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Eight Ace 06-07-2006 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c312
Because I beleive homosexuality is a choice.

wrong, you may as well say being an Eskimo is a choice.

TGB! 06-07-2006 11:49 AM

We define people and the recognition of such people ALL THE TIME. We define who we consider rich, poor, mentally challanged, sexually predatory, physically disadvantaged - etc. etc. The US government is IN your personal life whether you want to believe they are or not.

Not a single person is outlawing homosexuality, or preventing homosexuals from marrying in the church. However - just like any other social program - the government (federally and on the state level) is simply sitting back and determing the rules for legal governmental recognition of a marraige.

[quote:3354d]how can you disagree with someones sexual orientation?[/quote:3354d]

Lets not start throwing stones because semantically the statement is worded clumsy. Noones saying the disagree that someone is GAY - they are simply saying they (for whatever reason) cannot reconcile a support of homosexuality - which is the first thing he said.

[quote:3354d]So in your mind there's not even the slightest possibility that homosexually is something you're born with?[/quote:3354d]

So homosexuality is the ONE HUMAN BEHAVIOR thats instinctful and not learned? Yea right.

[quote:3354d]within reason of course ie rape, child molestation ect[/quote:3354d]

When you concede one level of governmental influence in what is socially acceptable, then you concede government has a right to get involved. You cant have your cake and eat it too.

Sgt>Stackem 06-07-2006 12:11 PM

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[quote:ddd66]within reason of course ie rape, child molestation ect[/quote:ddd66]

When you concede one level of governmental influence in what is socially acceptable, then you concede government has a right to get involved. You cant have your cake and eat it too.
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you are so wrong, we need laws to prevent these things from happening, we dont need the ammend the Constitution for them. trying to say having gays marry and child molestation is the same is a very strange view and very wrong, if you spin it enough it may start to make sense

TGB! 06-07-2006 12:47 PM

[quote:f680a]you are so wrong, we need laws to prevent these things from happening, we dont need the ammend the Constitution for them. trying to say having gays marry and child molestation is the same is a very strange view and very wrong, if you spin it enough it may start to make sense[/quote:f680a]

Who said it was the same? I didnt. However, you are asking government to intervene and make a decision defining social behavior. In THIS COUNTRY, a person must be permanently registered as a sex offender because at 18 he slept with his 16/17 year old girlfriend (or genders vice-versa). Is that right? In other countries, and hell even in communities here in the US, its not a fair law. According to the government it is. However, we accept its application because it maintains the social fabric.

Recognition of homosexuals marrying is the same thing. We legislate morality EVERY DAY - including moral behavior with no immediate damaging effect on those involved our the societies around them. Saying we should do one but not the other is just silly


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