="Cool_Dude":1b50b]of course these insults come from militant virgins.[/quote:1b50b]

oOo:

[quote="Cool_Dude":8027e]of course these insults come from militant virgins[/quote:8027e]

Hah! Anyone that makes comments about virginity, and not getting sex to complete strangers is usually the one that doesn't get any. Mainly because the problem is in their head at the time of insult brainstorming.....i.e..:

"Man, I need to have sex, I'm a 30 year-old virgin with the brain of a 13 year old!....Hey! This guy insulted me...Hmmm, he doesn't get sex either!"