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tomxtr 02-22-2006 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by c312
what military aid do we GIVE them?

They are given about 2 billion a year in military and about 1 billion a year in domestic aid, courtesy of the US taxpayer.

c312 02-22-2006 09:13 PM

it's not that I don't beleive you, I just don't think we explicitly give them military aid, I know we give them money and chances are that they spend some (or a lot) of it on military funding, but I want to know if we send them stuff like artillery, guns, bullets, etc..

Machette 02-22-2006 09:16 PM

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/factshe ... Israel.htm

Yes I know...don't say it.

tomxtr 02-22-2006 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Machette
I won't deny that, but cutting it off now isn't the right thing to do. Cutting off aid = No Arab policemen in Palestine thus increasing attacks.

I'll admit that I'll often debate, just for the sake of debating, but I disagree with you on this point. The Palestinian Authority didn't do a good job of policing when they recieved aid. That is, if any of the money ever found its way to them. The inmates (Hamas) are and have been running the asylum. Hamas is a known terrorist organization who not only doesn't recognize the Israel state, but is bent on the destruction of Israel.

Not to worry though, respectable countries such as Iran and Saudi Arabia have stepped up to support these terrorists. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I'm certainly disappointed in the Saudis.

c312 02-22-2006 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Machette
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/factsheet/US_Aid_to_Israel.htm

Yes I know...don't say it.

ok, but that says we give them $2billion in explicit military aid. That doesn't seem like much (even though I don't think that our money should pay for anyone's military but our own). And it also says that 18 of 92 arms deals were with Israel. That seems like a small percentage to me, 18 of 92...And they have more F-16s than any country other than the US. Ok, but it later says they are buying them from Lockheed Martin, it's not like they're buying them from the US government....

tomxtr 02-22-2006 09:32 PM

US Defense contractors must have permission to sell arms to foreign countries. These countries are, in turn, bound by agreements not to resell or share the technology.

Unknown_Sniper 02-22-2006 11:06 PM

So are you saying we should not sell Jets to Israel, who last I heard had one of the best airforces in the world? It takes one of those f-16's less than 15 minutes to cross their country, they need the jets for defense pure and simple.
The whole middle east conflict has been going on for thousands of years. It will never end and the more we poke and prod it the more its going to flame up and burn hotter. There will never be an end to the fight until one side is completely wiped out.

Eight Ace 02-23-2006 12:25 AM

[quote="mR.cLeAn":2eabe]
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Originally Posted by Machette
Don't bring Israel into the equation, thats irresponsible. Israel has already killed enough Arabs.

They could go for a few hundred more ... who's gona know?[/quote:2eabe]
..erm, mR.cLeAn..I'm gunna have to call u on political correctness, or lack thereof, fella

..erm, machette...didn't i have to tell your very self "Don't bring Israel into the equation, thats irresponsible" in the original mohamdood cartoon thread?...or am i trippen here....God, i suppose i'll have to requote the whole fucking thing now... annoy:

Machette 02-23-2006 01:37 PM

Yeah you did. But this debate has totally shifted on the focus of Israel.


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