[quote="Cpt. Obvious":b21b9][quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":b21b9]The USA would win angel:

Whats the quote that Yamoto made during WWII about the Japanese invading the US??

Something about there would be a gun pointed at them from every bush.

Damn right you smelly bitches in Europe, you'd have to deal with us hillbilly rednecks who nearly have 10-15 guns in EACH household, lol.[/quote:b21b9]
So we would win the war because of west virginia. cool:[/quote:b21b9]

can inbreds shoot well?

[quote=Pyro][quote="Cpt. Obvious":ebfb7]So we would win the war because of west virginia. cool:[/quote:ebfb7]

can inbreds shoot well?[/quote:ebfb7]

are you kidding, tgat's what they do best (well that and drinking moonshine)

and here come the incest jokes

They get distracted by their sister/wife/aunt/daughter walking by.

*puts on hockey helmet* CHARGE!!!!

Yes indeed Pyro.

Europe wouldn't stand a chance in the DEEP south. There are special forces there codenamed "Rednecks". Don't know how the name came to be.

Being serious, YES they can shoot very well. During the Civil War, they were known to be better shots. Not to mention I can say firsthand they are. I grew up in the South and kids learned how to shot rabbits at age 4-5, not kidding.

Bypass the rednecks, take over Washington D.C. without them. Since the Rednecks know nothing of military tactics, they'll try a retarded defensive and get destroyed.

Sounds like a good movie. Someone should make one where the Russians invade America and then run into redneck country or get shot 2 shyt by the Gangsters in Chicago.

All the gangsters in Chicago are just fat italians that do nothing except launder money. No more cool Tommy gun killings or anything. I miss the 30's.

I still don't see how one country can beat an entire continent...

There would be a huge draft.

Still, that wouldn't work. Europe would win, end of story. It's never going to happen ,everybody dance now and so on.

[quote="Cpt. Obvious":2ca45]There would be a huge draft.[/quote:2ca45]

Your name explains it all...

the USA would win, i mean when you got people in the national gaurd like bazooka joe you cant loose. he would sneak into the enemy barraks and ummm put locks on all their guns fire1:

[quote="White Rabbit":35272]the USA would win, i mean when you got people in the national gaurd like bazooka joe you cant loose. he would sneak into the enemy barraks and ummm put locks on all their guns fire1:[/quote:35272]

and talk them to death biggrin:

Just have all the local sluts do their work... and have them cut their johnsons off when they aren't lookin cool:

[quote="Simo Häyhä":1ce3c]IM A SHIT STIRRING FUCKTARD WHO THINKS HE CAN HACK DURR DURRRR.[/quote:1ce3c]
hmmm nice edit gerard biggrin: go kiss a glock

the matchup in weapons and numbers sounds pretty even when you take into acoount America's nasty secret weapons (stealth bombers, Aegis missiles, other nasty shit like that) but the US also has 4 mothballed carriers and a shitload of mothballed planes.

Europe would not just one day say "look US, we don't like you so we're declaring war", there would be a long term development of events, plenty of time to get good quality ships and planes out of mothballs and train enough pilots/sailors.


but realistically speaking I think there need to be more specifics before we can even begin to argue. For example, the idea of all of Europe agreeing to attack the US is not very likely (even the Allies in WWII were hard pressed to stay friendly to each other, if not for FDR we would be screwed).
It is much more logical to say that the EU would be involved in a future war with the US. From reading material on a politics forum I have learned that the new EU constitution does everything but actually say that individual members have no sovereignty, so EU is likely to be the next big bad dictator state, like Nazi Germany and the USSR.

By some extension of the imagination I can see the US and EU getting in a trade war in the future (a sort of Euro vs. Dollar thing) which could lead to a shooting war. It is rather hard to determine who the UK, Russia, Commonwealth states, and Asian states would side with. After the war with Iraq it seems that the US is trying to be more friendly with Russia, relations with Germany and France are still rarther cold.

The war will most likely be about which economy will sustain the longest. A massive war like this will have severe effects on the US/EU currency. This nations/continent requires imports greatly such as oil and materials. If the currecy drops things will be more expensive therefore resulting in inflation and such. The governmnets will go bankrupt whilst the nations not involved in the war will go rich from the massive exports they are selling. In the end the real winners will be the Rogue Nations as they can advance in power without foregin troops intervening. China will probably also benefit. The government will probably say "Look at those suckers draining their money and manpower. Now its our turn to be the economic powerhouse."

Well the U.S. of course! First France would surrender before a shot was fired, then England and Ireland would see that they had rather be friends with the U.S. than Europe so they would join us, and Canada would supply us with lumberjacks and syrup so we would be fine there. Germany would be to intrested in taking over Europe after the war that they would confuse their Europe battle plans with the ones againts America and end up destroying themselves. Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Russia would make it about as far as Iceland when they started shooting each other becuase they where drunk on Russian Vodka. Poland would get ran over in the race to build up armies, and those other little states in Europe wuld sit it out and then try to take, over. In the end the U.S. would be even more powerful and Europe would be ran by Luxembourg.

Just kidding, I do not knwo who would

Add also, NZSAS, STG, and Aussie SAS.

Of course, but they aren't in Europe biggrin:

This is a bit of a no-debate as there is no way to compare a continent with a single nation.

It's all very well when you have even team numbers (Ryder Cup, ahem) but when you compare unequal entities like military forces you start entering a logistical, statistical and, to be frank utterly pointless nightmare of a debate. Basically, most "facts" that people will come up with here (if they aren't numbers based) will be purely guesses.

The US military (combined) is the most powerful fighting force on the planet, but largely due to the fact that they have the most money to spend on it. But then take 10 of the finest and well equiped fighters in the world and tell them to go fight 500 poorly equiped, but fierce fighters and I know who I'd put my money on.

Now, comparing Navy Seals and SAS, or US Marines and British Royal Marines would be more interesting and a bit more balanced.

It'd pretty scary stuff putting a group of those men in a small building together (especially the special forces) and telling them the other lot called them bad names.

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":dd09b]Sounds like a good movie. Someone should make one where the Russians invade America and then run into redneck country or get shot 2 shyt by the Gangsters in Chicago.[/quote:dd09b]

I was born and raised in chicago, still live here, and i dont appreciate your slanderious stereotypical remarks about my beloved city.

I was born and raised in chicago, still live here, and i dont appreciate your slanderious stereotypical remarks about my beloved city.

hake:

It would be a war of annihilation, therefore the side with the largest population would win, Europe would win but at a terrible cost. It would be like Germany's invasion of Russia, unless it was quick and swift, if it dragged out over a long period of time the Europeans would win.

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":66441]Well the U.S. of course! First France would surrender before a shot was fired, then England and Ireland would see that they had rather be friends with the U.S. than Europe so they would join us, and Canada would supply us with lumberjacks and syrup so we would be fine there. Germany would be to intrested in taking over Europe after the war that they would confuse their Europe battle plans with the ones againts America and end up destroying themselves. Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Russia would make it about as far as Iceland when they started shooting each other becuase they where drunk on Russian Vodka. Poland would get ran over in the race to build up armies, and those other little states in Europe wuld sit it out and then try to take, over. In the end the U.S. would be even more powerful and Europe would be ran by Luxembourg.

Just kidding, I do not knwo who would[/quote:66441]

ahahahahaha that was pure gold biggrin:

Dunno who would win, im from UK but hope USA would win cus Europe sucks ass

[quote="|ANIMAL| 1SG Jaybird":dab74][quote="Fluffy_Bunny":dab74]Sounds like a good movie. Someone should make one where the Russians invade America and then run into redneck country or get shot 2 shyt by the Gangsters in Chicago.[/quote:dab74]

I was born and raised in chicago, still live here, and i dont appreciate your slanderious stereotypical remarks about my beloved city.



hake:[/quote:dab74]

I take it you've never seen Rocketeer. Aren't the Soprano's also from Chicago?

[quote="=FM=1st Lt prey":698a4]Dunno who would win, im from UK but hope USA would win cus Europe sucks ass[/quote:698a4]

Some Brits still deny being European hehe.

About this hypothetical conflict:

Interesting to see how some think Europe will invade the USA, and some think the opposite. As it is now, Europe (EU) lacks coherence to invade the USA. So, most likely (if such a probability even exists), the USA will start the war. And that is why they will loose. In the end.

Also interesting: What will happen after the war? Controlling over 300 million Europeans will not be easy. Certainly not if you take Asia in account. Will China strengthen their bonds with Europe or with America. Chances are it will be the former. Goes for many other nations as well. What will happen to the US' economy? It will collapse. Remember: America is spending far more than it produces per year (other nations' investments make this possible). No money is no army. Is no food. Et cetera.

This is only one argument, there are many more. Only viewing the military side of this conflict is far too hypothetical. Trying to take all variables in account is far too difficult. There are just too many.

So, my conclusion:

The bad boys will loose, in the end. Just like Germany lost in WWII. Just like the Roman empire collapsed.

About this topic: At first I thought 'damn, another nonsense-topic'. And although it still is nonsense, I enjoyed the read, biggrin:

[quote="Office Depot":b8b98]Simo don't do that, I don't want this locked. Let's just have a nice debate about the military capacities of both the United States and Europe.[/quote:b8b98]

Says the man with the buttseckz sig..... Anyway....

Yeah, I gotta admit, Europe would probably win....... But not with a good fight. But you're all forgetting that the U.S would get allies, although not many. One country can't beat a friggin continent. It would be a good war of battle and a-sneekiness evil: . After Europe defeated USA they would take it over and like, rename it Franglandermanyrussiolandland.

I should think that invasion from either side would be far fetched, since either side can easily maintain local air superiority (all they have to do is zoom in, waste the tankers, and zoom out, all the other planes won't have the range to cross the Atlantic, except for heavy bombers without escort).

the US does have the stealth trump card, which can theoretically fly in and blow away enemy airfields before they know what's happening. (can anyone give me reliable numbers on the number of B-2s we have?) Each B-2 can carry 16 JDAMs or JSOWs, which is bad news for anyone.

Nevermind the rest of Europe, I think at two down, Germany has a lot to play for...
world domination is not out of their grasp, and at the end of the day, a third provocation
of total war may well see a reversal of fortune for the hapless Kraut side.

Maybe if all of Europe attacked yes they might win but if like only a couple of countrys would i dont think so.

whoever is defending in this war will win. the attackers will be bogged down crossing the atlantic

Dont you think Japan and china would attack us as well . eek:

it said europe vrs usa...unless you think japan and china are in europe eek:

and dont you think they would join the fight as well. War just doesnt effect two countries it effects them all.

Blow each other the hell up and leave the world to Australia, and take those friggin Muslims extremists with ya too.

I gotta ask this. Whats the point of this thread ? We are all Allies, so why ? Either way, if it happened, I'd want the US to win, I can't stand those fuckin Eurotrash shits.

To be perfectly honest, you are putting 1 country against an entire region/continent, made up of multiple countries, with billions of people, which is just stupid. In the end, if the United States flexed it's muscle completely it would decimate quite a number, if not most, of the countries hostile toward them. There is no doubt about that. Besides, theoritically, if any of the European nations HAD any balls, they would have done something more instead of political gnashing of their teeth as far as the war in Iraq was concerned. Europe would'nt have the heart or guts to wage a war against the US, not to mention the budget.

England, Australia, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Israel....just a few countries that are allies with the US with capable and ready defence forces. I read somewhere, that this years US Military budget was 365.1 Billion dollars, perhaps more. The closest any country could get was in the 100 Billions, and that number was listed under "Allies" meaning multiple countries. None of us have any idea of the unrestrained power of the US Military, so dont even try and comprehend it, because with a budget like that, they must have an awful lot of shit, that makes big bangs, bright flashes, and leaves alot of people dead in the wake.

And if anybody thinks what the States sent to Iraq is all they have, you aint seen nothin'.

[quote="|ANIMAL| 1SG Jaybird":be1fd][quote="Fluffy_Bunny":be1fd]Sounds like a good movie. Someone should make one where the Russians invade America and then run into redneck country or get shot 2 shyt by the Gangsters in Chicago.[/quote:be1fd]

I was born and raised in chicago, still live here, and i dont appreciate your slanderious stereotypical remarks about my beloved city.

I was born and raised in chicago, still live here, and i dont appreciate your slanderious stereotypical remarks about my beloved city.

hake:[/quote:be1fd]

The first commented on a theoretical movie.

The second commented on Gangsters.

I still don't see the part that slanders your city...

If you're a Gangster or a movie critic then perhaps you could sue?

Depends on what way a war can benefit them. Like anything else they have to weigh the possible loses against the possible gains.

Maybe but if Europe goes to war with us they must have a good reason. And also other countries might allied with them againts us.

good point, Japan sells us a lot of stuff and many Chinese are employed in US companies, the fall of the US would bring uncertainty, Europeans might be more willing to give the labor opportunities to the less advanced European nations or Africa (which is closer and has former colonial ties)

So Japan and China stand to suffer if the US loses.