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Innoxx 12-21-2002 09:43 PM

Yeah, quit copying the germans!

Totenkopf 12-21-2002 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance1
Abrams:
[img]http://www.squadron.com/old/M1A1%20PageMill/M1A1-1.jpg[/img]

Leopard:
[img]http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/Leo2_Pics/Leopard-2-Austere-Version-C.jpg[/img]





Copycats!

Actually the Leopard you see there first came off the production line in 1979, while the first Abrams came off the line in 1980.

Of course, I don't know who you were calling copycats. oOo:

12-21-2002 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strik0r
don't diss the dice

haven't you ever seen those movies where the dice can be used as concussion grenades?

loaded dice biggrin:

sounds like a 3 stooges gag

BallisticWookie 12-21-2002 11:25 PM

Believe it or not, these so called "rail guns" and "laser cannons" do exist, and have been under development for some years now.

Australia uses Leapord Tanks, they are of the old variant, but still are quite cool. Hopefully they will get armour upgrades and cannon upgrades in the future, God knows they need it.

Bazooka_Joe 12-22-2002 04:45 AM

I still gurantee that a Leopard 2 would get torn apart in battle by an M2 Abrams. It has radioactive armor, and DU (Depleted Uranium) rounds.

BallisticWookie 12-22-2002 06:48 AM

[quote="ST_Bazooka_Joe":1e722]It has radioactive armor, and DU (Depleted Uranium) rounds.[/quote:1e722]

Radioactive Armour ?? eek: Dont you mean Reactive Armour ?

Innoxx 12-22-2002 06:54 AM

LOL, Leopards have RA too. Besides, if both of them can knock out a t-80 effectively, does anything else really matter?

Milla 12-22-2002 11:40 AM

True that wook my friends uncle lives in the back woods somewhere and he has huge property, and the gov't asked to rent out some land from him. And he heard alot of noises, and when they left he went to where they were and he had old bvurned out cars back there, and now they have holes bigger than bullet holes with burn marks around them, like a laser or rail gun hit it ed:

Frambosie 12-22-2002 11:46 AM

well, i really dont buy it. Id just like to say two things. 1: most of the information about the M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams tanks is classified, no one knows our armor concotion, the us govt never released a top speed etc...so any aligation against the abrams is false because no one but the petagon and defense contractors know the real capeablities of the Abrams.

Now here is a true story:

My friends dad works with two guys who commanded and drove M1A1 abrams tanks in the Gulf War. Now, during operation desert shield, in Saudi Arabia they would drag race the abrams. Now, the released speed is like 40 MPH but these guys said the tank was doing 90 + MPH and i belive em.

id put my money on the Abrams any day :)

12-22-2002 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frambosie
well, i really dont buy it. Id just like to say two things. 1: most of the information about the M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams tanks is classified, no one knows our armor concotion, the us govt never released a top speed etc...so any aligation against the abrams is false because no one but the petagon and defense contractors know the real capeablities of the Abrams.

Now here is a true story:

My friends dad works with two guys who commanded and drove M1A1 abrams tanks in the Gulf War. Now, during operation desert shield, in Saudi Arabia they would drag race the abrams. Now, the released speed is like 40 MPH but these guys said the tank was doing 90 + MPH and i belive em.

id put my money on the Abrams any day :)

I've heard from tankers that they can indeed exceed 60mph. The tank is, however, governed to about 40mph, to keep the turbine from overheating in combat. It is however against regulations to disable the governor during combat, because if you push it too hard for too long, you'll overheat the turbine and then you'll really be in deep shit.

Hans-AlbinVonReitzenstein 12-22-2002 12:07 PM

[quote="Founding_Law":f1499]well germans are a very smart race.[/quote:f1499]


Thats why they lost WW2


besides ill take a M1A1 or M1A2 any day over a german tank

12-22-2002 01:03 PM

NINTY9 said
[/quote]Germans are not a race.[quote:66ca3]

RACE

A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
A genealogical line; a lineage.
Humans considered as a group.

right from the dictionary NINTY9. and they even use the German race as an exp.


so your little attempt at a flame showed that you were wrong not me.[/quote:66ca3]

12-22-2002 01:05 PM

so i can still be racist if i hate some white people but not others? good.

you're STILL an idiot tho

Vance 12-22-2002 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Totenkopf
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance1
Abrams:
[img]http://www.squadron.com/old/M1A1%20PageMill/M1A1-1.jpg[/img]

Leopard:
[img]http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/Leo2_Pics/Leopard-2-Austere-Version-C.jpg[/img]





Copycats!

Actually the Leopard you see there first came off the production line in 1979, while the first Abrams came off the line in 1980.

Of course, I don't know who you were calling copycats. oOo:

I meant the Americans were copycats eek:

12-22-2002 01:10 PM

[quote:4efd1]you're STILL an idiot tho
[/quote:4efd1]



no in fact i am so much smarter than you. that what i talk about is way above your head. and you dont understand it. so you being who you are. think it must be me. when in fact it is you. notice how i didnt call you names. ^^


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