He directly killed 100,000+ people in Iraq. While the U.S and other nations indirectly killed nearly the same amount of people with sanctions.

that was f**king briliant

And true... sanctions lead to hate, death and war more often than not.

lol you think the republicans had this all strategically planned for the sole purpose of elections? I don't think this would have much of an effect of how people vote in all honesty. If we found OBL, maybe that would pull some voters' minds.

heh, that's a hell of a simplification.

because we think he so richly deserves it?......you fucking sanctimonious turd.. eek:

Now I know why I never even bother posting in this forum anymore. I didn't even solely blame it on the U.S (it was carried out by the U.N.) and my numbers were even downsized, massively. The sanctions killed somewhere between 400,000 - 800,000 people but hey if it was caused from starvation among other things who gives a shit..it's clearly more important if bombs are dropped. I just don't find what killing Saddam will achieve. Justice?

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0807-01.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/views/102300-103.htm

you're debating the death penalty now.

Yes. It’s all all a game. Osama Bin Laden is still running around because Bush needs everyone scared shitless in order to get votes.

oOo:

No you know what? We have had OBL for two months now, but the republicans are waiting for tomorrow to release the information to the public in order to affect voting decisions. That way, the democrats will have a tough time recovering in that short time span up till the elections.

It’s not good politically for Bush to capture him. After all it’s not easy to fight a war without an enemy.

Also wander with caution; literalists are boring. It’s the provocative thinkers that change the world.

yes, beacause without osama there is no terrorism in the world....he carries out all the attacks personally, you know.

rolleyes: Oh course not, but he is a figure head. The whole American system is based on such superficiality. The main reason Bush won in 2004 was due to his spread of fear among the American people. They need OBL (As Coleman put it) as a symbol of that fear. Without him the conservatives have nothing to work with.

The people murdered by islamic terrorists in Bali, Madrid, London and even Baghdad for that matter,
are no less dead because you think "the whole American system is based on such superficiality", I think
it is you who is being superficial to pretend terrorism in just some convienient political ploy.

[quote="Eight Ace":54e9b]The people murdered by islamic terrorists in Bali, Madrid, London and even Baghdad for that matter,
are no less dead because you think "the whole American system is based on such superficiality", I think
it is you who is being superficial to pretend terrorism in just some convienient political ploy.[/quote:54e9b]

While I wont disagree that terrorism is an issue, it is most definitely used as a cheap political tactic to win elections or an argument.

I never thought of that. oOo:

lol...I bet saddam regrets causing all those delays now. freak:

I realise that is absolutely true, same here.... but as you said, the issue is real
and ongoing and cannot be dismissed because of the way politicians use it.

Perhaps the people carrying out the attacks should stop, and deny
their enemies the excuse that they are instead continually providing.

It seems a bit biased, but yes thank you.

Well, yeah, it's biased. It came from Saddam's defense lawyer so I suppose it should be taken with a grain of salt, but I do think it is very possible that the release of the verdict could have been manipulated.

Nothing political is really by accident. It's all planned, and prepared before hand. I wouldn't doubt if that principle applies here.

And if you were the party in control at the time of Saddam's capture and there were elections upcoming, I think you'd probably use every tool you had to try and sway the votes. This is another one of those tools.

Cheers to that. beer:

[quote=Stammer]While I wont disagree that terrorism is an issue, it is most definitely used as a cheap political tactic to win elections or an argument.[/quote:63810]
as opposed to threatening a young voting demographic with a draft if they dont vote for you?

sometimes you can get that result in a trial because.....the defendant is actually guilty!, far fetched as it seems.

Sarcasm is simply a defensive and juvenile method to get out of having an intelligent conversation.

TSOL mate.

so is complaining about sarcasm because you are unable to counter what I said, matey boy,
are you suggesting saddam is innocent, could the trial have concievably gone any other way?

rolleyes:

[quote="Eight Ace":cf7ba]The people murdered by islamic terrorists in Bali, Madrid, London and even Baghdad for that matter,
are no less dead because you think "the whole American system is based on such superficiality", I think
it is you who is being superficial to pretend terrorism in just some convienient political ploy.[/quote:cf7ba]
^^^where's the sarcasm here?....where's your "intelligent" response?

Youre the one trotting out the usual anti US rhetoric at evey turn, and
you've got the nerve to talk about intelligence and provocative thinkers, lol.

is it just me or did this trial faster than the OJ and MJ trials???

stfu tool.

It's probably because it wasn't on Entertainment Tonight/Access Hollywood/Inside Edition every single fucking day.