chick+thompson=keeper :D

HEY, :wink:

lol

that thompson looks pretty big when your daughter is holding it, is it a different model? im assuming its just proportions.

[quote="Sicilian_Summers":19d3f]lol

that thompson looks pretty big when your daughter is holding it, is it a different model? im assuming its just proportions.[/quote:19d3f]

Its the long barrel version...i think.

Americans have such.........odd........views on guns.

[quote="Wolf-Man":1864d]Americans have such.........odd........views on guns.[/quote:1864d]

Yes, we do. nice GUN in the sig by the way.

[quote="Sicilian_Summers":e4e8b]chick+thompson=keeper :D[/quote:e4e8b]

:lol:

[quote="Low spark":7317b][quote="Wolf-Man":7317b]Americans have such.........odd........views on guns.[/quote:7317b]

Yes, we do. nice GUN in the sig by the way.[/quote:7317b]

Sure, but I don't keep 20 automatic ones in my house :)

I havent used any kind of gun aswell
but I will in the futare since I live in israel and will be forced to join the army after all
although thats not a 100% sure since I might not choose to be in battle..
after all that aint no game.. its kill or get killed for real, live moving targets ;)

Hey Rudedog, nice pics of the kids. I have never taken the kids to a range, but we do shoot targets at my wife's grandfather's cabin every Thanksgiving. It's kind of a family tradition now. They get to shoot a .22 Henry like yours and a .410 double-barrel shotgun. I grew up hunting with my Dad and I want to pass on that tradition to my kids. Problem is, I've got two girls too, and I can't get them interested in hunting. Your doing the right thing teaching them about safety. The best thing that my Dad ever taught me about safety is, even if you have spent hours examining a gun and are 100% sure it is not loaded, NEVER point it at anybody.

Low Spark, I admire your decision to put aside your feelings about guns long enough to teach your children the basics in how to handle them for the sake of safety. I also understand your feelings about guns in light of the folks you know who have been killed with one. I have known one myself. However, I know many more who have been saved by them. For example, a couple of years ago a young guy tried to break into my father's house (he's 75). Even after this, twenty-something year old, kid saw my Dad through the window, he continued to try to bust through the door (and was close to succeeding). It wasn't until my father raised the pistol up from his side that the kid ran away. I have no doubt that my father would not be here today if he had not been armed.

For those of you in the US who like guns, fight for your rights or the US will end up like Canada, Australia, and England with gun ownership either completely outlawed or so severe that your gun must be kept at a gun club (some countries have laws for pistols only, but some also outlaw private ownership of shotguns as well). Alot of good that does you when there is a guy in your house. "Oh excuse me, could you stop raping my wife and kids until I have time to run down to the club and back?" :roll: (Sorry for the diatribe Rude - I didn't get this fanatical until the incident with my Dad.)

And for those of you who fear guns, please remember --- guns don't kill people, bullets kill people. Guns just make bullets go really, really fast. :)

Beautiful collection Rude, I'm jealous. A Thompson has always been on the top of my wish list.

[quote="Wolf-Man":dc8a2][quote="Low spark":dc8a2][quote="Wolf-Man":dc8a2]Americans have such.........odd........views on guns.[/quote:dc8a2]

Yes, we do. nice GUN in the sig by the way.[/quote:dc8a2]

Sure, but I don't keep 20 automatic ones in my house :)[/quote:dc8a2]

I don't have 20 automatics or any kind of gun in my house. Never have never will. I have my daughter learning gun safety, not because I believe they should get one, but because I know for sure that 2 of my neighbors have guns in there houses(for protection?). And no matter how careful people are, mistakes happen(I lost 2 childhood friends to guns, one found his fathers pistol, the had his face blown off by his best friend, who didn't know his new shotgun was loaded)
If you ask most of gun owners, they will tell you the Constitution gives them the right arm themselves. And quite honestly, I've given up on fighting with them about it, I guess their freedom is more important than mine.
Flame me if you want. Freedom of speech is my favorite freedom.

I don't have any intention of flaming anyone. All I'm saying is that Americans (those I know, not all, obviously) are brought up differently from Australians.

I'll see if I can choose the right words here...

Americans, guns = protection.
Australians, guns = aggression.

Americans, whether it be because of your civil war or something, and they way your constitution is, think its odd if you DON'T have guns. The right to bear arms and all that.

Here, its like, if you have a gun, you intend to kill someone, or you wouldn't have it.

I don't have statistics or anything like that to back me up, nor do I really want to. Its just my opinion on how I see the different gun cultures.

yeah, I agree Wolf-Man.....you hear people saying "don't become like Australia" etc.,
but I don't see tough gun laws as reducing my "freedom", I see it as improving Australian society.
It seems to me that the protection argument is valid only because guns are so common in the U.S., seems like everyones packing!
It doesn't mean crims here can't get guns....but it stops a lot of spur-of-the -moment incidents.
Anyway...I agree with our stance.

[quote="Low spark":34b53]But I still think it's important that my daughters understand the dangers involved, and how to handle a gun. Unfortantly we live in a society where to many people have guns that should'nt have them......I'll stop now before I start ranting...[/quote:34b53]

Fortunately I live in a country where civilian owned guns are illegal. There is virtually no chance of a child getting hold of one so teaching them how to handle it is not needed. The best form of gun safety? Not touching.

[quote="Wolf-Man":e3ec5]I don't have any intention of flaming anyone. All I'm saying is that Americans (those I know, not all, obviously) are brought up differently from Australians.

I'll see if I can choose the right words here...

Americans, guns = protection.
Australians, guns = aggression.[/quote:e3ec5]

I can see that, except for me a gun only has one purpose... to kill. That is what it is designed to do. It is an aggressive piece of equipment.

[quote:e3ec5]Americans, whether it be because of your civil war or something, and they way your constitution is, think its odd if you DON'T have guns. The right to bear arms and all that. [/quote:e3ec5]

This is the poorest excuse that one can use. It is 2002, there are no bears or native indians you need to shoot. Before hand weapons served a valuable purpose in a fledgling society. Those who bring up the constitution (and I might add basing your argument on a piece of paper whose other points don't even work in practise is rather poor thinking) need to get their minds out of the 19th century.

As for defending your house... most people end up getting shot by their own guns. The stats just don't support the idea that your property/family is safer with a weapon "guarding" it.