The Louisiana purchase. But then again, it wasnt much until after the french virtually gave it away.

^ big surprise there oOo:

^ *sigh* my above post was referring to joe's statement

[quote:e0bf1]tons of scientific, cultural, culinary, architectural, democratic, and military ideas have come from France. learn your history
[/quote:e0bf1]

well enlighten us mr know it all. Its easy to say they did something but can you prove it. I want to learn my history tell me what they did. and show proof. thank you

Yeah, i never started this as a flame against france, i genuinly could not off the top of my head think of anything the french have done or got thats good.

The statue of liberty doesnt count as only america can appreciate that.

sexy French underwear is the only valid one ive seen so far.

and like whatever said its all very well saying theyve done loads of this and tons of that. but WHAT exactly?

french cooking is a style employed by the finest restaurants around the world. if you watch the show Iron Chef you know what I am talking about. Wines and cheese...the staple of French cooking. if you have not heard of Louis Pasteur, then I suggest you look on a milk carton as it will most likely say "pasteurized." Descartes is also one of history's greatest philosophers, mostly dealing with mathematics. France is also the second country to have a declaration of independence. During that time, Paris was considered the world's capital for grandeur...great politicians and diplomats met at Paris. to list the contributions of Frenchmen to us throughout history is rather lengthy.

I suggest if you are really interested in it, that you find out for yourself. The problem with trying to explain something like this to people like you is you believe France to only be 200 years old, when in fact France has a history far beyond America's and the past 200 years. I will gladly expand on this if you want. my opinion may be biased, but that is only because I have a deep love for the European continent and its history as a whole.

^^^ Yup.

....Also, French Artists OWN.

French pretty much GAVE us Art. If we didn't have these artists, we wouldn't have some of the great masterpieces:

Monet
Cezanne
David
Manet
Picasso
Gauguin
Millet
Van Gogh (Was a Dutchman - But considered himself French)
Gericault

.....And a shiteload more....

[quote="Old Reliable"]

The problem with trying to explain something like this to people like you is you believe France to only be 200 years old, quote]

who the fuck are you to suggest i am like that?

i'm talking about americans.

now this is what im talking about. good french stuff. french art! thanks tripper.


we now have french underwear, french cooking and french art.

[quote="Old Reliable":3c037]i'm talking about americans.[/quote:3c037]

ok, sorry, i take what i said back cry:

[quote="Old Reliable":f086c]i'm talking about americans.[/quote:f086c]
are you refering to your country in the 3rd person?

[quote="Old Reliable":c99e9]french cooking is a style employed by the finest restaurants around the world. if you watch the show Iron Chef you know what I am talking about. Wines and cheese...the staple of French cooking. if you have not heard of Louis Pasteur, then I suggest you look on a milk carton as it will most likely say "pasteurized." Descartes is also one of history's greatest philosophers, mostly dealing with mathematics. France is also the second country to have a declaration of independence. During that time, Paris was considered the world's capital for grandeur...great politicians and diplomats met at Paris. to list the contributions of Frenchmen to us throughout history is rather lengthy.

I suggest if you are really interested in it, that you find out for yourself. The problem with trying to explain something like this to people like you is you believe France to only be 200 years old, when in fact France has a history far beyond America's and the past 200 years. I will gladly expand on this if you want. my opinion may be biased, but that is only because I have a deep love for the European continent and its history as a whole.[/quote:c99e9]

For once I agree Old Reliable. French food is unbeatable and most fine chefs come from, or studied in France. Also, for you war-types. French pioneered artillery. French artillery was very effective in the 18th and 19th century. In WW1 they came up with the "crawling barrage" an artillery barrage that would advance with the infantry. I could go on more, but I can't really change your opinions about France.

french gothic architecture (i.e. Notre Dame) simply beautiful

http://www.pitt.edu/~medart/menufrance/mainfran.html

the also invented smokeless gun powder called "poudre B". it made it easier for europeans to kill each other with evil: