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[quote:05b8c]Nepalese man marries dog to ensure luck - and then dies






KATHMANDU : A 75-year-old man in Nepal married a dog in a local custom to ensure good luck only to die three days later, a newspaper reported on Wednesday.

With his son and other relatives by his side, Phulram Chaudhary tied the knot with a dog Saturday in Durgauli village in the southwestern Kailali district.

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He was following a custom of his Tharu community which holds that an old man who regrows teeth must take a dog as a bride.

"He believed that this would help him avoid great misfortune later in life.

However, he died a few days afterward," the state-run daily Gorkhapatra said. - CNA


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what did you expect from people in that part of the world?

First off, I didnt read anyhing after the page that I first posted, so Im not trying to answer anyone...


All Im trying to say is that gays are a potentiall threat to society. Maybe not today, maybe not in the next 100-1000 years, but if it is allowed now, someday distant from now, it might be considered Straight and that would mean less babies...

And yes, straight sex also creates STD's but gay sex just adds more...

[quote="Cpl. Eames":85b02]And:

[quote:85b02]Nepalese man marries dog to ensure luck - and then dies






KATHMANDU : A 75-year-old man in Nepal married a dog in a local custom to ensure good luck only to die three days later, a newspaper reported on Wednesday.

With his son and other relatives by his side, Phulram Chaudhary tied the knot with a dog Saturday in Durgauli village in the southwestern Kailali district.

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He was following a custom of his Tharu community which holds that an old man who regrows teeth must take a dog as a bride.

"He believed that this would help him avoid great misfortune later in life.

However, he died a few days afterward," the state-run daily Gorkhapatra said. - CNA


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what did you expect from people in that part of the world?[/quote:85b02]

Does that mean they have to do it doggy style? rock:

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":ba2c0]Homosexuality and even lesbian sex is un-natural. There is no point to it and I DONT AGREE WITH IT. Fuck them and thier lifestyle, I can't believe society now a days. THERE IS NO POINT in sticking your dick in another mans ass, and the same with strapping on a dildo and sticking it inside a woman if you're a lesbian. That is totally un-natural and there is really no point to it. Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

More power to Bush because I don't want to watch faggots kissing in the mall, or have my kids watch that sick shit. ALLOT of people don't agree with it but "accept" it. But don't go out and force this shit on people.

What's next? Marriage between an animal, or a non-living thing? Better yet, let's legalise child porn! rolleyes:[/quote:ba2c0]

Hate-Monger. hake:

I knew a bloke once who told me he liked to shag dogs,
"Shagging dogs!?" I gasped "How low can you get?"
"Oh, say...a chihuahua." was his totally unsatisfactory response. rolleyes:

you are obsessed with the homos.

GENTLEMEN ,

1st. Let me show you where I am coming from so nobody thinks I am something I am not:

I am married ( happily ) with 2 small children.

I have an Uncle with a boyfriend and a mother-in-law with a girlfriend.

2nd. Now , If two people decide to create a legal union and they are of the same sex why would that bother anybody?

..... You may say religion , Religion is the oldest concept on the face of the planet. It is the mother of war and power. We have been intelligent enough to begin to overcome religion with the acceptance of other views and new standards. Change will continue to come to religion , until it becomes what it was meant to be..... Spirtitual Awareness. Once that point is reached , the " rules " will no longer apply.

So religion is not a valid reason. ALL religions teach us we are not to JUDGE the actions of others.

...... You may say Familly , and if you have I am appauled. Familly is an institution built on the teachings and morales of our decendents. YOUR familly is what you make it. There are thousands of famillys that teach their children violance , hate , and intollerance. ONE must make the standard for their familly themselves. The " Institution " of familly is not in danger from a persons sex life , it is in danger from Faulty Morales and HATE.

So Familly is not a valid reason. Each Familly makes for itself its own legacy and is only as strong as its weakest member. Famillys must strive for union on the members of its own.

...... You may say It is unnatural or " not right ". This is the most biased excuss yet. The fact that we move around in machines and fly in airplanes are unnatural. We mass produce animals to slauter them for mass food , we go to the surgen for tummytucks and facelifts , hell we have DENTURES! Our society is growing in both awareness and Technology. We must accept ourselves as constantly changing beings as well as the technology we produce.

So Unnatural is not a valid reason. Our entire society is operating on types of " unnatural " change and growth.


...... You may say Economics and STD Danger. In the terms of STDs , We are not the only creatures on the planet evolving. Simple virus' and diseases will continue to grow more effective in time. I do not believe the sexual practaces of people will have or has had enough of an effect to make these virus' and diseases more lethal.
As far as Economics are concerned , I really don't see how death benifits or health care plans will suffer from same sex unions. It may raise prices? So would me having a third child.......


3rd. Marrage :

Marrage is what has been taught in my familly as what you should do once you find the one you love. It is the precursor to children and starting your own familly.
Should that term be used to decribe same-sex unions? Why not?
. It will not make my marrage any less valid.
. It will not change the standards set in my home in terms of marrage.
. It will not harm the ballance in my familly , or in my childrens lives.


4th. Children :

I have two small children that are around my Mother-in-law often , I do not worry about them becoming GAY or seeing something they shouldn't. Because our familly has standards. We do not push any form of religion , sex or politics on our children. We teach what things are , how they work , and why they are the way they are.
I am confident that my children will grow to mirror myself and my wife , not outside influences.


And finally : If you actually read all that , wow , I am impressed. lol!

My intention is not to disrepute anyones views. I only want to make the point that we must be understanding on all views and circumstances.

We must not judge others and their prefences.

WTF? you cant make an argument on this forum w/o calling someone a fag, asshat, or make some crude reference to their geographical region. Other than that I agree with you 100% and am a bit envious that you were able to make a much better argument than me. beer:

also, you can't ignore the fact that there have been gay people for thousands of years annoy:

[quote="Eight Ace":7c1fe]I knew a bloke once who told me he liked to shag dogs,
"Shagging dogs!?" I gasped "How low can you get?"
"Oh, say...a chihuahua." was his totally unsatisfactory response. rolleyes:[/quote:7c1fe]

lmao...

True, but some people seem to think that despite homosexuality existing prior to the birth of Christ (the foundation of their so-called morality), it is still wrong and cannot be tolerated.

GG ignorance.

A large portion of Christian ethics and morality is based upon the laws of the Old Testament, the faith of the Hebrew people which dates back nearly to the beginning of recorded history, when things were still scribed in cuniform.

You missed the point entirely fucknut:

The point is that homosexuality has been around since before Christianity, before recorded writing, and before ANY religion or civilized society ever existed. So before you get your Rev Schuller on, try and understand that humanity doesnt always revolve around the christian faith, or any other faith for that matter. GG for trying to sound intelligent though, just take the dick out of your mouth before you start talking.

The word ignorance is thrown around too much these days, hes ignorant for not knowing that?

[quote="Old Reliable":c1920]its about time. fuck president bush and his anti-gay policies. who is he to decide? that is unless god is speaking to him rolleyes:[/quote:c1920]

Idiots, you pro-gay marrige morons ever wonder why there are so many people against it?

Because it's against their religion. Anybody who's catholic should know that. The purpose of marrige is for two people to come together, and make life. That's not possible when you got 2 fags banging each others in the ass.

edit: Sorry, too. My comment is basically ofn. rolleyes:

Bush and Kerry are against gay marriage...and either Bush or Kerry will win the election. So im happy about that. happy:

You missed his point entirely, the point of the matter is not that homosexuality has been around since before christ, who cares? That does not make it any more valid. He's saying that its been against western-juedeo-christian values for thousands of years, the same values that this country was built upon and you can't force people to accept homosexual marriages as being the same as a marriage between a man and a women. Thats what the issue is, when someone decides to be gay they should know they are sacraficing certain rights and privlages, no one is telling them they can't be gay...but that you can't get married because a "marriage" which has been defined since the begining of time as something between a man and a women. Two homosexual "partners" can not be married, they cant, its not what marriage is.


Secondly, a point I brought up earlier which no one has even addressed is what would happen if gay marriages were legalized throughout the nation as a result of a supreme court ruling. That ruling would serve as a precedent for other sicko's and perverts to get their demented fetishes legalized, because if homosexual marriages are legal why couldnt poligomy be legalized too? The implications and precedents that legalizing homosexual marriages are what most people who understand the issue are against. Because they know it would serve as a precedent that would be used to get things such as poligomy legalized, because homosexual marriages would have redefined what marriage is. It would destroy the family because a family is defined as a husband, wife, and children...however now a days there are much more single parent families, the last thing we need is a guy having 3 wives and 10 kids and two homos adopting a kid...it would destroy the family as we know it and further degenerate our society.

Its bad enough you fucking liberals want to take god out of our public lives, but leave the fucking concept of marriage and families alone.

I could care less if gay marriage is legalized or not, I'm not old enough to understand anything regarding the sacredness of marriage or what have you.

But, too all those who oppose gay marriage, would you perhaps, accept it if it wasn't called marriage but rather gay union?

nothing but fairy tails

[quote="Low spark":5724b]People are afraid of same sex marriages because they it as been been beaten into their head by society in general the homosexuality is a desease. that gay people are not normal, cannot lead normal lives and prey on children, spread AIDs.... Like everything else, rather than try to understand that these people are just like you and me(except for sexual oreintation) we tend hatethem out of fear. If you are comfortable with your on sexuality, it should not make any differnce what someone elses prefernces are. Americans need to shed the false puritan mantel and open their eyes.[/quote:5724b]

People aren't against gays you tard. The argument here is about gay people getting married.

christians tell us to love everyone equally, but not let gay people do what they want oOo: sounds like it has a little hitler in it eh?

Fuck Religion.

All that bullshit had lead us to wars, death, violence, depression and list goes fucking on.

Everyone thinks they are better than the other, everyone thinks their religion is the best.

I can't wiat till this entire fucking world grows the fuck up and realize...gay or straight...we are all fucking equal and just necause we are christian, muslim, hindu, budist,a thiest...whatever the fuck we are...we are fucking equal and we should not base our fucking laws on the contradictions and coruptions of the catholic christian religion.

My thoughts exactly. good goin pyro.

i hope me and my partner get to be married

[quote="Old Reliable":c166b]christians tell us to love everyone equally, but not let gay people do what they want oOo: sounds like it has a little hitler in it eh?[/quote:c166b]

omfg. Gays are not allowed to get married. THAT'S IT. They can still worship however they want and do whatever they want. The only reason they can't be married is because it's against the Christian/Jewish religion.

You pro-gay marriage people are like, "Why do the christians/jews have anything to do with gays getting married?"

Where the fuck else is a gay couple going to marry? You can't just go down to City Hall and say, "make me and him married." It's against the Christian/Jewish religion and that's the way it is. It's been like that for years, nevermind why, but how could somebody change the bible?

Unless these gays were some religion that I don't even know about, then I don't see where they'd get married.

[quote="dude, just leave":d8a35]i hope me and my partner get to be married[/quote:d8a35]

is your name the gay blade? if it is, hi

[quote=Merlin122]is your name the gay blade? if it is, hi[/quote:4ef49]
huh

You can't prove that homosexuality existed anymore than I can prove that it didn't. However, there has never been any reference to homosexuality found in cave drawings or in the translated cuniform writings of the earliest Mediterranean people, who are generally accepted to be the origin of the human race. This is probably because those people still had instinct and common sense going for them and realized they shouldn't be cramming their dicks up someone's shitter. And take your lame attempts at one-liners elsewhere, trying to close with one makes it obvious that you're on the losing side of an argument.

[quote="[muted]strvs":225f7]The word ignorance is thrown around too much these days, hes ignorant for not knowing that?[/quote:225f7]

ignorance

n : the lack of knowledge or education

Which is precisely what all the pro-gay marriage people are saying, but here is my question:

Laws have been passed just so that gay people can feel more secure or comfortable or whatever. Society has imposed upon me the mandate that I must be in acceptance of their life choices. However, it's perfectly fine for them to be vocally intolerant of my religion and seek legislation that may as well slap my beliefs in the face. This is about hypocracy folks. Fucking liberals.

noctis layin the smackdown

A Fanatical conservative is just as bad as a Fanatical liberal.

It just seems the Liberals have the rights and freedoms of the people as more important.

I'm all for equality. With equilibrium of society, there would be a lot less strife and nothing to stress about. It would be uptopia - perfect. But human nature itself denies us perfection, and therefore the uptopian society that liberal and PC fanatics pursue. I'm a realist. And I'm all about treating people fairly.

What pisses me off about this whole situation is that I - as a young, white, American, Christian male - am expected to be tolerant of EVERYTHING while practically EVERYONE takes shots at my race and my beliefs. And then if I retaliate, I'm either a racist, a bigot or intolerant. And you can't tell me that's not the way it is.

[quote="Sicilian_Summers":de10d]
But, too all those who oppose gay marriage, would you perhaps, accept it if it wasn't called marriage but rather gay union?[/quote:de10d]

Yes, I would. I don't care what they do as long as they don't call their union "marriage." Because that's simply not what it is.

[quote="SW-14":425d9][quote="Sicilian_Summers":425d9]
But, too all those who oppose gay marriage, would you perhaps, accept it if it wasn't called marriage but rather gay union?[/quote:425d9]

Yes, I would. I don't care what they do as long as they don't call their union "marriage." Because that's simply not what it is.[/quote:425d9]

Just to back SW-14, I think several of us have already made this clear in this thread. The big argument is that they want to call it marriage, which is a union defined by religion itself. I don't care what they want to call it, but if they call it marriage then that is being disrespectful to my religion and intolerant of MY beliefs.

[quote="Sicilian_Summers":3f272]
But, too all those who oppose gay marriage, would you perhaps, accept it if it wasn't called marriage but rather gay union?[/quote:3f272]

I wouldn't mind, as long as they didn't get, "unified" in a Catholic/Jewish/Any Religious worshipping center that doesn't accept gay marriage.

[quote=Proteus]I wouldn't mind, as long as they didn't get, "unified" in a Catholic/Jewish/Any Religious worshipping center that doesn't accept gay marriage.[/quote:f86de]

Hell, I wouldnt accept it no matter what it is called, its gay, why do you think its an insult to be called gay? Its because that means your weird, unnatural, sick, outcast, different, not normal. Have you ever noticed how most gays have something wrong with them? Eather a mental retardation, any form of abuse or harrasment, ahd, birth defomity, and stuff like that your rarely see a gay who has no health problems or wasnt abused/harrasted. The is only ONE singualr reason for life, to continue it, if you arent going to, then you arent worth mich then are you, youd have to do something else EXTREMELY great to pay off the fact you arent gonna get it on with a girl and not have the baby. That is alos a reason why I am completly against abortain and condoms. If your gonna do it then do it alll the way.

[quote="Cpl. Eames":eda73]You missed his point entirely, the point of the matter is not that homosexuality has been around since before christ, who cares?

Actually, that was the point. If you looked at the post Noctis responded to, you would see that I was making a statement in response to what Old Reliable made. Noctis was debating my argument, I dont know what the fuck you are talking about.

That does not make it any more valid. He's saying that its been against western-juedeo-christian values for thousands of years,

My point was, that since homosexuality has existed BEFORE these so called 'values,' it would be the other way around, wouldnt it? How can it be contrary to christian values if it predates it? Maybe Christian values are contrary to human emotions.

the same values that this country was built upon and you can't force people to accept homosexual marriages as being the same as a marriage between a man and a women.

Thats why our constitution was created so that it could be amended as time presented new situations and could keep up with the times. What are you being forced to accept?? Your marriage with a women would not be affected by a marriage between a man and another man. The 'force' in this debate is a person not being able to marry the person he or she loves. Its fine if you dont approve of it, but you dont pass laws and restrictions based on your faith.

Thats what the issue is, when someone decides to be gay they should know they are sacraficing certain rights and privlages,

No one 'decides' to be gay. Being gay is that persons life. The government cannot ask you to sacrifice your rights because of the fact that you are gay.

no one is telling them they can't be gay...but that you can't get married because a "marriage" which has been defined since the begining of time as something between a man and a women. Two homosexual "partners" can not be married, they cant, its not what marriage is.

Again, that is a personal opinion and your viewpoint. Thanks for hiding it in the middle of your post.


Secondly, a point I brought up earlier which no one has even addressed is what would happen if gay marriages were legalized throughout the nation as a result of a supreme court ruling.

Hmm, I didnt catch that one, it must have been disguised under all of your bullshit you alwasy seem to drop here and there. But since we are here...

That ruling would serve as a precedent for other sicko's and perverts to get their demented fetishes

Umm how is homosexuality a fetish?

legalized, because if homosexual marriages are legal why couldnt poligomy be legalized too?

Polygamy is a serperate issue and not even close to homosexuality. This isnt about someones obsessive sex drive or desire to have 15 kids. Furthermore polygamy hurts people because it forces women into a subservient role in multiple marriages. I am against polygamy, whether it is hetero or homosexual.

The implications and precedents that legalizing homosexual marriages are what most people who understand the issue are against. Because they know it would serve as a precedent that would be used to get things such as poligomy legalized

No.

, because homosexual marriages would have redefined what marriage is.

That is actually a good point. It would redefine what a marriage is. But how is that bad? It would just imply that marriage is between two people, wouldnt it?


It would destroy the family because a family is defined as a husband, wife, and children...however now a days there are much more single parent families, the last thing we need is a guy having 3 wives and 10 kids and two homos adopting a kid...it would destroy the family as we know it and further degenerate our society.

That is polygamy, not homosexuality. Gay marriages do not lead to a rampant case of increased polygamy cases.

Its bad enough you fucking liberals want to take god out of our public lives, but leave the fucking concept of marriage and families alone.[/quote:eda73]

bla bla bla bla bla. Rhetoric.

Damnit it took me forever to resond to that post, Im trying to work here. Next time you want to make a point, dont surround it in bullshit and make sure you read the previous posts. You only made 2 arguments there, and only one was valid; ie the redefinition of marriage. Just face it, you dont want gays to get married because you and every other conservative republican are homophobics and/or you just hate them.

I honestly think all religious shit should be banned from North America...that way they will have to tolerate shit...and we would too.

don't see the point to of it all...

I would have thought one of the main things peolple wanting same sex unions/marriage is to
have the same financial rights that are automatically granted to hetero couples by law, access
to superanuation, granting of assets should one partner die etc., in this I say good luck to them.
It's not as if the ritual and vows of marriage are always respected by hetero couples anyway (Brittney
Spears anyone eek: ) the amount of divorce, abuse, cheating etc. would indicate to me that us heteros
have no room to talk when it comes what other consenting adults wish to do.

Noctis once again hits the nail with the hammer.

[img]http://www.jamesshuggins.com/i/web1/hammer_and_nail.jpg[/img]

Too bad Noctis has racists agreeing with him.