Why thank you judas, never knew you cared. cry:

hahahahah!!!!!!!!!11 You are teh gay !!!

Multibinding is not a MOD it's a configuration. It has nothing to do with stock, unstock, or otherwise.
Good one..Some people think it's funny, some people think it's an advantage, some people like to annoy the weak cry baby types that cry over little things like lean-binding, some do it for shotgun rushing in hallways, and then there is me. I do it because I was the one that started it all. I'm just used to playing with this configuration now. And i still need to show my love.Aw.. you poor fucking little, can't aim for shit, baby.. Who gives a fuck if you have trouble aiming. Stop whining.. Seriously.. Think it's easy to aim when you lean every time you strafe? Try it..blah fucking blah blah.. I personally still use the lean buttons and I bind lean / strafe to one key.. But I still use the lean buttons to right myself in times of need. And i'm constantly using the lean buttons to stay in a leaning position.. You think it's tuff pressing a button to lean and a separate button to strafe? Try multibinding lean and strafe to one button and still using lean buttons to counteract thee affects.Cheap kills? I time my shots. I may be leaning.. But I only fire my weapon when your lame ass head is in my crosshair.That's your closing arguement? I need to do research? That doesn't make no sense. Research? I was the first to bind lean and strafe to one key. I've been called everything from a cheater to a gay man for doing this. I've had my share of research. Trust me.Thank you.. You find it easier w/o the multibind. W0rdemup to that.. I think that most crybabies would realize it IS alot easier to play without binding lean / strafe to one key. And I also think anyone that feels the need to point out how stupid it looks on a regular basis.. Thoughs type people just suck and use "he is multibinding" as an excuse to cover up the fact they can not aim.. IMO though.

[quote="Mr_nStuff":374c4]Multibinding is not a MOD it's a configuration. It has nothing to do with stock, unstock, or otherwise.
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I still disagree, but I will leave it at that.

I also think your points would carry more weight if you could make them with out slinging mud everywhere. This comment isnt directly aimed at you, it applies to everyone. I like a good ol' flaming as much as the next guy, but if you are going to call someone stupid, do it because they are stupid, not because they have a differing opinion.

[quote:f0d62]Good one.. [/quote:f0d62]

Indeed it was asshole.

[quote:f0d62]Some people think it's funny, some people think it's an advantage, some people like to annoy the weak cry baby types that cry over little things like lean-binding, some do it for shotgun rushing in hallways, and then there is me. I do it because I was the one that started it all. I'm just used to playing with this configuration now. And i still need to show my love.[/quote:f0d62]

Yeah sure "you" started it all, im really sure thats the way it happened. Sorry to tell ya kid but lean binding started about a day after the multiplayer demo for medal of honor was released, you didn't register here till 2 months after the game was released so id doubt very fucking much you even knew what medal of honor was up untill that point. Then again trying to claim credit for such a lame tactic is kinda gay anyway. oOo:


[quote:f0d62]Aw.. you poor fucking little, can't aim for shit, baby.. Who gives a fuck if you have trouble aiming. Stop whining.. Seriously.. Think it's easy to aim when you lean every time you strafe? Try it..[/quote:f0d62]

Actually it is easy to aim when leanin strafing, your view point is slightly changed to one of the sides depending where you are leaning but aside from that its the same principles that would apply even if you weren't leaning. As for "can't aim for shit".

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Thats says otherwise cocksucker, no lame ass leanbinding, just good sniping. Then again you're the guy that needs every gay ass advantage that he needs when he plays the game, what would you know about "good" gamplay. Retard. oOo:


[quote:f0d62]blah fucking blah blah.. I personally still use the lean buttons and I bind lean / strafe to one key.. But I still use the lean buttons to right myself in times of need. And i'm constantly using the lean buttons to stay in a leaning position.. You think it's tuff pressing a button to lean and a separate button to strafe? Try multibinding lean and strafe to one button and still using lean buttons to counteract thee affects. [/quote:f0d62]

Already tried lean binding and imo its not difficult to "counteract the effects". For the guy that supposodly pioneered (haha yeah right) this method of gayness you seem to be pretty pathetic at it.


[quote:f0d62]Cheap kills? I time my shots. I may be leaning.. But I only fire my weapon when your lame ass head is in my crosshair. [/quote:f0d62]

Sure ya do, and if someone is constantly hammering a&d with lean binding enabled timing your shots is 100x more of a pain than it should be especially if you're sniping. However for the leanbinder all they have to do is spray the area you're in with their smg or mg (oddly enough they always seem to use those 2 weapons, wonder why oOo: ) and theyre gonna do some damage or get a cheap kill.

[quote:f0d62]That's your closing arguement? I need to do research? That doesn't make no sense. Research? I was the first to bind lean and strafe to one key. I've been called everything from a cheater to a gay man for doing this. I've had my share of research. Trust me. [/quote:f0d62]

Again trying to claim credit for something "you discovered" AFTER the games release even though it was rampant in the first few days of the multiplayer demo. Yeah sure i believe you, millions wouldn't.

Yep the original argument was `is lean-binding considered cheating?"

Which the answer was NO but `lean-strafing` (which is different) IS in alot of ladders/leagues.

Also I tried to make clear that lean-binding was not the discussion it was lean-strafing, which is only possible by binding two functions to one key.

I lean-bind because I have a 5 button mouse, and its great, I even lean-bind on old games like Thief2 as it works great with this mouse.

I dont lean-strafe bind though because its not allowed in some ladders like ClanBase, just like binding lean + fire to a single key is not allowed.

I used ClanBase as an example because its a massive online gaming host which supports 10`s of games not just mohaa with over 40 seperate ladders. Its rules cleary state in mohaa that using extra console commands is not allowed in wars.

Im not saying its cheating or not globally just stating rules, thus answering that question. Providing evidence of this in an earlier post backed up my argument, rules are rules!

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Okay Im gonna put my 2 cents in on this.

I dont care if someone binds lean+strafe. They are just as dead as someone who dont.

It does make you look funny though.

I dont see it that much lately as I used to when I first started playing this game. I wonder why?

To nStuff your a pretty knowledgeable guy so why do you bring yourself down with name calling and swearing. I know you dont do this on TWL.

To Zoner - Tim Hortons XL DC biggrin:

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[quote="=FM=1st Lt prey":7a58f]I think its lame, its exactly the same as running the `dance` script in my eyes.

Binding two functions to one key allows a player to perform movements which regular players cant, without these binds, it gives an unfair advantage and by definition is cheating cry:[/quote:7a58f]


Exactly!!! I couldnt have said it any better. It makes me woozy watching it in spectator. oOo: I wish everyone would just hone thier skills instead of looking for unfair advantages. This game rocks without them. I HATE LEANERS!

I agree...and furthermore...
 

I agree with the general concensus that the leaners area bunch of unskilled fags, and it does give an advantage (fair or unfair is a matter of opinion) because it changes the hit area of the player model and I have heard (but not confirmed) that is makes the hit area smaller as well. I think that anyone who can play worth a shit shouldn't have to use lame ass "binds".

Another thing that is a very big annoyance to me is this realizm bullshit that is going around. In my opinion it's just another way for the unskilled out there to try to gain an advantage. Think about it..most realizm mods make the machine gun and the smg a quick kill in on or 2 hits. Doesn't that basically turn the machine gun and the smg into a rapid fire sniper rifle with no scope? The good part of mohaa is that there are strengths and weaknesses for each weapon, and if you can't learn to use that to your advantage, then you just suck in general. I learned to play mohaa by doing it at lan parties where you don't do gay shit like that or you'll get your ass whipped and then thrown out of the house, and I've gotten pretty damn good at playing real un-fagged-out mohaa. Try as they may, those who try to replace real skill with asshole tweaks are still at the bottom of the list when the map ends...and the ones with the skill are at the top. Differing opinions are welcome...just do it somewhere else...

Realism keeps you sharp biggrin:

I enjoy sniping the most and I agree that realism mods certainly lessen the effect of the sniper rifle, but they are far from redundant as anyone who plays against me will tell you through gritted teeth evil:

Realism Objective is the hardest mode as someone STG-whoring combined with camping makes attack nearly impossible. I dont enjoy levels like `V2` in realism because its just impossible for allied to win in this mode against a reasonable opponent.

Realism round/based is alot of fun though, and spend alot of time on these maps biggrin:

agreed cool:

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This sig is really nice! ^ biggrin:

EVERYONE WHO PLAYS THIS GAME WILL MOST LIKELY AGREE, IF IT WAS A CHEAT, EA WOULD NOT HAVE SET THE GAME UP TO BIND KEYS......... hake:

Actually, I don't agree
 

Just because EA designed the game to be able to bind keys together doesn't mean that the ability is not being exploited. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter if you do that in a game that I'm playing, because it's just going to make you look really fucking stupid oOo: before I blow your sorry ass away. fire2: It is very rare that I've actually seen someone with some real skill doing the lean-strafe thing...but I have noticed that they are usually at the bottom of the list after each map.

Re: Actually, I don't agree
 

[quote="[FAIL]Caleb":d2196]Just because EA designed the game to be able to bind keys together doesn't mean that the ability is not being exploited. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter if you do that in a game that I'm playing, because it's just going to make you look really fucking stupid oOo: before I blow your sorry ass away. fire2: It is very rare that I've actually seen someone with some real skill doing the lean-strafe thing...but I have noticed that they are usually at the bottom of the list after each map.[/quote:d2196]

we should meet then...perhaps when the am server is not locked down..heh

Sounds good to me
 

Maybe we can set up a clanwar between your clan and Clan[FAIL]? Do you even do straight mohaa (i.e. no lame ass realizm mods)?

i do it anyway and everyway hard and fast. i left the clan scene so im clanless but i know i can easily put together a few binders for such an event.

That'll work
 

we could do, say, 6 [FAIL] members against 6 people of your choice. We all have full time jobs, so we would have to plan this in advance on a weekend, but it sounds like fun. If your team can take Clan[FAIL] on a good few games, I would definitely have to reassess my views of those who use keybinds....I still think it looks like a really bad dance, though :)

by the way, I like the signature..

sure thing. I will find 5 others and then we can figure out the when of it all. Shouldnt take me a day or two and then I will post back here and we can work out the date/time at that point. Game on! :)

cool deal
 

I've already talked to a few clan members and they would definitely be up for it. I'll be talking to them about possible dates and we'll see what date works out for everyone

cool deal
 

I've already talked to a few clan members and they would definitely be up for it. I'll be talking to them about possible dates and we'll see what date works out for everyone

its easy to kill the lean binders their pelvis stays in one spot so you can just shoot them there biggrin: [/code]

[quote="Bullitt Tooth":cfdf5]its easy to kill the lean binders their pelvis stays in one spot so you can just shoot them there biggrin: [/code][/quote:cfdf5]

This is fine when you're using ann automatic weapon but a little tougher for rifles or the sniper as you are relying on hitting critical areas and the pelvis isn't one.

It can throw you when someone leanstrafes if you're going for a headshot, and to a lesser extent torso.

[quote=Ydiss] This is fine when you're using ann automatic weapon but a little tougher for rifles or the sniper as you are relying on hitting critical areas and the pelvis isn't one.

It can throw you when someone leanstrafes if you're going for a headshot, and to a lesser extent torso.[/quote:d0b40]

And I would add: In realism, very true. In non-realism, less true, because your leaning opponent has a bigger advantage (compared to realism, relatively), then.

Last night I was accused of being a binder. I am not. But I lean. And strafe. At the same time. Sometimes. Sometimes a lot. I like it. Problem? Not mine. Looks stupid? Maybe.

Lean-strafing cheating? As I said before: No. Lame though. Learn to handle your keyboard. Dance-scripts? Cheating. If you like dancing, learn how to dance using your keyboard.

I meant binding lean and strafe and what not to the one and the same key, of course...

Doesn't this topic get boring for people?

not really
 

There are some good points being made...and I have one more. you can lean-strafe all you want..the shotgun is very good for leaners, I've found.

Oh, and sorry for the double post.....I wasn't repeating myself..I just screwed up on that one