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Quasi-evil 11-01-2002 12:03 AM

[quote="Gauge.pZ":8127e]Quasi.. Anyone that makes cheats uses them. I don't care how many times he tells us he doesn't. Why would you make something but not use it? Sound pretty dumb to me. Kinda like saying when the old timers built their own house with their own bare hands. You think they sold them? Hell no they lived in them. Okay maybe not the best analogy but hey you get the idea. ;)[/quote:8127e]

Gauge,

I don't want to get into a debate with you on this subject mainly because its off topic but lots of people make things that they never use or don't make public. I can not believe you have never done something just to see if you could do it. Thats what hackers do, look at the code and the way the program works and then try to edit it to make it do something else. Its fun and sometimes funny. The biggest thrill is when someone say this is cheat proof and will catch all the cheaters. Thats just begging for hackers to break it.

But just because you do it does not mean you use it or even have it anymore. I myself have found a group of people that I play with often and am somewhat sure that they do not use hacks or mods so have wiped all them out of my main and play with a straight virgin install now.

Can hacking and mods cause problems, heck ya, in the hands of people that have no morals or abuse them they can and have caused problems.

SNYPE00 11-01-2002 11:06 AM

Ok Quasi I gotta put my $.02 in now. Why dont you now try and explain away the hacking web site he put up too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ive been following all the posts on both sides of de fence and I still dont get this guy. I dont know if hes just runnin his own publicity campaign or what!?! Hes jumped the fence more times than illegals on the border. Sure I wanna beleive that most people are basicly honest but, Powell has lost respect, kinda like a cheatin gfriend. Its gonna take a while to gain that back.
Now LETS GO PLAY!!!!!!!!!!! fire2:

zagz 11-01-2002 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardNixon
Oh boy... where to start... you have no trace of any idea what you're talking about but you try to sound as if you actually have a clue. All right:

1: This is not a "hack" (term used by lamers who can't differentiate between hacking & cracking). This is not a modification. This doesn't even go against the EULA because they're simply using an in-game menu. That doesn't even require an .ini editing, for crap's sake. It can be activated with two command line parameters. That's all. Thank the developers for

2: There is no "attack". LOD spawn menu (which they use) is designed for spawning objects. That's its purpose, spawning, not crashing. The fact that it MAY crash a game is because of server configuration, state of the game, etc. It MAY crash the game by lagging but that's not the purpose of spawning an object. So there's not even a malicious intent in it, not to mention actually using anything remotely "illegal" for it.

3: This is not a DoS attack. This is not an attack at all. Their ISP will look at their logs, won't find any port scanning, any packet bombing, nothing malicious. Not a thing, so he will just ignore you. And that's it. All you can do is ban the abusers from your servers. Which is what I did on mine, permbanning their whole IP range, so those with dynamic IPs won't be able to return, either.

Shut the f**k man! Who cares if its illegal or not and who cares if what hes saying is true or not, the point is at least he's trying to stop these idiots from ruining the game, more than youre doing with your bit**ing about details. If youre so knowledgable about these things then why dont you help us to STOP this, or maye you are one of the idiots thats doing it in the first place.

PHEW! Sorry if I went off a bit there everyone, cheaters and game trashers really get me angry. evil:

Bazooka_Joe 11-01-2002 01:37 PM

My thoughts are this:

If you know of a game cheat, great. Tell someone who can do something about it: DogMeat, Crow King, etc.

If you are working on stopping them from working, even better.

Why argue? We're trying to improve the game, not rant on others!

Oddball the tankcommander 11-01-2002 03:36 PM

I'd just like to thank the people who came out and told these retards it's not "some sort of denial of service" hack. lol

you people are too much eek:

descry 11-01-2002 03:58 PM

[img]http://home.attbi.com/~snoooper/st.jpg[/img]
like seriously, what the fuck is this?

[tFp] Pestilence 11-01-2002 07:02 PM

There were 3 suspicous IP addys and 2 nicks that we found when objects started spawning on our server. I banned them, and set autokick to do a ban check every 5 seconds. It's worked so far....


Pesti.


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