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Touche.

But what exactly is the code for is the question? Obviously it can't be for a lot or else they'd be paying iD software.

Perhaps because they use Radiant still with Quake encoding?

how do you know they did not pay ID anything for it, im sure you have not read every bank statement from ID/Activision/Infinity Ward.

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yeah but bucknub made the point about airborne which i quoted when i replied. eek:

Also most likely cod 4 is pc as well, can't see the console systems getting 2 of them in a row with no pc version in sight.

PC version would be nice, just couldn't get into BattleFeild and Americas Army was way to much work for me (game-play itself was nice).

[quote="Chronic Diarrhea":4458f] Yep. In fact, CoD 2 was little more than the Quake 3 engine with an absurd amount of bumpmapping to make it look modern. The product was a halfway shitty looking game with like 10 fps.[/quote:4458f]

I'm guesstimating on this but I'd say most folks that play CoD2 etc are not doing so because it's pretty. I run it in DX7 mode just to boost my FPS.

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how do you know they did not pay ID anything for it, im sure you have not read every bank statement from ID/Activision/Infinity Ward.

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The facts, as I know it, are that obviously we started by licensing the Quake engine during Call of Duty 1 (PC), during that time, and for the next 6 years we worked on development of our own in-house engine now known as the COD2 Multi-platform proprietary engine which we based off of the engine we had already been experienced using (i.e. Quake III Engine).

Hence the analogy (compare a sheet of paper to a tree). A sheet of paper in its most primitive form was derived from a tree at some point. This is the same instance.

In terms of how much does it have to differ from the Quake III Engine not to be the quake III engine anymore? I don't know that technical answer, that sounds like a question for Legal. This is really splitting hairs. I can say that the difference between any Quake engine and our engine, is probably the same amount of differences between my earlier analogy of the differences between a sheet of paper and a tree. Simply because their similar doesn't mean they're the same, is some of the code the same. I couldn't tell you (not because I'm not allowed, because I don't know)

Again, Not the same engine. End of story. Feel free to take it or leave it, conspiracy theories are always fun to read. ;)

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To be completely honest, to compare our engine to any Quake engine at this point, is like:

- Comparing a birthday cake to a bag of flour.
- Comparing a sheet of paper to a Tree.
- Comparing a t-shirt to a cotton plant.
- comparing a... you get the point.

Cut and dry, our engine is SIMPLY not a Quake engine. If it was, in any manner, we would be paying licensing fees to iD, and you would see their logos on our boxes. Trust me, if anyone would know if we were using their code enough to have to license it, it would be iD and there would be a bill in our inbox.

This is really beating a dead horse at this point. I'm not sure how we can explain it any clearer, but if you have any questions feel free to let me know and I'll explain it the best I can. ;D

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As for the engine, it is truly a disservice to call it Quake-anything at this point. It was a stretch with CoD1, with this game it's flat out wrong. It's like calling Source "Quake engine" because Valve's first game was based on Quake.

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how do you know they did not pay ID anything for it, im sure you have not read every bank statement from ID/Activision/Infinity Ward.

http://www.charlieoscardelta.com/board/index.php

Read some of the posts on the forum. They are pretty funny in a sad pathetic kind of way.

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how do you know they did not pay ID anything for it, im sure you have not read every bank statement from ID/Activision/Infinity Ward.

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conspiracy theories are always fun to read. ;)

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http://www.charlieoscardelta.com/board/index.php

Read some of the posts on the forum. They are pretty funny in a sad pathetic kind of way.

Ditto.

I think Infinity Ward are deleting their posts there too, every time they post some news (ie [IW]BadMofo or [IW]420), the place goes haywire.

Is just as bad as IWNation used to be when the CCA + Anti-CCA were active at IWNation; bunch of kids running around fighting.

If CoD4 is PC only, there'll be escalation at CharlieOscarDelta and IW forums.

Unless I missed it, CoD4 - at least what has been announced - doesn't have a physics engine.

If thats the case, this game can bugger off.

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Unless I missed it, CoD4 - at least what has been announced - doesn't have a physics engine.

If thats the case, this game can bugger off.

how can any decent modern game not have a physics engine? i feel like thats kind of a key element... shit, even programming gravity into a game is technically a physics engine... will this game not have gravity!?

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I really don't care about a German campaign anymore like I used to. I haven't enjoyed a single player campaign since CoD 1, and I only play multilayer based games these days. I really don't know what the big deal would be though, you get to play as the Germans in multiplayer for tons of fps and RTS games. In fact, there was an RTS game a few years back which had the storming of Poland from the German perspective. There were even references to liquidating the ghettos. Nobody said anything about that.

I haven't enjoyed single player in an FPS since goldeneye/perfect dark.

and i also think airbourne will be better than cod 4.

thats because as bucknub said you suck at them all and those games along with tribes were the only ones you did any good at[/quote:440bc]

im better than bucky at cod 3.

whatever happened to that call of duty where the germans win in Europe and base invasion on North America? Was that some april fools joke or was that an actual concept for a game?

what you are thinking of is called fall of liberty

That would of been sweet. A "What if" type of game.

Well I guess it is sweet, cuz they are making it. It's called Turning Point: Fall of Liberty. But it just looks like another console game to me. Too bad IW isn't making it.[/b][/url]

yeah i posted about fall of liberty a couple months ago, but since then i can;t find anything on the internet