<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by b0n0:
Just dont play on cheat enabled servers. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Server Admins can't do a dang thing about it. The cheats everyone is talking about are totally client-side cheats. It doesn't matter if the server has enabled or disabled cheats. Anyone can cheat on any server, provided they know how to activate and use the MOHAA Console. Once they do that, they can do the God-Mode cheat and the Full Health cheat. 2015 needs to patch the demo quickly.

The only way to curently combat cheaters is to...

1. Have an admin kick them. (This only works, if the admin is actually there)

2. Call a vote and kick the offender by YES votes. (This can be done regardless of whether the admin is there or not)

Voting is easy to do, if you if download "Elvite's Kick Vote" in the mod section of this website. I created it, so that it will unlock the hidden voting features in the demo. Here is the link to the file, http://www.alliedassault.com/downloads/mods/Elvite's%20Voting%20Tools.zip . There is a README file included that explains how to use it. It's very easy to use. Be aware that in order to actually kick someone at least 50% of the people playing have to vote YES. So, find a group of people you like playing with and get them to also download the voting tools, if you want it to work. Might sound like a hassle at first, but it's worth it. There are already several servers out there where this is happening. Some even mention it in their Server Name. Here's a ficticious example... "JoeBobsFragland(w/ Vote Kick)", but I've seen them out there like that.

By the way, I frequent a server that has Friendly Fire on, so we also have to deal with Team Killers. It's not a problem anymore, because we can vote both cheaters and TK'ers easily.

i hope 2015 removes cheats and releases anti-cheat-patches if new cheats are beeing released. we all know what cheats can do to multiplayer games *thinking at counterstrike*

Just dont play on cheat enabled servers. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

For now I set sv_pure 1,sv_allowdownload 0,cheats 0,installed the voting "mod" and am on the server several times a day...and earlier I was following another player who was being accused of cheating..their health went from about 50 to 100...they did not pick up a health pack...and the cheat was done in front of me?
Hopefully the cheat will only work with the Demo and/or with the full game the administrators can easily ban players.

For now I set sv_pure 1,sv_allowdownload 0,cheats 0,installed the voting "mod" and am on the server several times a day...and earlier I was following another player who was being accused of cheating..their health went from about 50 to 100...they did not pick up a health pack...and the cheat was done in front of me?
Hopefully the cheat will only work with the Demo and/or with the full game the administrators can easily ban players.

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Owner and administrator of FragPuppys T1 [CPR] server ;)

btw how you like those [o2] servers pretty good eh

we might be getting more another t3 in about a month and another t1 in a month too

Up yours manny! While I've only recently registered for these boards, I've been in the MOHAA community since it's inception, I'm not trolling, just I avoid a lot of the immature gibberish that surrounds a lot of the conversations on here, MOHAA is a damn fine game, and I'm sick of people like you who would only serve to tarnish it's reputation! Don't believe I'm not a troll, watch for me, alliedassualt.net, ea.com, ve3d.com and so on, anything MOHAA related I'm there, CIAO, and may you rot if you do cheat!

On second thought, manny's not *that bad, I think I just took his negative slant on things the wrong way, I hope Senor Manny Calavera won't go towards the darkside, just remember how much more satisfying it is to really get a well earned kill http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by [o2] cable:
btw how you like those [o2] servers pretty good eh

we might be getting more another t3 in about a month and another t1 in a month too<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Matter of fact i Live 1 block from the CO and i get 1.49mb/s, I ping very good on them both. Was playing just now on the team dm... [o2]Morph was there... If yall want another member who will play alot and host alot among other things.. gimme a shout.

Since this cheat is clearly not a 3rd party hack or packet editing, I'm pretty confident 2015 with isolate and nix this one soon. Keep the faith guys.

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I was cannon fodder. :(

The sad fact of cheating paranoia (whether accurate or not) is that somewhere along the lines people will lose judgement of who is really cheating and who is just better than you.

I notice a few players accuse of cheating habitually when they are beaten, and I also notice on this thread a couple of players who have been kicked/banned because they had a good run and got accused of cheating.

If I ever get kicked because I'm suspected of cheating, then it's their loss. I won't play on that server again.

This God-mode cheat seems easy enough to check on. If someone is suspected of using it, go into spec mode and watch them play for a few rounds. Have blood mode on to be sure.

When they get hit, do they lose health, or do they suddenly gain health without having run over a health pack?

Pretty easy really.

Aimbots aren't too hard to spot through spectator, either, as the two aimbots I have seen (both through demos of another player using one) show clearly that the crosshair follows targets whether you can see them or not.

It's a dead give-away to see the player aiming at a wall, follow it to the end and see a target magically appear there. Consistently.

It's different from that same player hearing his enemy coming first and waiting with his crosshair at the corner for them to stick their head out. You don't have to hear a target to know they are coming either, you could have seen them go in one way, which means that eventually they will come out another.

Some people are clever enough to work this out through experience. Then again some others are equally clever and don't do the expected. It depends how you look at it.

Same goes for wall-hacking.

Snap-to-target over 100 degrees to a target you didn't previously see is also a dead give-away.

It's slightly different from flick-shooting, which is just spinning the mouse about fast to aim at a target. A bit like guessing with style, only if you practice it you can get quite good at it.

You still need to be aware of your target though. Aimbots take away the need for this awareness.

Usually, someone who cheats is a crap player and sticks out like a sore thumb, anyway.

All these cheats can be spotted in spec mode.

I've still yet to see one being used though.

A fix is underway. Yes you can in fact cheat on MP games, even without the SP cheats command line parameter.

For me it's like a government knowing that a nuke would explode in 3 days. People will figure it out eventually, but while we're working on it (ie get the bomb squad 2015 to fix it), we don't want to leak any word on that. And we are fairly sure that some CNN will let the cat out anytime anyway, as Innoxx did on this thread.

So, cheat IS possible, but not for long. And it has nothing to do with the server settings.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Thompson:
Try to think before accusing people to cheat. For example, i was on a server last night and i got a 12 / 0 score. The server host kicked me. Then i came back on the server to ask y and he said that was cause the hack i used sucks. Im not hacking !!! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/tongue.gif
If u are not good on a game and u meet a master, thats not because he cheat, thats because he is good, but I agree there are limits http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

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no, i mean four allied guys were just unloading on him at close range out in the open, and he didn't take any damage whatsoever. his name was ACE

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jools:
Since this cheat is clearly not a 3rd party hack or packet editing, I'm pretty confident 2015 with isolate and nix this one soon. Keep the faith guys.

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hey jools its LT.Spiers

Hmm, MP demo had lots of extra and useless textures and animations, didnt expect it to have cheats too...

Hullo Spiers ;p

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I was cannon fodder. :(

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Elvite:
Some even mention it in their Server Name. Here's a ficticious example... "JoeBobsFragland(w/ Vote Kick)", but I've seen them out there like that.

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I run "CruncHBery FF votekick" untill the children get out of school. Thank you for making this, everyone needs it.
Ive only used it once on a server to get rid of a spamming kiddie who was accusing my wife and I and several others who were killing him of cheating.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt_CruncH:
I play on the o2 server, i play with alot of o2 members.
I am talking about the people pinging 700+ that refuse to leave, thats all. And anyone using a cheat will be spoted easily by more then one person. Heck I just went on a 13-0 run and was accused of using godmode. Maybe it was my 13 ping. The voting tool makes it so on a non-hosted server, such as the o2 server thats up today, the users have a chance to get rid of cheaters, hella-laggers, and punk ass zit faced name callin kids.
And if you can deal with 250 ping, it dont bother me at all. I understand not everyone has access to a decent connection.

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yes this is good im sick of getting banned from servers just cause i dont have dsl or cable its horrible lol as if im not being punished enough by being on dialup in the first place.

I just got off a server where two ppl out of about 20 were most definately cheating. They were using god mode. It is so obvious when they take multiple rockets in the face etc. & don't die. I was giving the server admin a hard time telling him to turn cheats off. He asked me how & shiat, I didn't know what to tell him.. :

Surely there's a way to turn this crap off in the console isn't there?

I was doing some searching here on the web on this machine while I was still on the server so I could help him out, & found sv_cheats 0, but he tried it & it didnt seem to work.

If there is a command to do it what is it?

set sv_cheats 0?
seta sv_cheats 0?

I cannot believe there isnt a way. 2015 really fked up here bigtime if there isnt. If they're working on a patch, put a little one out asap to stop this shiit!!!

btw, these lamer's names were "god" & "undead_immortal". I'm sure they were too cowardly to be using their real nicks though.. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif

Just had to get it off my chest... It was a good server too other than that, wasnt dedicated but I'm not shittting the guy had over 20 people on there with hardly any lag.. Which is refreshing... What a shame.. Cheats.. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif

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#~ridin'_the_wire~0

Just got done with 2 games, both had cheaters with godmode http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif

This game is toast already.....

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ydiss:
I pity you guys. I've yet to see one example of cheating on any of the servers I've played on so far (and I play every day for at least 3 hours).

I know they exist, and I am sure I'll see it one day, but it seems you all witness it every other game.

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I just went to three different servers and every server had cheaters using the God mode.

This game had great potential, but now it's about to be ruined.

how do you get back into spectator mode once you join the in-game??

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big'O nutsacs:
how do you get back into spectator mode once you join the in-game??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hit escape and then click on spectator mode... I think.