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gtboys34 07-23-2006 08:58 PM

i know one thing for sure, kid's definetly using 12% of the towns energy on that thing alone happy:

ninty 07-24-2006 10:39 AM

AMD has lowered prices, so i'm thinking of upgrading to an X2 4600+:

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/446224 ... IN_RSLT_PG

Would be around $300 CDN which is super cheap. If i went here to buy one it would be at least $600. Not sure how much the drop will affect the prices here though.

anyway, i have a 3500+ right now, but the problem is i have an asus a8v deluxe board which means i have an agp video card which blows because upgrade options for that is limited. i'm running an x800 which is pretty much as high as they go in agp now since everything is pci-e crossfire and sli.

so do you guys think it's worth upgrading to a 4600+ if i don't really have that much of an option for upgrading a video card?

i'll build a new system with crossfire i'm sure but not for a while. my rig is a couple years old and it still runs fine so i don't have justification to build a new one yet, or another 3 grand to dump.

Milla 07-24-2006 04:18 PM

wtf 250 for that? newegg.com has it for 547!!!


Thats a freaking steal and a half.


I wonder why they are selling itat such a cheap price, christ thats so cheap i might jsut buy one because its so damn cheap.

ninty 07-24-2006 08:13 PM

newegg just hasn't updated their prices. amd dropped prices on selected chips today. yesterday the 4600+ was 650 cdn, today it's 300. would suck to be someone who bought one this month.

geRV 07-24-2006 10:02 PM

Theyre selling it cheap because:

A. socket 939 is now being phased out in favour of socket am2.
B. They pretty much have to sell it cheap because the core 2 duo is slapping the ever loving shit out of amd in terms of performance from the low end to the high end.

Even the slowest core 2 chip which is 1.86ghz can be clocked up a bit to be easily on par with amd's fastest chip the fx62.

As for dual core in general, unless you do tons of multitasking\video encoding\photoshoping etc theres not too much to be gained from it. It is handy being able to defrag and run a game or run a virus scan and be able to play a game without it hitching, but actual gameplay benefits are tiny in most cases. If you game at low res like 800x600 then any game making use of dual core will see a bit of a performance bump, but as you increase res the bottleneck shifts to the GPU and even dual core can't do anything about that.

Honestly ive noticed 3 big differences with dual core as opposed to single core:

3d mark 06 scores higher because its optomised for it.

Some apps load faster.

When using premiere, the digieffects aged film effect can be applied to an entire clip and previewed smoothly, used to be it was a slideshow.

Jonsey_ 07-25-2006 12:54 PM

Quick Question what temperature is dangerous for a video card to be running at mine is at a constant 90Degrees idle or not, seems pretty steep but says core shutdown is 120 so not sure if its bad or not.

geRV 07-25-2006 04:02 PM

Depends on the card, x1900's can hit 95c+ on load, they idle around 60c. No way your card shout be idling at 90c, might wanna check the heatdsink or fan to see if tis working.

Milla 07-25-2006 04:13 PM

AMD > God and Intel.


I need a new ATi card soon.

geRV 07-25-2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
AMD > God and Intel.


I need a new ATi card soon.

More like Intel > amd, the core 2 chip is the best chip out there at present and amd won't have anything to properly compete against it till later next year or early 2008.

Milla 07-25-2006 05:13 PM

No gerv, amd > intel because i fucking said so offtopic: plzdie:

























beer:

tomxtr 07-25-2006 05:14 PM

Anyone know why my laptop processor is performing below its clock speed and what I might do to fix it?

[img]http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7758/procny1.jpg[/img]

Milla 07-25-2006 05:18 PM

you have a lot of shit running? Programs...spyware maybe on teh yuor PC?

Bucknub 07-25-2006 05:19 PM

does intel have that Cool N Quiet feature like AMD does?

if so, do you have that running?

tomxtr 07-25-2006 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
you have a lot of shit running? Programs...spyware maybe on teh yuor PC?

Nope. This is my work laptop. I want to make sure I didn't fuck it up somehow before I take it to my IT guys. I haven't really put anything on it besides firefox and trillian and shit like that.

Milla 07-26-2006 12:15 AM

Make sure you delete your porn before going to the IT guys happy:

Nyck 07-26-2006 06:14 AM

alot of laptops have speed step technology. where if you dont have it plugged in it will run at a slower speed to make the battery last longer. sometimes it even runs when plugged in.

tomxtr 07-26-2006 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyck
alot of laptops have speed step technology. where if you dont have it plugged in it will run at a slower speed to make the battery last longer. sometimes it even runs when plugged in.

Nah, it's plugged in and I've poured through the power options tab and haven't found that option. I know it used to recognize 3.06 GHz.

Mr_Gl@ss 07-26-2006 08:23 AM

You'll need to go into the BIOS and disable the Intel "SpeedStep" option. On my work HP laptop it's under "Advanced" and then "Device Options" and then "disabled". You'll lose battery time since the proc will be running at full speed all the time. You may want to see if there's an option to have the proc fan run at full speed all the time as well. That option on my laptop is in the same location as above but called "Fan Always on while on AC power".

To get into the BIOS you'll need to hit a key at startup, look for the prompt during the boot sequence, it's usually on the Dell splash screen at the very beginning. I have some dell workstations and servers and it's F2 to enter the BIOS on those but it may be different on your laptop.

Nyck 07-26-2006 08:52 AM

[quote="Mr_Gl@ss":c469c]You'll need to go into the BIOS and disable the Intel "SpeedStep" option. On my work HP laptop it's under "Advanced" and then "Device Options" and then "disabled". You'll lose battery time since the proc will be running at full speed all the time. You may want to see if there's an option to have the proc fan run at full speed all the time as well. That option on my laptop is in the same location as above but called "Fan Always on while on AC power".

To get into the BIOS you'll need to hit a key at startup, look for the prompt during the boot sequence, it's usually on the Dell splash screen at the very beginning. I have some dell workstations and servers and it's F2 to enter the BIOS on those but it may be different on your laptop.[/quote:c469c]

Yep ^ I found it on my wifes HP laptop and disabled it.

Milla 07-26-2006 12:35 PM

Intel is gay

geRV 07-26-2006 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
Intel is gay

[img]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/core2duolaunch_07130680720/12587.png[/img]

[img]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/core2duolaunch_07130680720/12592.png[/img]


clearly. eek:

Stammer 07-26-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
Intel is gay

[img]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/core2duolaunch_07130680720/12587.png[img]

[img]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/core2duolaunch_07130680720/12592.png[img]


clearly. eek:

[img]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/Stammering/Animated/keke.gif[/img]

tomxtr 07-26-2006 03:48 PM

[quote="Mr_Gl@ss":004e4]You'll need to go into the BIOS and disable the Intel "SpeedStep" option. On my work HP laptop it's under "Advanced" and then "Device Options" and then "disabled". You'll lose battery time since the proc will be running at full speed all the time. You may want to see if there's an option to have the proc fan run at full speed all the time as well. That option on my laptop is in the same location as above but called "Fan Always on while on AC power".

To get into the BIOS you'll need to hit a key at startup, look for the prompt during the boot sequence, it's usually on the Dell splash screen at the very beginning. I have some dell workstations and servers and it's F2 to enter the BIOS on those but it may be different on your laptop.[/quote:004e4]

This comp is nearly 2.5 yrs. old and is not a mobile processor, so I don't have that option. loney:

Nyck 07-26-2006 06:39 PM

[quote=tomxtr]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Mr_Gl@ss":4e4d5
You'll need to go into the BIOS and disable the Intel "SpeedStep" option. On my work HP laptop it's under "Advanced" and then "Device Options" and then "disabled". You'll lose battery time since the proc will be running at full speed all the time. You may want to see if there's an option to have the proc fan run at full speed all the time as well. That option on my laptop is in the same location as above but called "Fan Always on while on AC power".

To get into the BIOS you'll need to hit a key at startup, look for the prompt during the boot sequence, it's usually on the Dell splash screen at the very beginning. I have some dell workstations and servers and it's F2 to enter the BIOS on those but it may be different on your laptop.

This comp is nearly 2.5 yrs. old and is not a mobile processor, so I don't have that option. loney:[/quote:4e4d5]

nothing huh? My wifes is 5 years old and has it.

ErichHartmann 07-28-2006 12:25 AM

Amd will be back up on the top since Intel is way to expensive. But Anyways amd will wipe that score soon.

geRV 07-28-2006 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErichHartmann
Amd will be back up on the top since Intel is way to expensive. But Anyways amd will wipe that score soon.

For the performance the core 2 chips give theyre worth the cost, only reason they appear expensive is amd's round of price cuts they done.

Over here at least the amd fx60 (2.6 ghz) costs £525+ whereas the 2.67ghz core 2 costs £399.

As for amd soon "wiping that score" , soon is late 2007 early 2008. Somehow i doubt intel is gonna be sitting doing nothing in that time frame.

ninty 07-28-2006 08:29 AM

you ever hardmodded a card gerv?

Nyck 07-28-2006 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
you ever hardfucked a card gerv?


geRV 07-28-2006 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
you ever hardmodded a card gerv?


My old 8500-LE i hardmodded to a full 8500. Few years ago though.

Himmler 07-28-2006 02:17 PM

Just ordered a new system yesterday with the E6600 mmmm can't wait.

geRV 07-28-2006 02:23 PM

What vid card\cards you getting with it?

Himmler 07-28-2006 02:34 PM

Ordered from Tigerdirect:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... CatId=2397

Ordered from ZZF:
Asus P5W DH Deluxe 975X
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=247085

Asus EAX1900XTX
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=324598

Crucial 2GB (1GB x 2) DDR2-800 PC2-6400
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... de=80061-9

Ordered from Newegg:
Lian Li PC-60APLUSII Silver
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811112115

ZALMAN CNPS 9500 LED
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835118223

geRV 07-28-2006 02:36 PM

I take it you never noticed this then?

[img]http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachments_dir/ext_jpg/atiradeonx1950xtx-photo_wIA3mErhOn5Q.jpg[/img]


x1950 with gddr 4 ram and a far better cooler. happy:

Himmler 07-28-2006 02:38 PM

Yea I know about that but I am sick of waiting. Haven't had a computer for 2 months and now that Conroe is out I am not waiting anymore, plus that card will barely give any better performacne then the 1900xtx.

geRV 07-28-2006 02:40 PM

Noone knows how much more performance it'll give, the rams ddr4 which is totally new and this is the first card to have it, also as far as i know the clock speeds for both the core and the ram have yet to be finalised.

Release is the 24-27 august.

Himmler 07-28-2006 02:42 PM

Exactly, I am not waiting another month. Plus my COD2 needs me anyway asap

Nyck 07-28-2006 03:48 PM

how much that set your dad back?

Himmler 07-28-2006 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyck
how much that set your dad back?

Oh I don't know, you can count right?

gtboys34 07-28-2006 05:37 PM

nyck stop hating.

Nyck 07-28-2006 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtboys34
nyck stop hating.

just tryin to catch him ridin dirty


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