[quote="Eight Ace":c7f15]Perhaps being trained that Islam is all and muslims have no equal
creates problems when relocating to countries are built on equality for all. eek:

Do you imagine that these kind of proposals are just grabbed out of thin air?,
that the percieved negative impact of the Islamic population and the experiences
of non-muslim French people have not forced these issues to be addressed?

...so what if you "don't buy it"...show some respect for why they apparently do.[/quote:c7f15]

Boy that helps a lot, thanks. rolleyes:

Which part of what I'm trying to say is confusing to you and I'll try my best to clarify.

Perhaps being trained that Islam is all and muslims have no equal

[quote="General Cobra":ad771][quote="[muted]strvs":ad771]So you would glady bring the same pain upon a muslim family by killing their siblings right?[/quote:ad771]

Yeah thats it man. You're so right. That's a stupid idea. rolleyes: But if I had the chance Id kill every motherfucking one of the siblings related to the cocksucker that killed mine.

You can all go fuck yourselves for being a bunch of low life pricks about a subject you don't even come close to understanding.[/quote:ad771]

OOOoooOoo......Cobra - I hope you fucking die a horrible, disgusting death, and your own family spits on your prejudice hate-mongering ass when you're being lowered six feet under.

Stop fucking whining about your dead family - You're just using it as an excuse to be a stupid cock-harrassing wankface.

Infact - I bet those members of your family were like second cousins to you....probably weren't even related.

DIE, Muther-Fucker, DIE! ........Fucking bitch.

...there are many sides to my argument there, but the main one is that Islam will not separate religion and state,
and my response to you about the experience that I hear about in Europe and see first hand here in Sydney, is that
this belief seems to override everything else, including the laws of their adopted countries.

Just pretend it's not occurring if that makes you comfy....
while those who are actually affected and involved will have to deal with reality.

OK, understood, but I don't get your point.

ok, you educate me then...what in your opinion is it that brings even talk of this type of legislation to the fore..?

I don't know. I don't live in France, i've never been to France, and i've never gone to a public school in France.

outstanding point there ^ rock:

That's all irrelevant, and it's not just schools...
what is your opinion of the current French/muslim experience, and what do you base it on?

I don't have any experience.

All i'm basing this on is the Atricle posted by VAC.

What i'm grappling with is if the Government has a right to take away someone's freedom to wear something that is of religion to them. be it a cross or a scarf. I don't know the answer. As I said before, ban everything, or ban nothing.

What also troubles me is that it says "Supporters say the ban is needed to preserve France's secular tradition." If they want to preserve the French tradition, don't allow immigrants entry into the country.

I'm not examining the roots of the "problem", just trying to decide which route should be turned into law.

Ok, well sorry to have wasted your time because it's only the roots of the problem that really interest me,
...the wearing of muslim scarves, jewish skull caps, christian chunky crucifictions and wigger oversize
clocks are all merely fashion crimes if looked at at that level.

[quote=Tripper][quote="General Cobra":f30d2]Yeah thats it man. You're so right. That's a stupid idea. rolleyes: But if I had the chance Id kill every motherfucking one of the siblings related to the cocksucker that killed mine.

You can all go fuck yourselves for being a bunch of low life pricks about a subject you don't even come close to understanding.[/quote:f30d2]

OOOoooOoo......Cobra - I hope you fucking die a horrible, disgusting death, and your own family spits on your prejudice hate-mongering ass when you're being lowered six feet under.

Stop fucking whining about your dead family - You're just using it as an excuse to be a stupid cock-harrassing wankface.

Infact - I bet those members of your family were like second cousins to you....probably weren't even related.

DIE, Muther-Fucker, DIE! ........Fucking bitch.[/quote:f30d2]

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im sorry, but i wont ever have respect for france since they didnt help us.

[quote=Tripper][quote="General Cobra":93042]Yeah thats it man. You're so right. That's a stupid idea. rolleyes: But if I had the chance Id kill every motherfucking one of the siblings related to the cocksucker that killed mine.

You can all go fuck yourselves for being a bunch of low life pricks about a subject you don't even come close to understanding.[/quote:93042]

OOOoooOoo......Cobra - I hope you fucking die a horrible, disgusting death, and your own family spits on your prejudice hate-mongering ass when you're being lowered six feet under.

Stop fucking whining about your dead family - You're just using it as an excuse to be a stupid cock-harrassing wankface.

Infact - I bet those members of your family were like second cousins to you....probably weren't even related.

DIE, Muther-Fucker, DIE! ........Fucking bitch.[/quote:93042]

That's crossing the line, Tripper. This will end now.