I've already explained why I'm opposed to gay marriages, and it has no relation to what you just said. I do not hate gay people or "fear" them.

[quote="Old Reliable":69a36]So, you're all for being against gays and lesbians adopting kids while you are for hetero couples overpopulating the world in 8% growth in asia? Overpopulation is more of a concern than gays offending you annoy:[/quote:69a36]

thats why they invented wars, slavery, and genocide biggrin:

[quote=Madmartagen]Thats right. Now tell me why it isn't as important for a gay couple as it is for a straight couple.[/quote:5e93a]

Of course it's important to them, but that is not the issue. A "gay marriage" would be in total contrast to what marriage is.

[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":edf4f]Thats gay....
Why would anyone want to be gay, or lesbian???? I mean its so stupid, there no point in it. Its unnatural which make gays unnatural. I mean whats the motive?????

If the world starts accepting same-sex people its going to eventually be thought of as no different the have different sex marrages and eventually it will become so comon that no one cares and ppl will start to think it is natural, when it isnt, its just sick!!!! All of this will cause a loss of population.

Marrage is not about love, like ppl think, I mean it kinda is for the 2 that are getting married, but I dont give a shit who anyone here marries just as long as theyre capable of making children so the human species lives on. All gays will do is threaten the survival of human kind and can ptentially in the long run be a danger, a risk.


Gays and Lesbians should NOT be allowed, it is sick and unnatural.


And several STD's have been formed by gay sex....so those gay guys are considered murders to me because all these dang STD'd running around kill millions of ppl. And for every STD that is formed just adds up on the number of humans that die.[/quote:edf4f]

Just because you don't understand it, doesnt mean you can tell someone they have to stop being who they are. This is another situation in which people have differant lifestyles than others.
What about straight couples who cant have children? They are still allowed to get married, but they arent capable of procreating. There isnt a problem of humans losing population, right now we have a problem of overpopulation. STDs are created and spread by straight people as well, so I dont see how gays can be considered murderers.

[quote="SW-14":d2194][quote=Madmartagen]Thats right. Now tell me why it isn't as important for a gay couple as it is for a straight couple.[/quote:d2194]

Of course it's important to them, but that is not the issue. A "gay marriage" would be in total contrast to what marriage is.[/quote:d2194]

It appears to be in contrast to what you think marriage is. To me, marriage is a bond between two people who love eachother. To you, marriage is a bond between a man and woman who love eachother. So I guess you could say we have a technicality issue.

[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":24f9a]Thats gay....
Why would anyone want to be gay, or lesbian???? I mean its so stupid, there no point in it. Its unnatural which make gays unnatural. I mean whats the motive?????

If the world starts accepting same-sex people its going to eventually be thought of as no different the have different sex marrages and eventually it will become so comon that no one cares and ppl will start to think it is natural, when it isnt, its just sick!!!! All of this will cause a loss of population.

Marrage is not about love, like ppl think, I mean it kinda is for the 2 that are getting married, but I dont give a shit who anyone here marries just as long as theyre capable of making children so the human species lives on. All gays will do is threaten the survival of human kind and can ptentially in the long run be a danger, a risk.


Gays and Lesbians should NOT be allowed, it is sick and unnatural.


And several STD's have been formed by gay sex....so those gay guys are considered murders to me because all these dang STD'd running around kill millions of ppl. And for every STD that is formed just adds up on the number of humans that die.[/quote:24f9a]


Do you see a statistic showing that married couples spread STD's more than un-married couples? No. You helped prove my point. If gays are allowed to be married, they will be given more responsibilities.

As for threatening the human race? I think wars and overpopulation do that more than allowing gay marriages....

By they way you failed to answer my question on marriage, try again

[quote="SW-14":61ca8][quote=Madmartagen]Thats right. Now tell me why it isn't as important for a gay couple as it is for a straight couple.[/quote:61ca8]

Of course it's important to them, but that is not the issue. A "gay marriage" would be in total contrast to what marriage is.[/quote:61ca8]

Spill the beans, what is marriage then?

dude old reliable your only so liberal in your views because you live in michigan, i bet thers not hardly any faggets or other minorities for that matter where you live so you don't have to deal with them, its quite diferent for those of us who have to live with this shit crammed down our throats by people who think there being "morale".

[quote=Madmartagen][quote="SW-14":6daa1]Of course it's important to them, but that is not the issue. A "gay marriage" would be in total contrast to what marriage is.[/quote:6daa1]

It appears to be in contrast to what you think marriage is. To me, marriage is a bond between two people who love eachother. To you, marriage is a bond between a man and woman who love eachother. So I guess you could say we have a technicality issue.[/quote:6daa1]

Perhaps, but every dictionary I can find defines it as "The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife." Not to mention the whole "thousands of years" tradition thing we've got going.

it doesn't matter about the thousand years thing, US has only been a country for just over 200. that's what a legislature is for too, to possibly make amendments and pass bills to make change in the country. if we don't progress through the changing times, they will force us to. it's only a matter of time...... oh and by the way i live on a college campus where you get a wide variety of weird people

[quote="Cpl. Eames":65970]dude old reliable your only so liberal in your views because you live in michigan, i bet thers not hardly any faggets or other minorities for that matter where you live so you don't have to deal with them, its quite diferent for those of us who have to live with this shit crammed down our throats by people who think there being "morale".[/quote:65970]

Why the fuck do you even post in this thread, you dont offer any real opinions or any form of intelligent thinking. All you do is call someone a faggot or a liberal and just talk out of your ass to hear yourself talk. What shit do you have to have crammed down your throat? No one is telling you that you have to do anything, so there is nothing to deal with. If this were 1962, you would be saying the same thing about African Americans, and how its immoral to let them eat at a counter, or sit on a bus. Shut the fuck up already and get some education.

First of all, I'll say that I'm against it. Everyone's morales are different so
it's not worth debating here. There is one aspect that no one here has brought up. This may not apply to Canada or other countries but it sure as hell would affect the US financially. Certain rights come with that "piece of paper" as Old called it. Take for instance the small business owner that has
to provide insurance for his employees. His insurance policy covers wokers and their families. If gay marriage is legally recognized, he is also burdened with covering the partener in a gay relationship. That may not sound like much , but you do it a million times over and it begins to show up economically. You could anticipate hospital charges increasing and being passed on to the patients due to the extra coverage costs of these parteners. What about the high incidence of aids in the gay community. Those extra costs will be passed on as well. Those are just a few examples of how wide spread legalization of gay marriages could impact us economically rolleyes:

[quote=Madmartagen]Why the fuck do you even post in this thread, you dont offer any real opinions or any form of intelligent thinking. All you do is call someone a faggot or a liberal and just talk out of your ass to hear yourself talk. What shit do you have to have crammed down your throat? No one is telling you that you have to do anything, so there is nothing to deal with. If this were 1962, you would be saying the same thing about African Americans, and how its immoral to let them eat at a counter, or sit on a bus. Shut the fuck up already and get some education.[/quote:cd9ab]

because i dont believe in the same "multi cultural" love everybody bs that you do that means i have no education? Typical liberal elitist attitude hake: as for this not being something shoved down our throats, if the majority of people in the nation are against gay marriages, why should they be leagal? To clear the consense of a few liberal elitist? Stuff like this should be decided by the VOTERS not some fucking liberal judge in fucking massachusettes.

just to piss all the religious people off,
here's a short list of all the trouble religion has caused in the past couple millenia:

countless wars based on religious grounds,
spanish inquisition,
witch hunts,
constant resistance to scientific advance,
keeps people ignorant and intolerant

therefore religion is against my morals

It is decided by the voters moron.......you elect the judges, and then the judges pass the decision

[quote="Old Reliable":0209d]It is decided by the voters moron.......you elect the judges, and then the judges pass the decision[/quote:0209d]

No one votes for federal judges you fucking dipshit, they are apointed. And even if they were "elected" one person should not have the power to decide on this, and make his decision the one for the whole nation, it should be left up to the states to decide whether or not to ban gay marriages or not, if they want to let faggets get married in massachusettes...fine, there marriage would only be recognized in massachussets, not anywhere else.

[quote="Old Reliable":15d20]oh, first of all, we must define marriage[/quote:15d20]

wtf kind of shit it that?


The legal union of a "man and woman" as husband and wife.
The state of being married; wedlock.
A common-law marriage.
A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage.

[quote="Old Reliable":c3bbf]So, you're all for being against gays and lesbians adopting kids while you are for hetero couples overpopulating the world in 8% growth in asia? Overpopulation is more of a concern than gays offending you annoy:[/quote:c3bbf]

LOL! Hetero or not ... Wont it still be overpopulated if same sex marriages are legal ?

Who the hell says the majority of Americans are against gay marriages? I think the rate is about 50/50, so there isnt a majority there. How can you compromise a 50/50 vote? In this case you can't, but you can be fair. Let each state decide its own course of action. I bet in the next 25 years, each and every state will have gay marriages. If it doesnt affect you, then why else would you be so passionately against it? Its because youre a dick head.

[quote="Cpl. Eames":69aba][quote="Old Reliable":69aba]It is decided by the voters moron.......you elect the judges, and then the judges pass the decision[/quote:69aba]

No one votes for federal judges you fucking dipshit, they are apointed. And even if they were "elected" one person should not have the power to decide on this, and make his decision the one for the whole nation, it should be left up to the states to decide whether or not to ban gay marriages or not, if they want to let faggets get married in massachusettes...fine, there marriage would only be recognized in massachussets, not anywhere else.[/quote:69aba]

so what should we call your new form of political ideals, national socialism?

[quote=Judas]wtf kind of shit it that?


The legal union of a "man and woman" as husband and wife.
The state of being married; wedlock.
A common-law marriage.
A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage.[/quote:a0c2e]

ah such a conservative dictionary, take it from george bush's pocket? I think we shouldn't allow men and women to be married, what do you think of that?

it's no use arguing with people over the internet cuz you can't read their facial expressions or come to reason with them, its always going to end in the same way. i gotta do a fuckload of homework anyways. i can see this being locked in the morning, lol

same sex marriges= more gay pr0n
meh.
i say let em

50/50? thats why 38 outta the 50 states in the union have amended there constitutions to ban gay marriage and "civil unions" I'm no math genius...but that sure as hell aint 50/50 on the issue, just as massachusetts legalized gay marriage iowa recently banned it. And yes gay marriages do affect me, like I have already said legalized gay marriage will destroy what little is left of american morality. legalized gay marriage will destroy the traditional family by serving as a precedent for other sicko's to use to get their perverted wishes legalized (ie poligomy) it will turn the sacred vowes of marriage into a joke, destroying marriage and the family...thats how it affects me.

gayest thread ever...

abc

people use think that blacks should have no rights at all
people use to think that women should have no rights at all

even the thought of the way they use to think back then seems crazy, and im sure in about 10-20 years from now everyone will think in a diferent way about gay marriages.



I think its retarded that the US is run by religion, religion has caused so many problems and it bring on so much hate, and i think its sad that some people dont see that.

This all boils down to religion and all that good stuff.

The main source of conflict - for me, anyway - is much like SW-14's. Marriage is something that was defined by Judaism, and later expounded upon in the Christian Bible. Two men claiming to be "married" is a blatant slap in the face to anyone who upholds either of those religions, or even Islam.

The same liberal fucknuts who are telling us we need to change our ways to be more accomodating to Muslims are holding Christians by the nuts with their other hand. It just seems very hypocritical to me, which is typical of the leftists in this country.

If they want to have "civil unions" or what the fuck ever, go ahead and let them. As far as my beliefs go, they'll end up in Hell anyway. I'm not ashamed to be a Christian and I'm not ashamed of my beliefs. Seems like some of you are.

Anyway, I don't care what the hell they do, but don't call it marriage.

How could someone hate gays, and not lesbians? Little hypocritical. (Not referring to anyone, just a question.)

I don't really give two shits. I don't believe it will effect the sanity (or whatever) of marriage, destroying familys or whatever. But I do think people should be free to do whatever they want, within reason of course.

oh hell, lets just be politically correct and stop refering to them as gays
but call them heterosexually challanged oOo:

lmao... vaginaphobic

all bumboys need to pack bags and go home to canada.

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":f4692]all bumboys need to pack bags and go home to canada.[/quote:f4692]

good one..... NOT...

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":1ea6d]all bumboys need to pack bags and go home to canada.[/quote:1ea6d]

looks like somebodys still in the closet

yes 1080jibber i am in your closet with an axe and i am going to smash your fat canadian skull in when you get home from a date with your gay canadian loverman.

I feel the anger in you and beneath that anger is a gay person trying to come out. But you don’t want that person to come out so you hide it with hate and pretend it will go away. But it will never go away and one day you will finally break down and come out of that “closet”.

[quote="Cpl. Eames":11a6f]dude old reliable your only so liberal in your views because you live in michigan, i bet thers not hardly any faggets or other minorities for that matter where you live so you don't have to deal with them, its quite diferent for those of us who have to live with this shit crammed down our throats by people who think there being "morale".[/quote:11a6f]

great, i'm moving to florida this year....


Personally, i'm against it, but i could care less if they get married. What bothers me, is seeing two guys kissing etc. To me it's sick, like some of you said, marriage is something important between a man and a woman. more of a religious thing...Now most of the religions are against gays, so meh.

That's even better biggrin:

Homosexuality and even lesbian sex is un-natural. There is no point to it and I DONT AGREE WITH IT. Fuck them and thier lifestyle, I can't believe society now a days. THERE IS NO POINT in sticking your dick in another mans ass, and the same with strapping on a dildo and sticking it inside a woman if you're a lesbian. That is totally un-natural and there is really no point to it. Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

More power to Bush because I don't want to watch faggots kissing in the mall, or have my kids watch that sick shit. ALLOT of people don't agree with it but "accept" it. But don't go out and force this shit on people.

What's next? Marriage between an animal, or a non-living thing? Better yet, let's legalise child porn! rolleyes:

Actually:

[quote:4b8da]9yo girl marries dog
From correspondents in New Delhi
June 18, 2003

A NINE-year-old girl was married off to a dog in the presence of more than 100 people in eastern India under a tribal custom to protect the child from evil, a report said today.

Karnamoni Hasda wedded the street dog last week in West Bengal state's Hooghly district in a common practice among the Santhal tribe, the Press Trust of India news agency said, quoting local officials.

According to Santhal belief, if a child's first tooth appears on the upper gum he or she is in grave danger that can only be warded off by a marriage with man's best friend. The child can remarry a human after growing up.

The report said Karnamoni's canine marriage did not take place immediately after her first tooth appeared because her father's financial problems did not allow for a wedding at the time.
[/quote:4b8da]

And:

[quote:4b8da]Nepalese man marries dog to ensure luck - and then dies






KATHMANDU : A 75-year-old man in Nepal married a dog in a local custom to ensure good luck only to die three days later, a newspaper reported on Wednesday.

With his son and other relatives by his side, Phulram Chaudhary tied the knot with a dog Saturday in Durgauli village in the southwestern Kailali district.

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He was following a custom of his Tharu community which holds that an old man who regrows teeth must take a dog as a bride.

"He believed that this would help him avoid great misfortune later in life.

However, he died a few days afterward," the state-run daily Gorkhapatra said. - CNA


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