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rdeyes 06-02-2005 08:37 PM

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Pearl Harbor annoy:

Pearl harbor was primarily an attack on the military forces stationed there. And it was a surprise attack. Can you really blame them? They knew that sooner or later, their would liekly be a war between the US and Japan, and they decided to launch a surprise attack, and start the war on their terms. I hope I am not offending anyone, but that is the truth.

how can say there was no way to avoid a war with the US, the US wasnt interested in going to war with japan or germany, it wasnt until pearl harbor that the US really got invovled in the war . they deserved what they got , if you look at the major ground battles in the pacific, the US command knew the japs wouldnt just give up , so they had no other option but to drop the bombs.

Madmartagen 06-02-2005 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rdeyes
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Originally Posted by Trunks
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Originally Posted by rdeyes
Pearl Harbor annoy:

Pearl harbor was primarily an attack on the military forces stationed there. And it was a surprise attack. Can you really blame them? They knew that sooner or later, their would liekly be a war between the US and Japan, and they decided to launch a surprise attack, and start the war on their terms. I hope I am not offending anyone, but that is the truth.

how can say there was no way to avoid a war with the US, the US wasnt interested in going to war with japan or germany, it wasnt until pearl harbor that the US really got invovled in the war . they deserved what they got , if you look at the major ground battles in the pacific, the US command knew the japs wouldnt just give up , so they had no other option but to drop the bombs.

in japans point of view, war with america was unavoidable. in order for them to continue their conquest of east asia, they needed to trade with the US. america had already let japan know that if it continued its push into asian countries, we would stop trading with them. japan was not about to stop its conquest, and so they had come to the conclusion that they would have to fight the US sooner or later. so, as trunks put it, they attacked first and had the element of surprise.

rdeyes 06-02-2005 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmartagen
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Originally Posted by rdeyes
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Originally Posted by Trunks
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Originally Posted by rdeyes
Pearl Harbor annoy:

Pearl harbor was primarily an attack on the military forces stationed there. And it was a surprise attack. Can you really blame them? They knew that sooner or later, their would liekly be a war between the US and Japan, and they decided to launch a surprise attack, and start the war on their terms. I hope I am not offending anyone, but that is the truth.

how can say there was no way to avoid a war with the US, the US wasnt interested in going to war with japan or germany, it wasnt until pearl harbor that the US really got invovled in the war . they deserved what they got , if you look at the major ground battles in the pacific, the US command knew the japs wouldnt just give up , so they had no other option but to drop the bombs.

in japans point of view, war with america was unavoidable. in order for them to continue their conquest of east asia, they needed to trade with the US. america had already let japan know that if it continued its push into asian countries, we would stop trading with them. japan was not about to stop its conquest, and so they had come to the conclusion that they would have to fight the US sooner or later. so, as trunks put it, they attacked first and had the element of surprise.

do you think that attack played any part in the US dropping atomic bobms on them ? i think it had a little bit of effect

Madmartagen 06-02-2005 09:26 PM

im sure there was revenge in the minds of the sailors, marines and pilots, but the whole tactical and strategic purpose for using the bomb was to end the war.

rdeyes 06-03-2005 03:22 AM

yeah its a shame that it had to end like that , war isnt a friendly game


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