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6z-8-z=4(z+10) 08-05-2005 03:07 PM

Actually im reading he was shot 7 times in the head

[quote:6aa3d]Menezes did not stop and continued to enter the station, allegedly running. Menezes continued past the ticketing turnstiles, down an escalator and boarded a train. Suspecting that Menezes was about to set off a bomb, officers followed him onto the train, where he was subdued on the floor of the carriage and shot seven times in the head and once in the shoulder with a handgun. He died at the scene.[3][/quote:6aa3d]




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Charles_de_Menezes

Sirus 08-05-2005 03:09 PM

[quote="newt.":ac547]okay akuma, say he was a terrorist... the police stopped him started to search him then he blew up, then everyone is dead, happy now? [/quote:ac547]
But the guy wasnt wearing a heavy jacket, and didnt have any cords, or wires at all hanging out of his pockets

[quote="newt.":ac547]if people are going to blame anyone, blame the terrorists for forcing us to take such extreme measures to ensure the safety of the public.[/quote:ac547]
Thats a very mature response, o well we shot a innoccent man to death 5 times in the head, but the terrorists made us do it

[quote="newt.":ac547]1 time....twice what the fuck does it matter, its in the head. oOo:[/quote:ac547]
exactly, so why 5 times....

6z-8-z=4(z+10) 08-05-2005 03:18 PM

Dude he was shot 7 times in the head and once in the shoulder, not 5

Sirus 08-05-2005 03:20 PM

which is even more fucked up

6z-8-z=4(z+10) 08-05-2005 03:26 PM

And from what i understand a few days before this incident he was mugged by some gangsters. He was probably thinking of this when 20 or so men were running after him yelling

Eight Ace 08-05-2005 04:47 PM

[quote=Sirus]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "newt.":977d2
if people are going to blame anyone, blame the terrorists for forcing us to take such extreme measures to ensure the safety of the public.

Thats a very mature response, o well we shot a innoccent man to death 5 times in the head, but the terrorists made us do it.[/quote:977d2]
yeah you're right, the terrorists had nothing to do with it, it's was just the English
police intentionally overreacting again on what was a perfectly ordinary day in London....
they made the sort of mistake you would never make seeing as you trained with Delta Force.

Of course it's a tragedy that Mr.Menezes was shot....it's also incredible what a good job the English police
are doing (without any further shootings that I know of) to round up these pieces of islamic excrement.

Poseidon 08-05-2005 05:20 PM

[quote="Eight Ace":745a5]
yeah you're right, the terrorists had nothing to do with it, it's was just the English
police intentionally overreacting again on what was a perfectly ordinary day in London....
they made the sort of mistake you would never make seeing as you trained with Delta Force.[/quote:745a5]

Picture yourself as part of the police force - in their shoes. You follow a 'suspect' to a tube station. When challenging him (assuming they did normal procedures by shouting "STOP/FREEZE POLICE!" the suspect fled by running into a TRAIN full of INNOCENT people! The police made a split second decision - to take his life based on his reaction (the exact decision I and probably every member of this board would have done in there position when having no evidence suggesting he's innocent).

What would you have thought if this guy had a bomb, and when tackled having blown the officers and pretty much everyone else up on the train? I know we'd be having this discussion saying "they should have shot the guy, why didnt they shoot him"

I'm all for this rule "shoot to kill", mistakes happen! 1 mistake is better a potential 40 innocent lives having lost (should it have been the other way round.

Eight Ace 08-05-2005 05:26 PM

Poseidon, that quote is 100% sarcasm on my part, I believe
the opposite of that, and more or less agree with you.

6z-8-z=4(z+10) 08-05-2005 05:43 PM

[quote=Poseidon]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Eight Ace":2170b
yeah you're right, the terrorists had nothing to do with it, it's was just the English
police intentionally overreacting again on what was a perfectly ordinary day in London....
they made the sort of mistake you would never make seeing as you trained with Delta Force.

Picture yourself as part of the police force - in their shoes. You follow a 'suspect' to a tube station. When challenging him (assuming they did normal procedures by shouting "STOP/FREEZE POLICE!" the suspect fled by running into a TRAIN full of INNOCENT people! The police made a split second decision - to take his life based on his reaction (the exact decision I and probably every member of this board would have done in there position when having no evidence suggesting he's innocent).

What would you have thought if this guy had a bomb, and when tackled having blown the officers and pretty much everyone else up on the train? I know we'd be having this discussion saying "they should have shot the guy, why didnt they shoot him"

I'm all for this rule "shoot to kill", mistakes happen! 1 mistake is better a potential 40 innocent lives having lost (should it have been the other way round.[/quote:2170b]
Like i said before, the guy was previously mugged by gangsters a few days prior to his death. What would you do when you've gown up in a developing country and the fights are brought to the streets? Violence in Brazil is alot more in your face than it is in any developed country such as the UK. Fact is, he was being chased by plain clothed men and im sure the mugging he recieved earlier was running through his head.

anyone would have ran in his situation

newt. 08-05-2005 05:52 PM

[quote=Sirus]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "newt.":e6fca
okay akuma, say he was a terrorist... the police stopped him started to search him then he blew up, then everyone is dead, happy now?

But the guy wasnt wearing a heavy jacket, and didnt have any cords, or wires at all hanging out of his pockets

[quote="newt.":e6fca]if people are going to blame anyone, blame the terrorists for forcing us to take such extreme measures to ensure the safety of the public.[/quote:e6fca]
Thats a very mature response, o well we shot a innoccent man to death 5 times in the head, but the terrorists made us do it

[quote="newt.":e6fca]1 time....twice what the fuck does it matter, its in the head. oOo:[/quote:e6fca]
exactly, so why 5 times....[/quote:e6fca]

1. lol I think you watch to many cartoons.

2. the terrorists opened our eyes, now if we see someone running towards a train are inital thought could be that they are a suicide bomber, and not just someone late for their train.

3. multiple police, multiple bullets? I dunno maybe? maybe alittle trigger happy? wait not trigger happy just worried (in the "heat of things") that he might still be alive/or have the ability to do something.

also 5 times is all you hippy fucks have, get something new...

Stammer 08-05-2005 06:05 PM

[quote="newt.":d461a]1. lol I think you watch to many cartoons.[/quote:d461a]

What the fuck are you talking about?

[quote="newt.":d461a]2. the terrorists opened our eyes, now if we see someone running towards a train are inital thought could be that they are a suicide bomber, and not just someone late for their train.[/quote:d461a]

So I guess the terrorist DID win?

[quote="newt.":d461a]3. multiple police, multiple bullets? I dunno maybe? maybe alittle trigger happy? wait not trigger happy just worried (in the "heat of things") that he might still be alive/or have the ability to do something.[/quote:d461a]

When your shot in the head at point blank range once, your not doing much. These police officers were irresponsible.

[quote="newt.":d461a]also 5 times is all you hippy fucks have, get something new...[/quote:d461a]

...

plzdie:

KTOG 08-05-2005 06:07 PM

Eight Ace has diplomatic immunity, don't mess with heem.

Short Hand 08-05-2005 07:24 PM

The police acted improperly..period. Stop defending them. Period. Poiseidon, you are just in shock after the first bombing. BUT you have to get your fears out of the way when you do YOUR FUCKING JOB as a police officer. You have to be able to seperate your paranoid self and the cool headed logical police officer that you ARE !. This act was shameful. Yet you all let your paranoid selves take control and you support these rash actions...... 7 times in the head and 1 time in the shoulder is not policing....The my freinds is an execution and victory for ones own over zealous/fearful self.

dr nein 08-05-2005 08:07 PM

Shit happens. Does arguing over the injustice of it all make you all feel important?

Eight Ace 08-05-2005 08:18 PM

[quote="dr nein":22995]Shit happens. Does arguing over the injustice of it all make you all feel important?[/quote:22995]
I believe you're looking for the "fave pizza topping" thread?


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