[quote="Low spark":37d7e]Sorry to rain on the parade, I don't like Saddam, but I don't think the US can really justify invading Iraq. The logic of "he may have or may be devoloping weapon of mass destruction" just doesn't fly. Should we invade China first, they are a bigger threat than Iraq. Mabye we should invade Russia, to make sure all their nukes and biological weopons are destroyed. Just because Cheney and Pappa Bush have a personal vendetta, is no reason to start a war. The reasoning I'm hearing from Washington, says to me, someone ought to invade the US and replace Cheney/Bush because they have access to nukes and bio weopons. I strongly suggest that people step back and think it through. War is wrong, and killing innocent people because you want to prove you have a bigger dick than someone else is stupid.

I know that you all think I'm wrong, but somebody has to speak out against this kind of thing, I am an American, I and I am proud of what Amerca stands for, I don't want to see America become a state that uses its military to "remove" whomever, they don't happen to like at the time, from power.[/quote:37d7e]

You seem to have missed the point entirely. Yes, war is a terrible thing, I have no problem saying this as it is true. But does Saddam need to be removed from power ? Your goddamn right he does. Look at his track record, the guy is a prick, he's a not a fucking cuddly teddy bear. He used kids as human shields in the Gulf War, does that deserve a bullet to the head ? I think so.

Where the hell did you get this "kill innocent people" shit from ?? We never said we wanted innocent people killed. I, personally, want Saddam and his regime ended. He has the power the means and the equipment to launch nuclear, biological and chemical weapons on any country he wants. Do you not think that is a serious problem ?? He wont comply with Weapons Inspectors, he never has and you would have him stay in power, a man who tested chemical weapons on prisoners of war and civilians alike, a man who used children as shields, a man who uses fear to control his population ??

Yes Bush and Cheney have nuclear weapons at their disposal, but they are not fuckheaded enough to use them on a population which would spur on a possible WW3. I dont think they have a personal vendetta, why do you think that ? Saddam supports terrorism, he funds it, and so does Saudi Arabia, Saddam has some of the most deadliest weapons this world has ever seen. THAT seems like reason enough to take him from power. But if you want a madman to stay in power over their who could launch a biological (anthrax, ebola) chemical (sarin, Hydrogen cyanide) or nuclear (I dont think I need to point out the devatation of this weapon) then fine by me, but you and the rest of the "no war in Iraq" people be the first I point the blame on when Saddam does finally start launching weapons indiscriminately.

hmmm... did anyone else here two of sadaams son in laws defected to jordan? (i believe it was jordan...)

i also hear we are setting up some sort of an armorment in kuwait...

FUCK IRAQ UP NOW
 

Taken from Sky News yesterday:

Rumsfeld Warns Of Imminent Attack

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has told the world to expect an attack with a weapon of mass destruction.
His warning came just hours before Saddam Hussein made a televised address to the Iraqi people.

The Iraqi leader has said he won't allow UN inspectors unlimited access to the country amid fears he might have access to such weapons.
While Mr Rumsfeld was certain that an attack will happen, he wasn't so sure what the US should do about it.

He said the "margin for error" was tiny and any response risked affecting hundreds of thousands of people.

But he was adamant that the issue had to be addressed.

"People have to expect there will be an event involving a weapon of mass destruction at some point in the future," Mr Rumsfeld said.

Now this IS fucking scary
Maybe Britain could be seen as an easier target....we're smaller, an attack would do more damage and therefore would be more likely us brits would be wiped out.....jesus christ, im thinking too much....I don't want to die....... :cry:

FUCK IRAQ UP NOW
 

Taken from Sky News yesterday:

Rumsfeld Warns Of Imminent Attack

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has told the world to expect an attack with a weapon of mass destruction.
His warning came just hours before Saddam Hussein made a televised address to the Iraqi people.

The Iraqi leader has said he won't allow UN inspectors unlimited access to the country amid fears he might have access to such weapons.
While Mr Rumsfeld was certain that an attack will happen, he wasn't so sure what the US should do about it.

He said the "margin for error" was tiny and any response risked affecting hundreds of thousands of people.

But he was adamant that the issue had to be addressed.

"People have to expect there will be an event involving a weapon of mass destruction at some point in the future," Mr Rumsfeld said.

Now this IS fucking scary
Maybe Britain could be seen as an easier target....we're smaller, an attack would do more damage and therefore would be more likely us brits would be wiped out.....jesus christ, im thinking too much....I don't want to die....... :cry:

Taken from Sky News yesterday:

Rumsfeld Warns Of Imminent Attack

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has told the world to expect an attack with a weapon of mass destruction.
His warning came just hours before Saddam Hussein made a televised address to the Iraqi people.

The Iraqi leader has said he won't allow UN inspectors unlimited access to the country amid fears he might have access to such weapons.
While Mr Rumsfeld was certain that an attack will happen, he wasn't so sure what the US should do about it.

He said the "margin for error" was tiny and any response risked affecting hundreds of thousands of people.

But he was adamant that the issue had to be addressed.

"People have to expect there will be an event involving a weapon of mass destruction at some point in the future," Mr Rumsfeld said.

Now this IS fucking scary
Maybe Britain could be seen as an easier target....we're smaller, an attack would do more damage and therefore would be more likely us brits would be wiped out.....jesus christ, im thinking too much....I don't want to die....... :cry:

Ummm....Low spark i guess you forgot the fact the 9/11 even took place? HELLO!!! Saddam is a terrorist and if you want to but the blame on anyone for killing innocent people its him. Now lets think about this for a sec.....if you know that Saddam is a terrorist and therefore he could attack the U.S.A., a country which i love and would die for(i shit you not), would you want to a innocent caught in the middle cause you were too stubborn to realize that terrorism is a real threat. I know i personally wouldn't...me or any of my loved ones. We defend what is ours because we want to live the American life. You never know how much you miss something til its gone so dont take America for granted. We stand for whats right in this world and thank god we have people willing to fight for it!!!

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GO USA! I would really like to see Saddam Hussein dead.

from all i hear SCUDs are highly inaccurate. basically they throw it up and guess where its going to land :\

it is russian equipment, based on a WWII era technology....:\

anyways, i hear his son in laws have defected to, jordan i believe it was, and the US are establishing armorments in Kuwait...

should be interesting. Saddam can be taken out just for the fact that he has not let UN weapons inspectors into his country for... 4 years i believe. who knows what crazy shit is going on over there. whatever it is, with a man like him in power, its not acceptable. i think everyone agrees he has to be taken out.

Everyone, including myself, agrees that the US should invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam...the problem is that our country is in recession, and with our economic troubles, a war is the last thing we need.

Bush's Administration have stated before that the US invasion force sent into Iraq would be much smaller than the, what was it, 300,000 troops that were sent into the Gulf. While everyone agrees that the 300,000 was overkill, sending in less troops would probably mean that the war would last much longer, even with our advanced technology. And who knows what Saddam has up his sleeve. We know that he has rebuilt his army, but are we absolutely positive that they would surrender at the overwhelming force of the US led coalition. And what kind of weapons is he hiding? How do we know he hasn't been biding his time waiting for the right moment to take out as many americans as possible, whether it be by gas, chemical, or, worse-case scenario... nuclear.

I don't like this political talk, so I'll stop, but the point is that this gung-ho attitude that we must go into Iraq and topple this ruthless dictator is going to cost our country. It will cost the US money and many American Lives.

I will end this useless rant with a joke I heard from Sam Kinison regarding the Scud Missle in the Persian Gulf...


You can't f*ck with the United States, because we have the smart bomb. But wait, the Iraqis had the weapon of doom, they had the Scud Missle...and if K-Mart was a weapons dealer, they would sell the Scud missle. Yeah, it's kind of like the F*cking Smart bomb. You see, what you do is, you fire it out of the back seat of your car...woooosssshhh. And then you go home and turn on CNN to see where it landed (laughter), so yeah, it's KINDA like the smart bomb.

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I think we (US) should attack Saddam to get him out. He will probably hide in some place we would have to take much care to infiltrate like residential areas. And we need some way of preventing a biological weapon from hitting us because I pretty sure if he knows he's going down he'll use whatever he has. :roll:

Man why cant we all just get along lol it seems theres gotta be a war every 20 years..See for yourself.. :o

well..
 

some ppl how front row seats here like me (i live in israel) as usual ppl are worried here we just might 1 missile packed with goodies if u know what i mean how ever every one has the lovely bomb shelter made out of cement and led and every one has his gas mask and some ppl like me even have our won lovely full body nucler,bio,chemicel protection suit and our own little protected vehicle


fun is coming and it's shaped like flying pointy things

i still say he probably doesnt know whats coming.

Taken from Sky News the other day:

Rumsfeld Warns Of Imminent Attack

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has told the world to expect an attack with a weapon of mass destruction.
His warning came just hours before Saddam Hussein made a televised address to the Iraqi people.

The Iraqi leader has said he won't allow UN inspectors unlimited access to the country amid fears he might have access to such weapons.
While Mr Rumsfeld was certain that an attack will happen, he wasn't so sure what the US should do about it.

He said the "margin for error" was tiny and any response risked affecting hundreds of thousands of people.

But he was adamant that the issue had to be addressed.

"People have to expect there will be an event involving a weapon of mass destruction at some point in the future," Mr Rumsfeld said.

Now this IS fucking scary
Maybe Britain could be seen as an easier target....we're smaller, an attack would do more damage and therefore would be more likely us brits would be wiped out.....jesus christ, im thinking too much....I don't want to die....... :cry: