In the end she'll probably come crying to you saying this Dean guy was a big mistake and how he was a jerk and all that and she should have listened to you all along OR she come to you in a coffin.

That normally does happen (not the coffin part) they will always come back to someone they can always rely on and trust.

my bet is on the coffin
actually..if she's a crack whore, probably in a gutter

well not exactly a coffin.... I just guess its a stage some go through. I'm sure she'll come out ok out of it.

Face it, dude: he's an alpha male and you're a supplicating, submissive
chump. Let her fuck him, and consequently, herself. You tried...

yeah, she probably will once she gets older and more mature, but the sad thing is, if she does continue like this for a while, she'll have totally screwed herself out of a future, and I don't want to see that happen, she could do some great things with her life if she would stay on the right track, she has such an amazing singing voice, she could have it all if she doesn't screw it up now... hake:

Well good luck to ya mate :)

I'm sure it's not easy, but whatever happens, I'm sure you'll both pull through :)

Thanks for the advice and support, guys.

I'm sure everything will get worked out eventully, she knows I love her and don't want her to get hurt. I'll talk to her friends, get their opinions, and go from there.

Thanks everyone.

Have you ever thought about going to your local paper??

seriously. people here find newspaper quite helpful in uncovering druggies, and they tend to have more rights than a "civilian".

like, if you went spying on him with a camera you could end up facing him with his lawyer - and being a junkie he probably knows a lawyer.

where as if it were an undercover newspaper reporter, hed have a hard time pressing charges as the reporter would screw him easily for doing drugs.

So go to the paper with your story. I know its ironic of me to talk about a guy being with a 16 year old when i myself am after a date with a 15 year old, but atleast i dont do hard drugs or deal them to others.

give that idea a thought mate. best of luck though, i know its shit hard grieving over an ex girl when you still care so much for her.

[quote="Captain Bunny":65bf0]Have you ever thought about going to your local paper??

seriously. people here find newspaper quite helpful in uncovering druggies, and they tend to have more rights than a "civilian".

like, if you went spying on him with a camera you could end up facing him with his lawyer - and being a junkie he probably knows a lawyer.

where as if it were an undercover newspaper reporter, hed have a hard time pressing charges as the reporter would screw him easily for doing drugs.

So go to the paper with your story. I know its ironic of me to talk about a guy being with a 16 year old when i myself am after a date with a 15 year old, but atleast i dont do hard drugs or deal them to others.

give that idea a thought mate. best of luck though, i know its shit hard grieving over an ex girl when you still care so much for her.[/quote:65bf0]

That's the thing, he's not a druggie, he doesn't even drink, I think she said he smokes, but that's about it. The thing is that he lets her and encourges her to drink, smoke, and do drugs, probably cos it's easier for him to take advantage of her when she's drunk or high. My feelings, if he cared about her as much as she says he does, he would stop her from drinking, smoking, and doing drugs, not encourge her to.

I've just done my RSA (Responsible service of Alcohol) Certificate, and the resounding thing they taught us about Alcoholics, and it relates also to Drug Addicts, is, the simple fact of the matter is You can't force help onto someone, they have to want to be helped. I know you love her, and this must be heartbreaking, but there's nothing you can do right now. All you can do is wait and pray she sees reason, then help her pick up the pieces.

Good Luck, old boy. You seem pretty mature, so she's lucky she's got someone like you keeping an eye on her angel:

SOMEONE"S GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

...or at least wish they were dead when I get through with them!!!

Someone attacked my ex last night, grabed her from behind, through her to the ground, and kicked her many times!!! mad: mad: Then he told her that I asked him to do this!!!!!! mad: mad: mad: I would never hurt her like that!!!! mad: mad: mad: When I find him.... I'm not going to kill him, but he's gonna wish I did!!!!!! mad: mad: mad: mad:

Redhawk....



Go....




POSTAL!

I'm about to! Once I find out who it was! I talked to her, she has no clue who it was, but it's obviously someone who knows both of us, and doesn't quite want her to hang out with me anymore! Argh! Who could it be... Who could hate me and her being friends that much... Who... DEAN!!!! He hates use being friends, knows both of us, and knows where she lives and that she walks home from school everyday!!! God, if he set this up, I WILL KILL HIM!!!! mad: mad: No one beats her like that!!

shes only 16 and hes in his twenties? you know who to call on this and if its a serious problem like you are saying..i wouldnt hesitate. knowing that when you do this she might hate your guts for now...but you might be doing everyone involved in this a favor. shes 16 and sounds very irrational. hes 23 and is obviously not thinking with the right head. hell, even the right head is probably all f*cked up for the same reasons your worrying about with her. call them man..or walk away and dont look back. those are the only two otpions i see. i will say this..i know how hard it is to walk way..but all she is doing is hurting you and herself. so do both. call the P and lodge a complaint. than..walk away and dont look back. the next thing i say prolly isnt what you want to hear. oh well, you asked. walk away and dont look back. your doing yourself know good and this is a baaaaaad situation. she will ultimatly do whatever she wants to do without giving two shits what you think or care. its a sign brother. walk away....dont look back. move on.