there isnt. how do we know that there is one. If there is a chance that there igs a god, then theres a chance that the earth is how it is b/c of coincidenses and evolution

put it on the table then and prove me wrong!

its not how you died, its how you lived your lived that counts.

I think I'm living my lived pretty good.

The whole basis for religion is FAITH.

Therefore, there is no proof, you only need faith.

I don't think we can just throw religion away. It is as much of a tradition as anything else. Religion has been a part of our race for a couple million years.

Take this hyphetical statement for example:

If there is a God, from what we have learned as humans, would he give us proof he exists, or tell us that he is there? Of course not. The whole point is to haev faith, thus by believeng in him with no proof, it is easier to live in eternal happiness and such.

if there was proof that God existed, then everyone would beliee and everyone would reap the benifits. By having no proof, only the true believers are benifites.

Now whether you believe or not is totally up to you.

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You gentlemen are trying to find answers to a problem that has plagued
philosophers and men of the mind for millenia: quit while you still can ;-)
One thing is certain: the answer will be presented to you following death.

But how do you know that! shit i just blew my own damn mind...

A truly intelligent creator would give his children the freedom of choice to
believe in his person, on top of letting them choose how to live their lives:
this is why reincarnation is highly likely, as life experiences are presented
to us and sometimes we miss the boat. Sooner or later, every soul could
find it's way to the source, where true companionship with the one energy
is only possible if the soul/intellect is ready. What would be the point of
creating a world where your creations have no choice in the matter ? This
is where Christianity went wrong...

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But how do you know that! shit i just blew my own damn mind...[/quote:f7fcf]

Check one of my first posts in this topic... ;-)

We have to remember that religions were really created and maintained by us.

Christianity and the Roman Catholic religion ahev gone through some very tough times. From the selling of indulgences to crusades in the name of God, its humans that are ultimatley at fault.

This thread scared the shit outta me.....That's my biggest fear. Life after death.

This reminds me of an episode of red drawf where kryten learns that there is no robot heaven and found out there that there is just a program to make him think there is. It was put there so kryten would think there is a reason for living. That really made me think.

you'll never ever ever ever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever everever ever live again

Ok, on the whole ife after death thing, you wouldn't really know, unless this is all of our first lives.

If I've had previous lives, I don't remember tham, which means in the future, if I ahev lives, I won't know it (today and being me). So if I can't even remember other lives, then what is the point. If every life is seperate, I would never know that I had previous lives, or been reincarnated, so whats the point?

If someone understood that, good for you, cause I don't think I did.

Anyway, I don't believe in reincarnation or second lives or any of that stuff.

One way it could work: a veil is put over your memory of previous physical
incarnations and you re-live certain experiences until you learn something
valuable from them; your spiritual and intellectual growth increases.

Like school, you re-take the subject matter / test you've failed until you get
it right. It IS possible that every incarnation has something specific that you
must learn in order to move on; until you become a "master", so to speak.

Just a thought...