[quote="Pick Axe":d5805][quote="Short Hand":d5805]
That "rice wing" provides the downforce. Without it, when your pushing that thing at high speeds it bec omes extremely unstable, espcially since the GTR is extremely light weight.[/quote:d5805]

Oh, so thats why Nascar run their cars around at 200 mph with out huge wings....

There are more effecient ways to create downforce that don't look so downright gawdy....[/quote:d5805]

THEY DO have spoilers on theri cars in nascar, those cars are also millions of dollers a pop so they can invest in other ways. The cheapest way to get good downforce going is a rally type spoiler, you can fall in line and follow the internet trend of omg RICE and say its ugly, but that things is hella of alot better then the others. period. Also note nascar = going around in circles.

[quote="Short Hand":a6bac][quote="Pick Axe":a6bac][quote="Short Hand":a6bac]
That "rice wing" provides the downforce. Without it, when your pushing that thing at high speeds it bec omes extremely unstable, espcially since the GTR is extremely light weight.[/quote:a6bac]

Oh, so thats why Nascar run their cars around at 200 mph with out huge wings....

There are more effecient ways to create downforce that don't look so downright gawdy....[/quote:a6bac]

THEY DO have spoilers on theri cars in nascar, those cars are also millions of dollers a pop so they can invest in other ways. The cheapest way to get good downforce going is a rally type spoiler, you can fall in line and follow the internet trend of omg RICE and say its ugly, but that things is hella of alot better then the others. period. Also note nascar = going around in circles.[/quote:a6bac]

Agree with you about nascar, I hate it, just giving an example.

Most of the old muscle cars, not all, but most, used a spoiler like this...

[img]http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2004/11/20/busch_miami/harvick_car.jpg[/img]

Albiet more subdued. Your telling me that it is cheaper to build an entire wing than just a lip spoiler? Anyways, I guess its just a matter of opinion as to how it looks....

Also, I get really tired of calling rice "Rally equiped" and bullshit like that. Go watch a WRC Rally race, where do they race? Almost exclusively on gravel. I'd like to see some one with their precious "Rally inspired" ground effects and under glow neons go down a gravel road like a real rally race. Thier bulbs would be broken and the plastic bumpers would fall apart.....

who said anything about ground effects ? I wasn't talking about that at all. Why are you even bringing it in to the disscussion ? as a matter of fact, why are you bringing in body kits as well. All I said was, im tired of people bashing Alloy spoilers. They serve a purpose on nice cars.

+ What I meant by cheaper is its cheaper to slap on a spoiler, over putting millions into desinging aerodynamic bodies such as the ones in nascar. (PS, the spoiler/lip on that nascar there runs close to 3 grand a pop.

[img]http://www.skatecar.hpg.ig.com.br/Rally/Ford_Focus_WRC.jpg[/img]
[img]http://150.254.10.91/pub/FunStuff/Cars/FordFocus/2001-Rally/07_Acropolis/Acr36.jpg[/img]
Not the body kit on these rally car has not fallen apart. beer:

The wing on the GT-R serves absolutely no purpose for a car you'll be
driving on the streets. Replace it with a smaller spoiler and the car will
perform the same. Say what you will, but that wing looks rediculous
and definately goes the way of rice. Just take a look at the 5.0 Cammer.
That car should out perform the GT-R and has a small trunk wide lip-spoiler
as the one used on Nascar. The GT-R is a concept car so thats why all the flashy stuff.

arkan, IF YOUR buying a gtr, you ain't buying it for your daily comute, your buying it for weekends t the track and fun cruising. so it does serve a purpose, they wouldn't slap a spoiler like thaT onto a car liek that unless it served a purpose.

[quote="Short Hand":d2068]arkan, IF YOUR buying a gtr, you ain't buying it for your daily comute, your buying it for weekends t the track and fun cruising. so it does serve a purpose, they wouldn't slap a spoiler like thaT onto a car liek that unless it served a purpose.[/quote:d2068]

You're right about using the car as a "weekender"....so is the 5.0 Cammer...not a daily driver.

if only we had some performance test sheets. statts/specs.

I went to the local Ford dealership today, they had one new Mustang, a White V6 one :( ... Felt awesome to sit in. I cant wait to see a GT in person.

Saw a red GT today, damn sexy.

I only brought in the body kits and lights as a side note, just something I thought of.

What I'm saying is that a simple lip spoiler is a HELL of a lot cheaper to make than a wing that has to be built with aeronautics involved. Whereas with the lip spoiler, it is just a flat piece of metal, all that has to be figured out is the angle, which could be a lot easier to chand on a lip design than with a wing. If you simply change the angle of the wing, that throws off all of the dynamics of the airflow around it.

Yep, you showed me a picture of a real rally car. (one that was ungodly huge, BTW) I was just saying that you wouldn't see one of those "Rally inspired design" rice cars out there doing that. It couldn't handle it.

I have seen cars that I really thought looked good that I would also call "rice". To me a lot of ricer cars look nice, but that GT-R concept is not one of them.

english ?

[quote="Short Hand":8560e]english ?[/quote:8560e]

Meh, I pwned you, you just won't admit it.....

[quote="Pick Axe":dea70][quote="Short Hand":dea70]english ?[/quote:dea70]

Meh, I pwned you, you just won't admit it.....[/quote:dea70]


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