The information is staring you right in the face. Read the purple boxes and the bolded parts. I find it hard to believe that people can still say this means nothing when the information is right there.

People are afraid. People are afraid to look at the truth. People don't want to know that their government has lied to them and that hundreds of thousands have died in vein. No, people would rather be oblivious to the world around them and watch TV for 10 hours a day and eating potato chips.

People think that what happened in the past can never happen again. Nero Hitler, Pearl Harbor, USS Liberty. Time and time again governments manipulate people to rally around a cause to further geopolitical goals. But it's can't happen now. We're smarter. We're more informed. I say bullshit to that. People don't care enough to break free of the mainstream and actually ask some questions. Most of us rather live in our fairy tale life and forget about everything else.

If you choose to look past the many facts out there, fine. But I cannot.

This has nothing to do with left right either. I hold many right wing values, and many left wing values. It goes far beyond the left right spectrum. Until people realize this, your country will continue to be divided, and the real issues at hand will never be resolved. You know...together we stand, divided we fall.

Ninty.. you know as well as I do that for anyone such as c132, TGB, levingstein, AcidEyez, Colemon etc to admit they "could" even be wrong is next to impossible. To them being wrong about politics and what they beleive in is just NOT an option.

I beleive terrorists are responsible for 9/11. I beleive Iraq had WMDs that they either improperly disposed of or hid (even Bill Clinton said so before the war), I beleive that Saddam was murdering thousands upon thousands of Iraqis for no reason. I beleive the Iraqis are better off now than they were before. I do not beleive that George Bush is a liar. I beleive George Bush is a good man at heart. I do not beleive that the government is playing games that it is hiding from the public.

Why?

Because all the evidence and reason that are involved in me beleiving those things make more logical sense to me than the stuff you have found on the internet and posted here. They make more sense than the half assed arguments people make from the circumstantial evidence I have been presented with. Just because a source that goes against the government is on the internet and not on TV doesn't mean it is an example of the government trying to filter contrary ideas.

And Short, stop acting like people who have conservative values are the only people who can do wrong. The mere fact that you made a statement like you did makes you have an attitude of not being able to be wrong.

Now I am done with this thread.

[quote="Short Hand":ef276]Ninty.. you know as well as I do that for anyone such as c132, TGB, levingstein, AcidEyez, Colemon etc to admit they "could" even be wrong is next to impossible. To them being wrong about politics and what they beleive in is just NOT an option.[/quote:ef276]

Dude. You know this guy stopped posting like a year ago, right?

Because if you're the United states Government...everything you do is Good, and can't possibly be evil.

how is that any less uninformed than your view of, "everything the US government does is evil, and can't possibly be good"

Thats fine. Do yourself a favour though and google Operation Northwoods.

rock:

NINTY - who else has co-signed on the DSM? Whats the background of the author?

[quote="Im Hopped Up On The Juice":caa02]Ninty.. you know as well as I do that for anyone such as c132, TGB, levingstein, AcidEyez, Colemon etc to admit they "could" even be wrong is next to impossible. To them being wrong about politics and what they beleive in is just NOT an option.[/quote:caa02]

Again. . .riding NINTY's coat-tails. How many PM's do you send him a day?

Please inform me enlightened one.

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Again. . .riding NINTY's coat-tails. How many PM's do you send him a day?[/quote:510c3]


None. The last one I sent him was a year ago and it was advice on builidng his car audio system.

*yawn* says the guy with a top secret clearance and could burn all you fools but sadly can't.

Oh snap, vance is back.