I for one, had a couple of times, of doubt and belief. Right now, i'm normal, for me, i do believe, not to religious though, long time since i went to church, but i do 'respect' the belief.

Religion, sometimes seems as a way to control the human race. It can explain why things are. The bible, it's ancient, yes. Back in those times, they didn't have the knowledge we have today. They had to make up stories, make up superior beings, to explain stuff and just for control over us.

Right now, we can't prove if God is real or not. The only way of knowing is when we come to our death. Until then, we can not know, but only Hope he does exist. Hope, to me that's why some people believe strongly in him. When we are in bad times, we have to look up to something. Something for us to take comfort in, and to have Hope in.

Enough preaching lol. Bottom line is, This will only be solved within yourselves. Your own mind is the creator of what you see, and feel. We see what we believe, nothing more. I for one, hope there is a God, and heaven etc. That's why i enjoy this life. As some of you said, we should at least be on a safe side, cause we may never know, until it's our time to go.

[quote="Sgt Stryker":7004e]"I am a strong believe"

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As I've stated before, "Religion is a means of controlling simple people."

[quote="Sgt Stryker":3a862]ever hear of carbon-14 dating?
blows the whole 6000 year thing out of the water with a 16" naval rifle.[/quote:3a862]

Especially when they did a test on it in which they tested a seal that was dead for 2 weeks and a freshly killed seal and they both dated thousands of years old, with thousands of years between them...

so all religious people are "simple"?

[quote=Fallout]Especially when they did a test on it in which they tested a seal that was dead for 2 weeks and a freshly killed seal and they both dated thousands of years old, with thousands of years between them...[/quote:58085]

never heard of that one.

I guess you would like to explain how there are sea-fossils on Mt. Everest if not for millions of years of slow tectonic shifting.

Basically, yes. People in general are stupid; they're sheep. They'll believe anything if you promise them something pleasurable (ie. heaven). My guess is religion; Christianity for example was created by a few savvy politicians and other leaders over two thousand years ago.... Who wanted to control the masses easily (tell them they'll be sent to hell if they fuck up), but leave them feeling content and fulfilled for doing their duties (worship)

Blitz you couldnt have a chosen a worse place than this site and forum. Well perhaps other places are worse but asking a deep philosophical and social based question is what aa.comers are bad. All you will get are stupid and ignorant answers with no fully based proof.

A very wise man once said to me, "It's not you that must to believe in god, but god who must to believe in you."
This is the statement I base my beliefs on.

[quote="Low spark":d94b6]A very wise man once said to me, "It's not you that must to believe in god, but god who must to believe in you."
This is the statement I base my beliefs on.[/quote:d94b6]

that's a good point.

what probably riles me the most about religion is that a good person who helps everyone, gives to charity, etc. but does not believe in God is said to go to hell for being a non-believer but a religious murderer can ask a priest to forgive him and he gets heaven, WTF?

[quote="Low spark":34bff]A very wise man once said to me, "It's not you that must to believe in god, but god who must to believe in you."
This is the statement I base my beliefs on.[/quote:34bff]
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It's not you that must believe in god, but god who must believe in you."
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I try to remeber one of my favorite quotes and I screw it up. Sorry, it sounds better when I get right.

i think it's a lot more complicated than simply "controlling the ingnorant masses" I think that every religion was made up not to control people, but to explain what cant be explained. Back when christianity was being born, our lives and ways of thinking were much simpler. Christians believe in heaven and hell. If you are good, you go here, if your bad, you go here. A very simplistic view, a sign of the times. As you go back further, native indians who inhabited the americas in 20000AD believe in moon gods, sun gods, etc. This is even a more simplistic view than before. I think religion is a way of soothing the minds of people. But your right, the people who dont question and act like sheep and believe what they are taught are victims of religion and society. After all, society as a whole beleives that you should believe in a god.

[quote:c0ade]Why do i not believe in it? Basically ive been through so much fucking shit in my life i have a hard time believeing there is one almighty jackoff in control of it all. Religion = a load of fuck,[/quote:c0ade]

So you have had a hard life? Becuase you have had a hard life you believe there is no God? What about the poor people in Africa who recieve Christ, and the ones who die for Him, I do not hear them complaning. Do not be mad at God for your life, He could have put you in alot worse situation. Just make the best of it, if you accept Jesus, He will always be there for you, and you will always have someone to turn to. Why believe science? Science has to much of human input involved, read the Bible, just see how you feel at the end. You might say religious people are simple, but whats simple about accepting a free gift to be saved from external hell? There is but one way to Heaven, and thats through Jesus. Compare religions, read the Bible just see what you think. Many people are afraid to give up their life of fun to follow Jesus, but by giving up your sinful life for one to follow Jesus you will have a life that you have not to worry in, becuase there is no question where you are goig when you die. Also you will have alot more joy, becuase you will have Jesus in your heart.

ok, there IS a reason christianity is a BELEIF, you don't need to prove it through science, because no test is 100% correct. I do beleive in god, it wasn't proven through carbon-14 dating or whatever, i beleif that jesus came and dies for me, i researched through the bible (plus i go to a christian school) and have alot of christian uinfluence on me, so i took it upon myself to beleive. I hope those of you who haven't someday will.