We've been fucked since before Clinton left office. What we really need is a genuine leader that the entire country can rally behind.

Problem is, that won't happen any time soon.

The one possible good that would come from Kerry being elected is that it would stall Hillary from running for office for another 8 years.

I wish Hillary Clinton nothing but death. That bitch currently lives in my state.

a few years ago the clintons were going to buy the house 5 houses down from mine, what hell that could have been.

[quote="Sgt. Paine":5e3a7]a few years ago the clintons were going to buy the house 5 houses down from mine, what hell that could have been.[/quote:5e3a7]

I hope they both die in a Kennedy esque fashion. Nothing but cunts all around. especially hillary.

[quote=Noctis]You know, every time you talk, it's like you copy and paste shit from the PunkVoter and MoveOn.org message boards. Why don't you try and formulate some of your own opinions instead of just spewing out the same tired bullshit rederick that all the "cool" suburban rebels are feeding you.

So fucking sick and tired of all these white, upper-middle class dumbfucks who have nothing better to do than masturbate to Anti-Bush propaganda and march in anti-Bush rallies when they don't even have a God damned idea of what they are talking about.

John Kerry does NOT have the answers. He is going to raise taxes - and forget everything he says about not raising them, because that's bullshit. He is promising to spend over $3 trillion, eliminate the defecit and pay for all of it with a few hundred million by repealing upper-class tax cuts. It's the same bullshit Clinton pulled. Next thing you know, we get two raises in taxes beyond inflation rates while he is in office.

So you retards keep marching in your little parades and failing out of your Economics 101 courses. And when Kerry raises taxes, and when he has no explosion from the Tech Sector and the Dot Com Boom to cover his ass like Clinton did, and the stock market crashes and we go into a REAL recession and don't recover, I'll sit here and laugh at you prissy little prats who got your panties all in a wad because Bush wanted to drill in Alaska and knock out Iraq. And I'll keep laughing when your mommy and daddy have to sell your car and move you into a flat in the city because daddy got laid off from his meaningless middle-management job after Kerry tanked the economy. But don't worry, he made sure to put all your hard-earned tax money into making sure retards like you that voted for him can get food stamps and government-subsidized healthcare.

And fuck Canadians who get up in our domestic business. This is our house, you speak when spoken to.

cuss:[/quote:fd0cc]

i have never read a single article from either site. rolleyes:

[quote=MrLevinstein]I hope they both die in a Kennedy esque fashion. Nothing but cunts all around. especially hillary.[/quote:ecba1]

Foword this to the FBI the_finger: seeya in "pound me in the ass" prison

[quote=1080jibber]Foword this to the FBI the_finger: seeya in "pound me in the ass" prison[/quote:4da3d]

You can get arrested for saying I hope someone dies? Hmmm What a world

If Im going to a prison I hope youre there too, fat ass.

[quote=Noctis]You know, every time you talk, it's like you copy and paste shit from the PunkVoter and MoveOn.org message boards. Why don't you try and formulate some of your own opinions instead of just spewing out the same tired bullshit rederick that all the "cool" suburban rebels are feeding you.

So fucking sick and tired of all these white, upper-middle class dumbfucks who have nothing better to do than masturbate to Anti-Bush propaganda and march in anti-Bush rallies when they don't even have a God damned idea of what they are talking about.

John Kerry does NOT have the answers. He is going to raise taxes - and forget everything he says about not raising them, because that's bullshit. He is promising to spend over $3 trillion, eliminate the defecit and pay for all of it with a few hundred million by repealing upper-class tax cuts. It's the same bullshit Clinton pulled. Next thing you know, we get two raises in taxes beyond inflation rates while he is in office.

So you retards keep marching in your little parades and failing out of your Economics 101 courses. And when Kerry raises taxes, and when he has no explosion from the Tech Sector and the Dot Com Boom to cover his ass like Clinton did, and the stock market crashes and we go into a REAL recession and don't recover, I'll sit here and laugh at you prissy little prats who got your panties all in a wad because Bush wanted to drill in Alaska and knock out Iraq. And I'll keep laughing when your mommy and daddy have to sell your car and move you into a flat in the city because daddy got laid off from his meaningless middle-management job after Kerry tanked the economy. But don't worry, he made sure to put all your hard-earned tax money into making sure retards like you that voted for him can get food stamps and government-subsidized healthcare.

And fuck Canadians who get up in our domestic business. This is our house, you speak when spoken to.

cuss:[/quote:fb20c]

ahhahahahah happy:

what if your canadian but live in usa? (ex: me)

[quote=Noctis]You know, every time you talk, it's like you copy and paste shit from the PunkVoter and MoveOn.org message boards. Why don't you try and formulate some of your own opinions instead of just spewing out the same tired bullshit rederick that all the "cool" suburban rebels are feeding you.

So fucking sick and tired of all these white, upper-middle class dumbfucks who have nothing better to do than masturbate to Anti-Bush propaganda and march in anti-Bush rallies when they don't even have a God damned idea of what they are talking about.

John Kerry does NOT have the answers. He is going to raise taxes - and forget everything he says about not raising them, because that's bullshit. He is promising to spend over $3 trillion, eliminate the defecit and pay for all of it with a few hundred million by repealing upper-class tax cuts. It's the same bullshit Clinton pulled. Next thing you know, we get two raises in taxes beyond inflation rates while he is in office.

So you retards keep marching in your little parades and failing out of your Economics 101 courses. And when Kerry raises taxes, and when he has no explosion from the Tech Sector and the Dot Com Boom to cover his ass like Clinton did, and the stock market crashes and we go into a REAL recession and don't recover, I'll sit here and laugh at you prissy little prats who got your panties all in a wad because Bush wanted to drill in Alaska and knock out Iraq. And I'll keep laughing when your mommy and daddy have to sell your car and move you into a flat in the city because daddy got laid off from his meaningless middle-management job after Kerry tanked the economy. But don't worry, he made sure to put all your hard-earned tax money into making sure retards like you that voted for him can get food stamps and government-subsidized healthcare.

And fuck Canadians who get up in our domestic business. This is our house, you speak when spoken to.

cuss:[/quote:c4a93]

Well you are right Noctis, Kerry does not have all the answers. He will raise taxes on the top 2%,
Bush if re-elected will raise taxes, he hasn't vetoed a spending bill yet, and he has to do something before the dollar turns into the peso.
The draft will probably be reinstated no matter who is elected, because the are running out of new recruits.
You know as well as I do that Kerry will not get half of his agenda through a Republican congress.
And the economy is already tanked, thank you very much.
Inflation is already outpacing income.
Drilling in Alaska will take care of our energy problem, not investing in real alternative feul, or requiring more effecient automobiles, or even a better mass transit sytem throughout the country.
hmm..Iraq.... What is the reasoning for invading this week.... maybe Sadam could rebuilt his his wepons program hmm... but he didnt care about the US he was obbsessed with Iran. That's ok though Saddam is no longer and power, and Bush has taken our flag and changed from a symbol of freedom and justice to a recriutting poster for terrorist throughout the world.

Yeah you are right Kerry might do something for AMERICANS with their hard earned tax dollars, unlike Bush who would rather use future generations hard earned tax dollar.

As for Canadians , they can say anything they want. And maybe people like you should start listening.

ENJOY

What if everyone says whatever we wish because Noctis doesn't have any influence whatsoever over anything anyone does, as Low spark has duly noted.

Man, you guys must have missed the memo. I'm taking over the world, I will have control of everything.

And I will be called Lord of the Marshmallow People.

beer:

Can I be in the elite posse ? ... possibly with some cute women ? happy:

Yes, Lord Solidus. You will be one of the few chosen to rule.

[quote="Low spark":f4cd2]Well you are right Noctis, Kerry does not have all the answers. He will raise taxes on the top 2%, [/quote:f4cd2]

The belief that a tax on the top 2% will only affect the top 2% is short sighted. Is anyone her old enough to remember the luxury tax that they put on high ticket boats etc? It was designed to get more money from "the top 2%". Instead it pushed the cost of luxurt boats up just enough that sales of those boats dropped forcing the builders to lay off hundreds of workers. So the big "tax the rich" scheme denied a few borderline wealthy folks a fancy boat but cost alot of middle class workers their jobs. The moral of the story is that all sectors are connected. Any negative impact on one negatively impacts all.

Levi, why are you wishing death upon the entire Clinton family. It is not like HE killed american men by sending them to Iraq.

Pyro, I did a google search 'cause I was going to list all of the places that President Clinton did send American soldiers (just about all of our Presidents have sent some somewhere) --- places such as Bosnia, Somalia, etc.... and this one of the first articles that came up... I had to laugh. It is from 1999:

"COLUMBUS, Ohio - Facing tough questions from America's heartland, the Clinton administration's foreign policy team tried to make the case Wednesday for U.S. military action against Iraq. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright called Iraq's disputed weapons arsenal the "greatest security threat we face."

FYI - http://www.usatoday.com/news/index/iraq/iraq172.htm


HAW HAW HAW!!

At least he didn't do anything about it. I miss the days when the leaders of countries actually fought beside the troops.

LOL!!!!

How would you like to be dead today because someone didn't like the leader of your country. You were just chillin, going about your day to day business, and then you come home to see your house blown up and the remains of your family scattered around your residence.

thanks bush, you made him a happy father and husband that day. Why don't you kill his mother and father too?

i found it funny how you don't want the leaders to do anything about a huge terrorist threat. That is just stupidity right there Pyro...end of story.

Where is the proof they were a threat? They have no weapons and Iraq would never have a chance against America. Saddam just wanted to chill and fuck shit up in his own country.

[quote=Pyro]Where is the proof they were a threat? They have no weapons and Iraq would never have a chance against America. Saddam just wanted to chill and fuck shit up in his own country.[/quote:3f5d2]I find it funny how you are happy a president "doesn't do anything about it." Admit it, your wording was total shit.

[quote=Colonel]The belief that a tax on the top 2% will only affect the top 2% is short sighted. Is anyone her old enough to remember the luxury tax that they put on high ticket boats etc? It was designed to get more money from "the top 2%". Instead it pushed the cost of luxurt boats up just enough that sales of those boats dropped forcing the builders to lay off hundreds of workers. So the big "tax the rich" scheme denied a few borderline wealthy folks a fancy boat but cost alot of middle class workers their jobs. The moral of the story is that all sectors are connected. Any negative impact on one negatively impacts all.[/quote:ee7c0]

You are correct. Yes luxury boats sale may have dropped, and hundreds of workers may have been laid off. But for the most part the top 2% do not take their tax refunds and go out and buy things, or use it to help feed and educate thier children. They are not living paycheck to paycheck like so many in the middle class. I know to many people that have lost their jobs, that are either not working or are working for less pay. I totally agree with a middle class tax cut, because for the most part that money goes back into the economy and keep everyone working.

What good does any tax cuts reallydo for any one? When our present congress and administration make no attempt to control spending, except for social program for the poor/ If we are not careful we could see a dramatic devaluation in the dollar if we allow our national debt and deficet to grow..

And finally, Pyro Colonel is correct Clinton did send are troops into harms way several times. and a lot of people disagreed. Kosovo is a case in point, we did not have UN backing, but did have nato backing.

And yes alot of people thought Saddam had WMD on both sides of the aisle. But some of us didn't, but no one wanted to here from dissenters because it was deemed unpatriotic. The sanctions had work, Saddam was obessed with Iran, they were know real ties between Saddam and terrorist.
Saddam was a power hungery madman, that did do unspeakable things to the Iraqi people, he deserves to be in hell, but were we right to invade a country based on the idea that it leader was a bad man. If so, lets get to work because we need to start invading a lot of countries.

[quote=Coleman][quote=Pyro]Where is the proof they were a threat? They have no weapons and Iraq would never have a chance against America. Saddam just wanted to chill and fuck shit up in his own country.[/quote:11009]I find it funny how you are happy a president "doesn't do anything about it." Admit it, your wording was total shit.[/quote:11009]

They should only do things that are fucked up in THEIR OWN COUNTRY. The country they were elected to represent and make better.

[quote="Low spark":54f52][quote=Colonel]The belief that a tax on the top 2% will only affect the top 2% is short sighted. Is anyone her old enough to remember the luxury tax that they put on high ticket boats etc? It was designed to get more money from "the top 2%". Instead it pushed the cost of luxurt boats up just enough that sales of those boats dropped forcing the builders to lay off hundreds of workers. So the big "tax the rich" scheme denied a few borderline wealthy folks a fancy boat but cost alot of middle class workers their jobs. The moral of the story is that all sectors are connected. Any negative impact on one negatively impacts all.[/quote:54f52]

And finally, Pyro Colonel is correct Clinton did send are troops into harms way several times. and a lot of people disagreed. Kosovo is a case in point, we did not have UN backing, but did have nato backing.

[/quote:54f52]

so what if i was wrong. I still don't find it good to wish death upon his fucking family.

I do that cunt thinks shes a senator for our state. I didnt vote her in and I dont want her there.

Maybe you should know what youre talking about before you open your mouth you nosey fucking canuck bastard? Thats not the pyro way, its talk shit about conservative thinking and ask questions later

Death to your fucking mother, father, brothers and sisters.

Hell death to your entire family. I hope they all die in the worst possible fucking fashion.

Hell im sure Clintons family has done alot more for your fucking country than your family ever has. So fuck them, and fuck you.

Id really love for there to be a fucking political forum so you cunts can fuck off and cry elsewhere.

Hahah what a pethetic peice of shit you are. If you guys were a major player in the world which btw youre fucking not wed know about Canadian politics. And we could all sit around and trash them. You guys are the most worthless country there is, so cry about it. Canada will never be as powder or as influential in the world.

And pyro Id fuck your sister, right in her 8 year old ass.

I don't know, but preaching being a pedophile doens't seem to be a very respectable thing. I haven't even trashed America, I've only trashed you thinking a US President, yes of YOUR COUNTRY, shouldn't die. Did Clintion kill your babies or something?

I don't care if you make fun of Canada, do whatever you want. It is just a Country with humans beings the same as every other country in the world. We just happen to be better off than most.

Im sick and fucking tired of everyone thinking clinton was this great president. He was a Handpuppet. He would do what he thought was right only when people would tell him. He was a president but he gets all the credit for reagans progress.

Better than the most? The best country right now out there Is Israel. Fighting and staying strong despite horrible odds, numbers and countrys around them. Most respectable country out there.

ha, i could probably make an arguement for that...

Israel is just as bad as the Palestinians.

This is to You and Levi...

How was Clinton a bad President?

Im not going to stick my face into this. I was just hinting towards abortions...but i guess you didn't pick up on that. AND I know that you are going to say abortions do not involve babies. So let's just leave it at that.


/me scoots out of the thread.

I don't know how I stand on Abortion.

[quote=Pyro]I don't know how I stand on Abortion.[/quote:3da69]

With 2 feet.

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[quote:8ed3d]How would you like to be dead today because someone didn't like the leader of your country. You were just chillin, going about your day to day business, and then you come home to see your house blown up and the remains of your family scattered around your residence.

thanks bush, you made him a happy father and husband that day. Why don't you kill his mother and father too?[/quote:8ed3d]

We called it the Revolutionary War.