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Pyro 06-21-2004 03:40 PM

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his extremist right views made him a poor president.

<Trippar> http://www2.foxsearchlight.com/napoleon ... /index.php
<Trippar> Its Pyro

sleeping:

Tripper 06-21-2004 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by Tripper
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Originally Posted by Pyro
his extremist right views made him a poor president.

<Trippar> http://www2.foxsearchlight.com/napoleon ... /index.php
<Trippar> Its Pyro

sleeping:

If you sleep through it, you'll miss it, dummy. ITS YOU!!!!!!1

Short Hand 06-21-2004 04:05 PM

[quote="Garry Coleman":0357b]owned once again. Short Hand..give the fuck up and die.[/quote:0357b]

not really Garry no where close.

Short Hand 06-21-2004 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ShagNasty
The Soviet Union destroys it self and Reagan gets the credit, I find that very funny. Carter made the real deal for hostages in iraq who got the credit? I was 13 or so so I remember the real truth not historys version of what happened. i loved the kechup for schools vegtable too. lmao doesnt even know its a fruit.

lol shag nasty supports me a little bit, ..I never thought i would see this day ed:

MrLevinstein 06-21-2004 04:09 PM

[quote="Short Hand":1274b]
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Originally Posted by ShagNasty
The Soviet Union destroys it self and Reagan gets the credit, I find that very funny. Carter made the real deal for hostages in iraq who got the credit? I was 13 or so so I remember the real truth not historys version of what happened. i loved the kechup for schools vegtable too. lmao doesnt even know its a fruit.

lol shag nasty supports me a little bit, ..I never thought i would see this day ed:[/quote:1274b]

Support from one cumstain to another, true brotherhood.

elstatec 06-21-2004 04:23 PM

[quote=MrLevinstein]
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Originally Posted by "Short Hand":c0e9d
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Originally Posted by ShagNasty
The Soviet Union destroys it self and Reagan gets the credit, I find that very funny. Carter made the real deal for hostages in iraq who got the credit? I was 13 or so so I remember the real truth not historys version of what happened. i loved the kechup for schools vegtable too. lmao doesnt even know its a fruit.

lol shag nasty supports me a little bit, ..I never thought i would see this day ed:

Support from one cumstain to another, true brotherhood.[/quote:c0e9d]


rofl.

Short Hand 06-21-2004 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Colonel
Well, it's Father's Day so I don't have much time. I'll get to the rest of this stuff later but here is a couple of facts for ya:

1)
Spending on AIDS takes off; U.S. outlays nearly equal cancer or heart research

The Associated Press - Thursday, July 15, 1989


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BOSTON - The federal government will spend nearly as much this year on AIDS research and prevention as it will for cancer or heart disease and far more than it devotes to other major killers, an analysis shows.
And if current trends continue, such spending on AIDS will surpass that of all other diseases for the first time next year, researchers said. ....."We were surprised to learn the extent to which so many different individuals and agencies were involved in AIDS efforts," said Dr. William Winkenwerder. The analysis shows that AIDS spending -- more than $2 billion this year -- makes up nearly 10 percent of the total budget of the U.S. Public Health Service, which oversees government medical research, and by 1992, will account for nearly 13 percent. ......The report said that from 1982, when the epidemic began, to the end of this year, the federal government will have spent $5.5 billion on illness caused by HIV, the AIDS virus.

In 1989, federal AIDS spending will total $2.2 billion, or about 1 percent of all federal health expenditures. Of this, about $1.3 billion will be spent for research and prevention. The disease will kill 35,000 people.

By comparison, the government will spend $1.5 billion on research and prevention of cancer, which will kill 500,000 people this year, and $1 billion for heart disease, which will kill 777,000 Americans.

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This article is from 1989 - of course, it's after President Reagan left office, but it sheds a little light on what the thinking was at the time - the debate always was how much should you spend on a disease that kills a fraction of the number of people killed by cancer? - and, keep in mind that Federal budgets are approved a year, or sometimes more, in advance. But the main thing to consider is that the article points out " 1982, when the epidemic began," As I said before, this thing was new during his presidency and to me it is hard to fault an administration for not reacting quickly enough to something that they had no way of knowing would turn out to be the way it is.


2) Your quoting the same article referenced in my post. I don't see any facts in that article, only some guy spewing his own political agenda. Here are the facts about HUD...

[img]http://www.colonelbrands.com/images/hudasstch.gif[/img]

As you can see HUD spending increased every year of President Reagan's years in office. (the last couple of years it held fairly steady - increasing only slightly) I don't know when the term "homeless" was invented. It seems like I've heard it all of my life, but I could be wrong. I can tell you that seeing homeless guys was not "a curiosity" before President Reagan - I saw them all the time.

3) I forget the actual stat, but it's something like - the top 5% of the income producing folks in America pay 90% of the taxes. To say that giving everybody a 1% cut is unfair because that means a rich guy gets more in terms of actual dollars, to me, is silly. Of course, they get more back! They pay more in the first place! This same debate came up when President Bush was talking about his cuts. They interviewed some really low income women on TV who was irate that she wasn't getting anything. It turns out her income was so low she paid zero taxes. She paid zero but wanted something out of the tax cut. Unbelieveable. We have become a society that just wants to know "what's in it for me". Everybody has their hand out.

4) I'll have to get into the deregulation debate later. That is a whole 'nuther topic.

1. You didnt compare it to other presidency's.
2. You did't even get it during Reagen's Term.
3. that chart looks like a quick microsoft excel chop up, give me a link please to the site. (even though the info on it is not that impressing).

as it seems you just uploaded this today to this site (is it your site)

hudasstch.gif 20-Jun-2004 08:01 7k at 8:01 around the time of your post. Why not just remotely link it as you should ? are you concerned about the sites bandwidth ? or is this just your excel work as it looks.

link for more to see this-http://<b> <a href="http://www.colon...mages/</a></b>

in relation to the taxes.

typical for a capitilistic view, to see that. You would think that helping the poor with larger cuts would help out. How much is the government making off them in the first plaxce in taxes ???? Their is a reason these friggin rich people are responsible for 90 %.... because they are filthy rich. So. WHy not just give the poor who don't have that much to give the government in the first place a larger tax cut then their rich counter parts ????? if its only 10 % ? would this not give them the needed power to better themselves, and oddly enough put more money into the economy itself how little it may be. Poverty is a vicious cycle that most people don't quite understand until you are exposed to it clearly. My family itself at 1 point was on welfare for nearly half a year up in Canada. If it had not been for those checks in those months while my single mother with a baby would probably would have had to given up custody of us. compasion for the poor people, it hard to give but it works miracles.

http://www.colonelbrands.com ... mind me if im wrong but this looks like it may be your site, since their is no way to upload images to this site via public, unless your a web master. your name is colonel, your avatar is in "theme" of all of the stuff on that site........WHat a source to use peole "YOU OWN CHART"

If garry had half a brain while reading this and not huis current state of fanboy mentallity he my have seen all the fualts that came with it. I guess he see's large formations of words in order and he thinks that must be ownage. sorry but it ain't. ed:

Short Hand 06-21-2004 04:33 PM

[quote=MrLevinstein]
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Originally Posted by "Short Hand":1bdb7
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Originally Posted by ShagNasty
The Soviet Union destroys it self and Reagan gets the credit, I find that very funny. Carter made the real deal for hostages in iraq who got the credit? I was 13 or so so I remember the real truth not historys version of what happened. i loved the kechup for schools vegtable too. lmao doesnt even know its a fruit.

lol shag nasty supports me a little bit, ..I never thought i would see this day ed:

Support from one cumstain to another, true brotherhood.[/quote:1bdb7]

im a cumstain for being semi liberal & not liking the glory Regan is getting undeservedly ? Ni&&a please. Slanderous shit on your behalf.

elstatec 06-21-2004 04:35 PM

jesus why do you care now, hes dead leave it

MrLevinstein 06-21-2004 04:39 PM

Youre a cumstain because youre a cocky arrogant dipshit who thinks he knows better then people that live in the country that you critize. Id probably like you if you didnt stick your nose in our buisness all the time.

strvs 06-21-2004 04:40 PM

Just dig deeper short, its only going to get worse. wtf happened to you.

Merlin122 06-21-2004 04:41 PM

omfg

Pyro 06-21-2004 04:42 PM

Reagan sucked and took credit for the fall of communism on itself rather than because of America.

Plus the cold war wasn't all reagan it just happened to end with him. He did nothing but fuck up the country economically.

Snuff 06-21-2004 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
Reagan sucked and took credit for the fall of communism on itself rather than because of America.

Plus the cold war wasn't all reagan it just happened to end with him. He did nothing but fuck up the country economically.

More profound wisdom from the all knowing Pyro sleeping:
I'm sure while your mother was changing your shitty diapers that you kept a close eye on the ongoings of American politics.

Short Hand 06-21-2004 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MrLevinstein
Youre a cumstain because youre a cocky arrogant dipshit who thinks he knows better then people that live in the country that you critize. Id probably like you if you didnt stick your nose in our buisness all the time.

This what you don't get it is my buisness, its the world buisness, anything America does nowadays will effect the world.

as for strvs.

Im just not taking this extreme conservative bullshit here anymore, it is so fucking extreme and thick that Im not just oging tto watch the over patriotic flags wavers go on any more. Its time they realize something that being extreme right isn't the way. Take the Middle path of Buddhism. beer:

Short Hand 06-21-2004 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogman74
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Reagan sucked and took credit for the fall of communism on itself rather than because of America.

Plus the cold war wasn't all reagan it just happened to end with him. He did nothing but fuck up the country economically.

More profound wisdom from the all knowing Pyro sleeping:
I'm sure while your mother was changing your shitty diapers that you kept a close eye on the ongoings of American politics.

Its was a extremely well documented time in history. He doesn't need to live it to be educated about it MR Hog.

elstatec 06-21-2004 04:51 PM

[quote="Short Hand":fe8d9]
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Originally Posted by MrLevinstein
Youre a cumstain because youre a cocky arrogant dipshit who thinks he knows better then people that live in the country that you critize. Id probably like you if you didnt stick your nose in our buisness all the time.

This what you don't get it is my buisness, its the world buisness, anything America does nowadays will effect the world.

as for strvs.

Im just not taking this extreme conservative bullshit here anymore, it is so fucking extreme and thick that Im not just oging tto watch the over patriotic flags wavers go on any more. Its time they realize something that being extreme right isn't the way. Take the Middle path of Buddhism. beer:[/quote:fe8d9]


sleeping:

Snuff 06-21-2004 04:53 PM

[quote="Short Hand":e6c1c]
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Originally Posted by Hogman74
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Reagan sucked and took credit for the fall of communism on itself rather than because of America.

Plus the cold war wasn't all reagan it just happened to end with him. He did nothing but fuck up the country economically.

More profound wisdom from the all knowing Pyro sleeping:
I'm sure while your mother was changing your shitty diapers that you kept a close eye on the ongoings of American politics.

Its was a extremely well documented time in history. He doesn't need to live it to be educated about it MR Hog.[/quote:e6c1c]

Well if indeed he or yourself was a educated about Reagan's policies as you think you are, then either if you wouldn't make such generalizations. As I stated earlier, how can you truely appreciate his policies good or bad seeing that you don't live in America. Btw living during that time does give you a perspective that you can't just get from books.

Pyro 06-21-2004 04:54 PM

I was alive during the reagan age.

TGB! 06-21-2004 04:57 PM

You dont need to be an American or live in the country to appreciate the time.

HOWEVER! - you are making gross generalizations, thinking economics and world politics are as easy as you're making them out to be, and I dont think you've studied politics or econ enough to really understand anything you're dropping.

jujumantb 06-21-2004 05:00 PM

Anybody can write anything on the net and get you to believe it.
End of discusion! calmdown:

Snuff 06-21-2004 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
I was alive during the reagan age.

not old enough to have an understanding of what was going on. Hell I barely did in his second term. The point is that yours and Sh statements do not reflect the complexity of the events you are citing. You know that all things good or bad is not due to one president. Just too many broad generilzations. He was good for the country at that time in history and left a profound effect that still lasts today.

Pyro 06-21-2004 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogman74
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Originally Posted by Pyro
I was alive during the reagan age.

not old enough to have an understanding of what was going on. Hell I barely did in his second term. The point is that yours and Sh statements do not reflect the complexity of the events you are citing. You know that all things good or bad is not due to one president. Just too many broad generilzations. He was good for the country at that time in history and left a profound effect that still lasts today.

And he made the canadian dollar rise just like bush is. The yearsafter reagan is when we lsot our dollar.

Tripper 06-21-2004 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogman74
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Originally Posted by Pyro
I was alive during the reagan age.

not old enough to have an understanding of what was going on. Hell I barely did in his second term. The point is that yours and Sh statements do not reflect the complexity of the events you are citing. You know that all things good or bad is not due to one president. Just too many broad generilzations. He was good for the country at that time in history and left a profound effect that still lasts today.

....and yet they still nit-pick to find downfalls after his death.

That is what I call disrespect. Funny how it's coming from the most outspoken anti-americans on the forums..... rolleyes:

Maplegyver 06-21-2004 05:05 PM

funny how none critisized him when he was alive

Merlin122 06-21-2004 05:06 PM

taft>reagan

Short Hand 06-21-2004 05:06 PM

[quote="TGB!":edd30]You dont need to be an American or live in the country to appreciate the time.

HOWEVER! - you are making gross generalizations, thinking economics and world politics are as easy as you're making them out to be, and I dont think you've studied politics or econ enough to really understand anything you're dropping.
[/quote:edd30]

How could I drop this crap if I didn't understand it ? Jesus. When you don't want to argue you just say im some dumbass. Argue people by slandering them seems to be name of the game here. Honestly.

Snuff 06-21-2004 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by Hogman74
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Originally Posted by Pyro
I was alive during the reagan age.

not old enough to have an understanding of what was going on. Hell I barely did in his second term. The point is that yours and Sh statements do not reflect the complexity of the events you are citing. You know that all things good or bad is not due to one president. Just too many broad generilzations. He was good for the country at that time in history and left a profound effect that still lasts today.

And he made the canadian dollar rise just like bush is. The yearsafter reagan is when we lsot our dollar.

That is a Canadian issue. That shuld be taken up with the Canadin treasury.

Mr.Buttocks 06-21-2004 05:08 PM

I would have more respect for him if he had changed his name from Ronald Reagan to Ronald Raygun. That would have OWNED!!!!! happy:

Short Hand 06-21-2004 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripper
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Originally Posted by Hogman74
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Originally Posted by Pyro
I was alive during the reagan age.

not old enough to have an understanding of what was going on. Hell I barely did in his second term. The point is that yours and Sh statements do not reflect the complexity of the events you are citing. You know that all things good or bad is not due to one president. Just too many broad generilzations. He was good for the country at that time in history and left a profound effect that still lasts today.

....and yet they still nit-pick to find downfalls after his death.

That is what I call disrespect. Funny how it's coming from the most outspoken anti-americans on the forums..... rolleyes:

ohh snap here it comes.

Im anti American for voicing myself. thkz.

[DAS REICH] Blitz 06-21-2004 05:09 PM

Short Fag rock:

Maplegyver 06-21-2004 05:11 PM

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Short Hand 06-21-2004 05:11 PM

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":9f02a]Short Fag rock:[/quote:9f02a]

Your contribution to this thread was invalueble, aa.com salutes you.

strvs 06-21-2004 05:13 PM

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Mr.Buttocks 06-21-2004 05:13 PM

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Holy hell! Synchronized ass opening! oOo:

Tripper 06-21-2004 05:16 PM

[quote="Short Hand":d6f6d]
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Originally Posted by Tripper
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Originally Posted by Hogman74
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
I was alive during the reagan age.

not old enough to have an understanding of what was going on. Hell I barely did in his second term. The point is that yours and Sh statements do not reflect the complexity of the events you are citing. You know that all things good or bad is not due to one president. Just too many broad generilzations. He was good for the country at that time in history and left a profound effect that still lasts today.

....and yet they still nit-pick to find downfalls after his death.

That is what I call disrespect. Funny how it's coming from the most outspoken anti-americans on the forums..... rolleyes:

ohh snap here it comes.

Im anti American for voicing myself. thkz.[/quote:d6f6d]

You're anti-american for voicing your opinion about whats wrong with america every chance you get - Even when an ex-president is dead.

....also, brandishing a sig that says, "Death to corporate America" doesn't help either.

Now, this is coming from a guy who disagrees with American foreign policy more often than not (Me) - Which is saying alot.

TGB! 06-21-2004 05:17 PM

[quote="Short Hand":f53f1][quote="TGB!":f53f1]You dont need to be an American or live in the country to appreciate the time.

HOWEVER! - you are making gross generalizations, thinking economics and world politics are as easy as you're making them out to be, and I dont think you've studied politics or econ enough to really understand anything you're dropping.
[/quote:f53f1]

How could I drop this crap if I didn't understand it ? Jesus. When you don't want to argue you just say im some dumbass. Argue people by slandering them seems to be name of the game here. Honestly.[/quote:f53f1]

Understanding? You're just posting links to articles that agree with your opinion. Tell us then Short how Reagans economic policy shattered the United States. Tell us how Reagans attemps at New Federalism was the wrong move seeing the state of the country at the time. Explain w/o resorting to saying - "oh he rose the national debt" - What president HASNT.

[DAS REICH] Blitz 06-21-2004 05:17 PM

[quote="Short Hand":411a2][quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":411a2]Short Fag rock:[/quote:411a2]

Your contribution to this thread was invalueble, aa.com salutes you.[/quote:411a2]

Liberal Heebs, there is nothing better oOo:

Short Hand 06-21-2004 05:19 PM

[quote="TGB!":a74cd][quote="Short Hand":a74cd][quote="TGB!":a74cd]You dont need to be an American or live in the country to appreciate the time.

HOWEVER! - you are making gross generalizations, thinking economics and world politics are as easy as you're making them out to be, and I dont think you've studied politics or econ enough to really understand anything you're dropping.
[/quote:a74cd]

How could I drop this crap if I didn't understand it ? Jesus. When you don't want to argue you just say im some dumbass. Argue people by slandering them seems to be name of the game here. Honestly.[/quote:a74cd]

Understanding? You're just posting links to articles that agree with your opinion. Tell us then Short how Reagans economic policy shattered the United States. Tell us how Reagans attemps at New Federalism was the wrong move seeing the state of the country at the time. Explain w/o resorting to saying - "oh he rose the national debt" - What president HASNT.[/quote:a74cd]





sleeping: sleeping: sleeping: sleeping: sleeping: Is that not what we have been debating threw out the whole thread ?. Fuck it/ fuck this thread. 29 on 1 is bullshit.

elstatec 06-21-2004 05:21 PM

think before you make a thread oOo:


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