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Recycled Spooge 06-29-2004 12:07 AM

I don't know about you guys, but I think we should start a thread about that Emo chick. Turns out cats, chuck taylors, England, and recepies are emo.

Drew 06-29-2004 12:09 AM

lmao - we should all start posting there.. she'd feel popular and be all like.. I can't be emo anymore, because my emo ethos disallows me being popular.. or something.

Arkan 06-29-2004 12:12 AM

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How the fuck is this stupid, hell im suprized any of you even understood what I said.

Anyways

Classic conservative following Thomas Paine's mantra "That government is best which governs least."

Why isn't it still like this?

I dunno, why don't you ask Jesus?

How can you people follow something and know nothing about it?

Whenever i need to know what my Government has in store for me, i always look to my helpful neighbors to the north. They seem to have all the answers. oOo:

Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:0a4c5]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?

06-29-2004 12:13 AM

Re: The Draft...if it comes back...
 
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Isn't the conservative philosophy essentially founded on self-determination and individual rights? How can you thereby justify giving the government the power to deprive you of your rights by forcing you into military duty?

to try and salvage this thread I will give you the first intelligent answer.

The draft isn't something people want to start, but it is necessary when the country is in a major war which endangers your way of life (ie. WWI, WWII); I would give up freedoms for a little while to destroy the enemy and ensure that my family would be free for generations.

'Nam was not such a war (the VC couldn't harm us outside of Vietnam no matter how hard they tried); which is why there was much resentment over the draft.
Same goes for if there will be a draft for Iraq (which in unlikely).

Pyro 06-29-2004 12:14 AM

[quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro]
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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by "Arkan":336a1
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Originally Posted by "Pyro":336a1
How the fuck is this stupid, hell im suprized any of you even understood what I said.

Anyways

Classic conservative following Thomas Paine's mantra "That government is best which governs least."

Why isn't it still like this?

I dunno, why don't you ask Jesus?

How can you people follow something and know nothing about it?

Whenever i need to know what my Government has in store for me, i always look to my helpful neighbors to the north. They seem to have all the answers. oOo:

Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:336a1]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:336a1]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.

1080jibber 06-29-2004 12:15 AM

a draft is a good thing, it would give those fat fuckers some exercise biggrin:


waits for the flames hellfire:

Drew 06-29-2004 12:15 AM

God damn you Pyro for getting the Canada vs US thread loct.+

Pyro 06-29-2004 12:16 AM

Re: The Draft...if it comes back...
 
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Isn't the conservative philosophy essentially founded on self-determination and individual rights? How can you thereby justify giving the government the power to deprive you of your rights by forcing you into military duty?

to try and salvage this thread I will give you the first intelligent answer.

The draft isn't something people want to start, but it is necessary when the country is in a major war which endangers your way of life (ie. WWI, WWII); I would give up freedoms for a little while to destroy the enemy and ensure that my family would be free for generations.

'Nam was not such a war (the VC couldn't harm us outside of Vietnam no matter how hard they tried); which is why there was much resentment over the draft.
Same goes for if there will be a draft for Iraq (which in unlikely).[/quote:2cacf]

Thanks for not being a dick and all. I could understand if the state of the world was in jeopardy.

Maplegyver 06-29-2004 12:16 AM

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God damn you Pyro for getting the Canada vs US thread loct.+

seriously wtf

Pyro 06-29-2004 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Noctis
God damn you Pyro for getting the Canada vs US thread loct.+

seriously wtf

It is against the rules.

Airborne Butters 06-29-2004 12:17 AM

this is all I'm saying on the debate; You people in Canada, do you plan on moving down by the time the draft might reinstated? Untill then don't fucking worry about what we do. I know your guys are probally shittin' your pants saying 'well you invaded Iraq, blah blah' but let me tell you that when you fly a plane into a building and kill 2000 people, then harbor the fuckers that did it, you can almost gurantee we're gonna be fucking some shit up.

Pyro 06-29-2004 12:17 AM

Nobody said they would be unwilling to protect their country, only that they would be unwilling to be forced into it. Personally, I would definitely join up if my country was under threat of invasion and it was TRULY for the sake of defense. But personally, I have no interest in laying down my life just to remove some petty tyrant on a far off shore. If the cause is just, the people will fight for it of their own free will, and you can't ask people to lay down their lives if they aren't convinced that their lives are really being valued.

Pyro 06-29-2004 12:18 AM

[quote="Airborne Butters":a4319]this is all I'm saying on the debate; You people in Canada, do you plan on moving down by the time the draft might reinstated? Untill then don't fucking worry about what we do. I know your guys are probally shittin' your pants saying 'well you invaded Iraq, blah blah' but let me tell you that when you fly a plane into a building and kill 2000 people, then harbor the fuckers that did it, you can almost gurantee we're gonna be fucking some shit up.[/quote:a4319]

Why not invade Canada then. Everyone thinks we harbor terrorists too.

Recycled Spooge 06-29-2004 12:18 AM

That thread was loctis by Noctis. Pun!

Arkan 06-29-2004 12:18 AM

[quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro]
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Originally Posted by Arkan
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Originally Posted by "Pyro":908e4
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Originally Posted by "Arkan":908e4
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Originally Posted by "Pyro":908e4
How the fuck is this stupid, hell im suprized any of you even understood what I said.

Anyways

Classic conservative following Thomas Paine's mantra "That government is best which governs least."

Why isn't it still like this?

I dunno, why don't you ask Jesus?

How can you people follow something and know nothing about it?

Whenever i need to know what my Government has in store for me, i always look to my helpful neighbors to the north. They seem to have all the answers. oOo:

Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:908e4]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:908e4]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:908e4]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day!


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