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SEATO (Japan, South Korea) have nothing to lose and everything to gain by siding with the US. Japan has a very good Naval squadron of Aegis destroyers and a modern air force. I have also heard that Korean Marines are pretty badass. |
well put ballisticwookie guy.
You guys are all twisting this thing around nobody makes allies or anything it is just United States vs. Europe IMO Europe ends just west of Russia and it does not include Russia so that means like US and Canada don't ally it's just straight up US and Europe. |
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I'd fight for Europe. I don't have any American blood in me. I'd be on the next plane to Berlin and I'd volunteer for the Bundeswehr. If I die from a missle I cannot see, so be it. It is in my genetic disposition to defend my people.
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[quote="Office Depot":83506]well put ballisticwookie guy.
You guys are all twisting this thing around nobody makes allies or anything it is just United States vs. Europe IMO Europe ends just west of Russia and it does not include Russia so that means like US and Canada don't ally it's just straight up US and Europe.[/quote:83506] Russia is part of Europe. |
WRONG! Russia is both asia and europe
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[quote="Stinger_Dude":137de][quote="Office Depot":137de]well put ballisticwookie guy.
You guys are all twisting this thing around nobody makes allies or anything it is just United States vs. Europe IMO Europe ends just west of Russia and it does not include Russia so that means like US and Canada don't ally it's just straight up US and Europe.[/quote:137de] Russia is part of Europe.[/quote:137de] yeah, but they rarely if ever side with the other Europeans |
[quote="Stinger_Dude":a642b][quote="Office Depot":a642b]well put ballisticwookie guy.
You guys are all twisting this thing around nobody makes allies or anything it is just United States vs. Europe IMO Europe ends just west of Russia and it does not include Russia so that means like US and Canada don't ally it's just straight up US and Europe.[/quote:a642b] Russia is part of Europe.[/quote:a642b] 30% isn't enough of it to count, its in Asia |
I'd sit back, watch you all annihilate each other, then go and have sex with all your wives.
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with a crazy mofo like gerard fighting for europe, there is no question who would win, he's fucked up man, he'll wreck you all oOo:
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[quote="Old Reliable":cdbad]WRONG! Russia is both asia and europe[/quote:cdbad]
Wrong again. Russia is part of Europe Geographically and Politically since the central government and 90% of the population is based in the western part of Russia technically making it part of Europe. Siberia is part of Asia. |
[quote="Sgt Stryker":3c464][quote="Stinger_Dude":3c464][quote="Office Depot":3c464]well put ballisticwookie guy.
You guys are all twisting this thing around nobody makes allies or anything it is just United States vs. Europe IMO Europe ends just west of Russia and it does not include Russia so that means like US and Canada don't ally it's just straight up US and Europe.[/quote:3c464] Russia is part of Europe.[/quote:3c464] yeah, but they rarely if ever side with the other Europeans[/quote:3c464] World war 2 ring a bell? oOo: |
[quote="CaP bUsTa":e25c8]with a crazy mofo like gerard fighting for europe, there is no question who would win, he's fucked up man, he'll wreck you all oOo:[/quote:e25c8]
LOL thanks for the vote of confidence............i think......... eek: |
- Russia not in Europe?
Russia is located in Europe and Asia. They are partner of the EU. Enough European for you? - European nations balls (concerning Iraq)? Definitely Poland, Spain, UK (yeah, let's start a debate if the UK is European or not). - Russia rarely to side with other European nations? Germany and France <-> Iraq? WWII? Or do they side often with the US, in cold wars and stuff? Hey. - In the EU live around 320 million people, in Europe about 700 million (that's including the Russian part). Not billions. In Asia live billions of people. - It took six pages of topic, but I always like being called 'Eurotrash', hehe. - And why always this Old world <-> New world thing? It's stupid. We're allies. |
don't tell me that russia is europe. if you go past Ural mountains it is asia, and that makes up for the majority of the country. It's true that Moscow is located on the european side and makes all the decisions, but the country remains of asian descent
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[quote="Old Reliable":5d4af]don't tell me that russia is europe. if you go past Ural mountains it is asia, and that makes up for the majority of the country. It's true that Moscow is located on the european side and makes all the decisions, but the country remains of asian descent[/quote:5d4af]
But the culture is closer to European though, alphabet is based off Greek, main religion (before Communists) was Christian (Orthodox), etc. |
depends on your definition of european, as the orthodox church was located in the past ottoman empire. a large number of russians are of asian descent, but even less so after the breakup of CCCP. Russia is a unique country in that it is in two continents. some will argue it is more european, while others that it is more asian. travel past the Ural mountains and you will find it to be a mix of both...
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The larger part of the population lives in the European part of Russia. Language is Slavic (Indo-European). Mainly. 82% of the population is Christian (Russian-Orthodox). Also, the Russian race is Europide. European enough for ya? (I already knew about these facts, Geography classes, long time ago, but I looked them up to make sure) He who thinks Russia isn't European is mistaken. Geographically, the larger part is on the continent of Asia, that's about the only valid argument. It is both Asia and Europe. So it's Asian. And European. As far as I am concerned, they are allowed to join in what probably would be the biggest conflict in the history of mankind. The biggest hypothetical conflict as well. New vs Old 290 million vs 700 million Haute Cuisine vs McDonalds... biggrin: |
Russia doesn't count as Europe because I said so, and I am the one that made the topic! All countries west of Russia and that are in Europe count.
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[quote="Office Depot":3758f]Russia doesn't count as Europe because I said so, and I am the one that made the topic! All countries west of Russia and that are in Europe count.[/quote:3758f]
Well what you say is wrong, its part of europe as well so it counts. |
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well he set up the original scenario, so I guess he can modify it however he wants. anyway this makes my job as naval analyst simpler. without the firepower of the Kirov cruisers and Kursk subs (Kursk is not the class name though, I forgot the class name) and their "granit" SSMs it makes the naval supremacy game a whole new ballgame. |
[quote="Old Reliable":9bf9b]depends on your definition of european, as the orthodox church was located in the past ottoman empire. a large number of russians are of asian descent, but even less so after the breakup of CCCP. Russia is a unique country in that it is in two continents. some will argue it is more european, while others that it is more asian. travel past the Ural mountains and you will find it to be a mix of both...[/quote:9bf9b]
The orthodox was never lcoated in the ottomon empire. It was located in Trukey during the era of the Byzantine Empire but when the Turks captured Constaninople they turned the cathedral into a Mosque. The Orthodox then moved north towards Russia. |
[Made this post last night and it seems to have mysteriously vanished - If I double post, blame the forum]
Russia is a part of Europe because the Eurovision Song Contest says so! Now, there's another totally redundant conflict. Incidentally, it's funny that, considering a lot of posters on this thread have condemned it for its redundancy, it has lasted for 7 pages and without any considerable flaming, either! That's not bad going for aa.com, now is it? |
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Oh yeah my post vanished as well and appeared like 3 days later. Whats up with that? |
Israel also took part in the Eurovision Song Contest.
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I'll play along with this farfetched hypothetical situation. First off, when has all of Europe ever been able to ban together for any war. as a matter of fact WWI, WWII, and a majority of previous wars are inter European skirmishes that have managed to drag the rest of the world into it. In contridition, when the USA has been attacked or threatened, the people ralley together. Not naming any specific countries, but some of them owe their freedom they have today( including criticizing the USA) to the USA. If the USA attacked Europe, I highly doubt that all European countries would form a unified front, That being said, the US would incur too many casualties and probably withdraw in concession ( aka vietnam). If Europe attacked the USA, very high casualties(both sides) but Europe would definitely lose. Not only would Europe have to beat a strong military on its homeland, but the American people would unite and every guy with a shotgun would be in the battle. No one has ever defeated the USA on its homeland except the USA itself in the civil war
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usa would win hands down
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regardless, at that time of the byzantine, russia was an outsider
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u = oOo: Were talking billions here against how many? Pfft sure. |
this thread is the funneh
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Tomcats, Hornet and Harriers vs. Rafales and Harriers, Ticos and Burkes vs Type 42s and froggy DDGs, B-2s and B-52s vs...converted Concordes?? :biggrin Nimitzes vs the Charles de Gaulle. Btween the US Navy and Air Force the Europeans would have a tough time getting across "the pond", those that got ashore intact would get wiped out by our redneck militia patrols evil: |
god bless those crazy rednecks
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Tomcats, Hornet and Harriers vs. Rafales and Harriers, Ticos and Burkes vs Type 42s and froggy DDGs, B-2s and B-52s vs...converted Concordes?? :biggrin Nimitzes vs the Charles de Gaulle. Btween the US Navy and Air Force the Europeans would have a tough time getting across "the pond", those that got ashore intact would get wiped out by our redneck militia patrols evil:[/quote:102ca] Well that was an interesting pile of bollocks. I see the oOo: is strong with you. |
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Tomcats, Hornet and Harriers vs. Rafales and Harriers, Ticos and Burkes vs Type 42s and froggy DDGs, B-2s and B-52s vs...converted Concordes?? :biggrin Nimitzes vs the Charles de Gaulle. Btween the US Navy and Air Force the Europeans would have a tough time getting across "the pond", those that got ashore intact would get wiped out by our redneck militia patrols evil:[/quote:c04d9] lol good point man |
I think not, the most important aspect of an inter-continental non-nuclear war is air and naval power.
Does Europe have a counter to the 100 nautical mile AIM-54 Phoenix missile? No plane, American or otherwise, can stand up to a Tomcat, they have a lock and a missile away before the other guy is even in range. With a "world war" going on one would assume that jetliners stay grounded so Tomcats would be free to shoot first rather than closing to visual like in the small conflicts. |
doh, that last one was a responsw to Gerard
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america is a terrifying country
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