Sorry, it just pisses me off when people post replies, such as "communism never worked and never will"......... what.. can some of you predict the future? Same thing with the giving away your PC........WTF? I'm not saying that you did these things, I'm just saying that I was annoyed by that when I was replying to your post. oOo:

Re: Communism is a really futuristic concept...or should we
 

[quote="Recycled Spooge":a7ece]Before you call me an evil commie, a warlord, or a backward medieval person, hear me out. As you see, machines are constantly replacing humans in the workstation. You can see that, at the turn of the previous century, farmers were driven out of their farms due to other farmers being able to do the work of ten farmers, since they were able to apply technology. Eventually, almost all workers will be replaced by technology and machines. How will people be able to work for a living? How will capitalism work in a technological society? The only way I see it, is by sharing all wealth equally, otherwise everyone will starve, or maybe we're supposed to die and let technology take over? Maybe that is the final chapter in evolution....


Thoughts?[/quote:a7ece]

preaching to the converted buddy!

hell I as a communist can even admitt that TRUE capatalism should work, but it doesnt. Hard workers do not get paid large amounts. Fat ass shits who sit on their ass all day get paid huge sums of money for their skills, or lack there of. My father has worked for the same company for 16 years, his boss got his job there a mere 7 years ago but is paid more than him but does less hard labour. Dare I mention the fact that my dad has a severe neck problem and heart complications and shouldn't even be doing heavy lifting!?

Capatalism has been bastardized just like Stalin bastardized communism.

And I as a very true beliver in communism unfortunatly know hat untill we as a WORLD come to the understanding that we cannot continue destroying each other and eventually become one planet with states could communism work.

As for the tech issue, its been shown we are in a form of evolution that is weakening our bone structure and our immune systems (all these shots). The only way to survive is to revert to an older way of life.

Anyways thats my opinion. and like i said, your preaching to the converted here!

BTW John Lennon (now dead former member of the beatles) was a very pro communist. Read/Listen to the song "Imagine" and its obvios.

No system can work properly because the human factor exists: you will
always have these people that absolutely need more than everyone else
but are not willing to work for it. Greed seems to be a very common sin
hake:

[quote="Recycled Spooge":28c2d]
Well, not everyone in the world will be an actor, writer, or a production assistant. I think that, that industry will always belong to the elite few. In terms of the car, I'm pretty sure a person can design a can on his own. Not build, but design, eh actually a person can build a car on their own too.[/quote:28c2d]

You are still missing the point. Please do not think that I am saying that the entertainment industry is the only thing affected. But to expand on that industry, they need cameras, fueling demand from the electroics and optics industrys, they need sets, fueling demand from carpenters, construction, concrete, timber, trucking, etc. They also need travel, catering, accountants, Movie theaters, it goes on and on. And each of those industries need products form other industries. All because we dont need as many farmers and have more free time. Yes, it is a generalization, quit being so literal. yes one person could design and/or build a car by himself, but the car would not, could not be econmically competitve in todays world. Its possible, but not practical. That is the flaw of communism, if there is no motivation to produce cheaper or more efficeint, why do it. No one likes change. I get paid the same if this car costs $5K to produce or if it costs $15K to produce. Why work a couple extra hours to ensure my company stays in business, if there is not theat of losing my job, or no incentives to make more for improved performance?

So far communism hasnt worked, it might look good on paper, but we've seen what happens when countries use it

China's been doing pretty good, along with Cuba

oOo:

*lights up a cuban cigar* mmmmm, pinkoliscious.

we will have to mix communism, and free enterprise.

well, if machines do take over all the mundane labor tasks, and everyone gets a good education, I don't see why a class system would exist any more. Everyone would have to be highly skilled specialists so there would no longer be the drastic difference between the skilled work force and teh unskilled minimum wage folks (these would not exist)

[quote="Sgt Stryker":6ff92]well, if machines do take over all the mundane labor tasks, and everyone gets a good education, I don't see why a class system would exist any more. Everyone would have to be highly skilled specialists so there would no longer be the drastic difference between the skilled work force and teh unskilled minimum wage folks (these would not exist)[/quote:6ff92]
Why only the mundane labor tasks?

[quote=pest]Its possible, but not practical. That is the flaw of communism, if there is no motivation to produce cheaper or more efficeint, why do it. No one likes change. I get paid the same if this car costs $5K to produce or if it costs $15K to produce. Why work a couple extra hours to ensure my company stays in business, if there is not theat of losing my job, or no incentives to make more for improved performance?[/quote:1f98d]
I never thought of it that way. I was thinking that companies will still compete, but the companies would belong to the worker, and the worker would be paid based on the work he does, and not the position he is in. Anyway, in the scenerio I'm talking about, there will be no human worker, but some type of robot or machine, so what motivation does a machine need?

[quote:f1b12]so what motivation does a machine need?
[/quote:f1b12]

to kill all humans. maybe

[quote="Recycled Spooge":89c80][quote="Sgt Stryker":89c80]well, if machines do take over all the mundane labor tasks, and everyone gets a good education, I don't see why a class system would exist any more. Everyone would have to be highly skilled specialists so there would no longer be the drastic difference between the skilled work force and teh unskilled minimum wage folks (these would not exist)[/quote:89c80]
Why only the mundane labor tasks?[/quote:89c80]

because machines cannot think for themselves duh.
they can't be in "inventive" jobs that require human knowhow.

[quote="Sgt Stryker":07eaf][quote="Recycled Spooge":07eaf][quote="Sgt Stryker":07eaf]well, if machines do take over all the mundane labor tasks, and everyone gets a good education, I don't see why a class system would exist any more. Everyone would have to be highly skilled specialists so there would no longer be the drastic difference between the skilled work force and teh unskilled minimum wage folks (these would not exist)[/quote:07eaf]
Why only the mundane labor tasks?[/quote:07eaf]

because machines cannot think for themselves duh.
they can't be in "inventive" jobs that require human knowhow.[/quote:07eaf]
Why not? I'm discussing a world of the future, not of the present.