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Sgt>Stackem 04-19-2005 08:28 AM

Patrol union
supports Minutemen
Says it has had no complaints about monitors, blasts Bush over amnesty http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...RTICLE_ID=43859
Posted: April 18, 2005
5:00 p.m. Eastern


The largest local union of Border Patrol agents in the country has declared its support for the Minuteman Project in Arizona, while at the same time slamming both the American Civil Liberties Union and President Bush.

According to its website, the U.S. Border Patrol Local 2544, which covers the Tucson sector of the agency, the volunteers involved in the border-monitoring Minuteman Project have been nothing but supportive.


"We want to make it clear – because we've had a lot of questions about this – we have not had one single complaint from a rank-and-file agent in this sector about the Minutemen," says a statement on the site. "Every report we've received indicates these people are very supportive of the rank-and-file agents; they're courteous. Many of them are retired firefighters, cops, and other professionals, and they're not causing us any problems whatsoever."

The group blames the ACLU for setting off ground sensors in the area of the Minutemen activities:

"Reports of [Minutemen] causing 'ground sensors' to go off are exaggerated because most of those are being set off by the ACLU sneaking around trying to find the Minutemen doing something wrong."

As WorldNetDaily reported, the ACLU has sent representatives to the 23-mile Arizona border area to monitor the Minutemen and report any civil-liberties abuses to authorities. Instead, said Minuteman Project spokesman Grey Deacon, the law group's people are flashing lights, sounding horns and warning off illegals and their "coyote" human smugglers from entering territory patrolled by the volunteers. Deacon claims such activity amounts to aiding and abetting illegal aliens.

The Minuteman Project has attracted hundreds of volunteers, many legally carrying guns and waving flags, from across the country. They plan to keep watch around the clock until the end of the month, intimidating illegal aliens with their presence and alerting the Border Patrol via cell phones or radios when they see people crossing.

The Border Patrol local emphasizes the Minuteman Project is "shifting the bulk of the illegal-alien traffic out of the Naco corridor."

The statement then takes the president to task for his immigration proposal.

"If only President Bush were so supportive of the rank-and-file agents," the site states. "While President Bush hangs out thousands of miles away in the White House, these people are willing to give up their time and energy to actually do something. While President Bush entices millions of illegal aliens to keep coming with his amnesty proposals and his demoralizing statements that he doesn't want Border Patrol agents chasing 'good-hearted people just coming here to take jobs Americans won't do,' the Minutemen are trying to get our laws enforced.

"The Minutemen have made it very clear that they fully support rank-and-file Border Patrol agents. If only we had such support from the politicians we have to work for (aren't we really supposed to be working for the citizens of this country anyway?)"

ninty 04-19-2005 10:04 AM

[quote:02b92] U.S. 'vigilantes' consider monitoring Canadian border
Members of the controversial Minuteman Project, a group of American civilians patrolling the U.S.-Mexican border for illegal immigrants, said Monday they are eyeing plans to begin monitoring the Canadian border for smugglers and terrorists. [/quote:02b92]

Their gonna be pretty cold and lonley out there. Why not just build a giant wall instead?

Sgt>Stackem 04-19-2005 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty9
[quote:22a3a] U.S. 'vigilantes' consider monitoring Canadian border
Members of the controversial Minuteman Project, a group of American civilians patrolling the U.S.-Mexican border for illegal immigrants, said Monday they are eyeing plans to begin monitoring the Canadian border for smugglers and terrorists.

Their gonna be pretty cold and lonley out there. Why not just build a giant wall instead?[/quote:22a3a]

The Canadian border is a real concern. It is largely unguarded and the amount of drugs and illegal people needs to stop. It is a bigger problem to the south but that doesnt mean that all is well to the north. Canada has much looser regulations in regards to who they let in thier country from overseas. We just dont want the bad apples to try to sneak accross

ninty 04-19-2005 10:59 AM

I don't know how many illegal people are coming over the border. Yes there are smuggled people from China and North Korea crossing the border, but that pales in comparison to Mexicans crossing over.

All borders are insecure. If someone wants to get across any border, there are ways to do it. No one can ever stop illegal people or drugs from crossing the border unless some sort of enormous shield is built around the entire country. Canada and the US do 2 billion worth of trade every day. When restrictions are put on the legal flow of traffic, then it hurts both countries. The minutemen would probably have no impact of legal crossings, but it seems as though they want to be isolated from the rest of the world, which just isn't possible.

Sgt>Stackem 04-19-2005 11:33 AM

I agree that you cant stop all from sneaking over but this issue needs to be addressed ASAP. Turning a blind eye (as we have done in the past) isnt the answer. It is a major concern of most in the good ole USofA

ninty 04-19-2005 11:46 AM

I agree, although I'm not convinced the minuteman idea is the way to go about it.

Short Hand 04-19-2005 03:21 PM

Canadian Hydro grow = flows over the border with ease.

Sgt>Stackem 05-10-2005 01:44 PM

well Canadians its your turn now
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,156005,00.html




as Pyro said its not the answer its just a demonstration to get the govts attention

Zoner 05-10-2005 02:10 PM

Fill yer boots. I really don't care. If they wanna try checking my car or some shit, they can go right ahead. I just hope their assholes are big enough for a size 13 sneaker.

They will be after I'm done.

ninty 05-10-2005 02:14 PM

I think their going to be pretty bored.

Sgt>Stackem 05-10-2005 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty9
I think their going to be pretty bored.


your prob right, I would think there is more action on the southern border.

Short Hand 05-13-2005 02:50 PM

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050 ... -5055r.htm

Colonel 05-13-2005 07:16 PM

[quote="Short Hand":cf9e7]http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050513-122032-5055r.htm[/quote:cf9e7]

That's unbelieveable. [sarcasm]I'll bet if we completely stop arresting illegals and the number of arrests goes to zero then that will really show up those mean old Minutemen!!!![/sarcasm]

Madmartagen 05-13-2005 09:56 PM

yeah, thats what we need now, to piss of our oldest friends to the north. wtf, if they were so concerned about the canadian border they would have done something a loong time ago to snag those shitty actors and comedians that flooded across in the 80s and 90s. this whole border situation is just another distraction from the bang up job W is doing.

Sgt>Stackem 05-14-2005 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmartagen
yeah, thats what we need now, to piss of our oldest friends to the north. wtf, if they were so concerned about the canadian border they would have done something a loong time ago to snag those shitty actors and comedians that flooded across in the 80s and 90s. this whole border situation is just another distraction from the bang up job W is doing.

it really has nothing to do with Canadians, they wont be at crossings. They will be where ever they have info on illegal crossings. Not 1 citizen of Canada has a thing to be concerned about. I still have no idea why they are even bothering with the northern border, the biggest problems are to the south (unless they have some good info)


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