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Drew 06-28-2004 11:36 AM

Just to reference the insanely deep bullshit on the GPAs, here are the national guidelines for GPAs:

National Unweighted: 4.0 (Perfect)
National Weighted: 5.0 (Perfect)

There is a way to beat the system with AP courses and max out at 5.5, but there isn't a school system in the US that has offered courses in a manner which has allowed a student to do so yet.

Milla 06-28-2004 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis
Just to reference the insanely deep bullshit on the GPAs, here are the national guidelines for GPAs:

National Unweighted: 4.0 (Perfect)
National Weighted: 5.0 (Perfect)

There is a way to beat the system with AP courses and max out at 5.5, but there isn't a school system in the US that has offered courses in a manner which has allowed a student to do so yet.

owned rock:

Eames 06-28-2004 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis
Just to reference the insanely deep bullshit on the GPAs, here are the national guidelines for GPAs:

National Unweighted: 4.0 (Perfect)
National Weighted: 5.0 (Perfect)

There is a way to beat the system with AP courses and max out at 5.5, but there isn't a school system in the US that has offered courses in a manner which has allowed a student to do so yet.

take enough ap courses and you can, these kids took online ap courses in addition to 2 years of taking 7 ap classes, at my high school you could start taking ap classes your sophmore year and by your junior year you could take all ap courses, ap courses add .8 to your gpa when you take alot your gpa is boosted. my unweighted gpa was only 3.4 but throughout my high school career i only took ap and honors level classes, honors level classes only add .4 to your gpa but still you start your freshman and sophmore years taking all honors classes and by your junior and senior year your taking all ap courses your gpa is going to be hyper inflated. i have no idea where you got your statistics noctis, but they aren't correct.

Tripper 06-28-2004 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eames
you don't know what its like, especially you tripper the only thing you know about minorites is what you see on tv, how many non white people are there in all of new zealand? 100 at most?? probably all asians too. so, untill you actually live with them and deal with them on a daily basis, don't fucking judge me because you don't know whats its like.


[quote:02477]In 2001, there were people from 181 different ethnic groups living in Auckland city. This means that Auckland City Council governs the most ethnically diverse population of any of the territorial local authorities in the Auckland region or the nation.
[/quote:02477]

I live in an area where European/Whites are 48%, the rest are Pacific Islander, Maori, Asian, Indian, and various others.....The biggest being Pacific Islander.....and I'd know more about living with other races than you ever would - My brother-in-law is full Samoan, my neice is half-cast. I even dated a Samoan girl for a while.

So don't even fucking start with me, and how I don't know about the acceptance of other races into general society. You'll just make yourself look more fucking stupid.

You silly ignorant fuck.

Drew 06-28-2004 02:17 PM

First of all, the national standards for college admission do not recognize anything over a 5.0 GPA.

That being said, Honors courses will get you .25 to your weighted GPA, AP and Dual-Enrollment courses will get you .45 to your GPA (assuming you make all A's).

Here is some information on how AP is weighted:

[quote:f26b5]Calculation of Weighted GPA

A. Students shall receive bonus points added to their non-weighted GPA for all Advanced Placement courses that they complete with a semester grade of C or better. Beginning with the 2004-2005 school year, in order to receive a weighted grade, a student must take the AP test associated with the AP course and earn a score of 3 or higher on the test.

B. In order to receive credit for a yearlong course, students must complete both semesters of an Advanced Placement course. Students in a yearlong AP course will lose the first semester bonus points if they do not complete the second semester of the course and take the test, earning a score of 3 or higher. It will be noted on the transcript that the weighted grade is contingent upon taking the AP test and earning a score of 3 or higher. The weight will be added to the transcript when the student’s score is received from the College Board.

C. GPA bonus points shall be calculated as follows for a full year course:

Grade Bonus Points
A .045
B .0225
C .015
D No bonus points[/quote:f26b5]

Furthermore, more than 75% of AP courses are year-long which necessitates the completion of two full semesters of instruction to receive credit. Also, Federal law limits the number of courses a student can take in a school year to 12 on block scheduling (5 per semester and two summer school) or 10 on traditional scheduling (8 per day and two in summer school). Summer courses taken post-graduation are not counted toward your GPA.

So eat me.

TGB! 06-28-2004 02:32 PM

LOL@7.2!!

Unless they started giving out Super-A's since I was in school. . .that number is ridiculous bullshit. 7.2 - get the fuck outta here.

Tripper 06-28-2004 02:34 PM

[quote="TGB!":cc708]LOL@7.2!!

Unless they started giving out Super-A's since I was in school. . .that number is ridiculous bullshit. 7.2 - get the fuck outta here.
[/quote:cc708]

So we can safely say he IS an un-educated redneck, then?

Guess I was right afterall. beer:

Tystnad 06-28-2004 02:37 PM

[quote="TGB!":56098]LOL@5.2!!

Unless they started giving out Super-A's since I was in school. . .that number is ridiculous bullshit. 5.2 - get the fuck outta here.
[/quote:56098]

Corrected.

TGB! 06-28-2004 02:44 PM

[quote=Tystnad]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "TGB!":ece45
LOL@5.2!!

Unless they started giving out Super-A's since I was in school. . .that number is ridiculous bullshit. 5.2 - get the fuck outta here.

Corrected.[/quote:ece45]

Are you on special terms with Eames? It says 7.2 up there. Even 5.2 is impossible since mathematically there would have to be a class worth 6.0 points. AP classes are worth 1 more point than the average class - so when I got a B in my Physics class it was an A. But to get a 5.0 youd need to have had ALL AP classes throughout your ENTIRE HS career. Any grade in a non-AP class - again with that crazy math - would bring the 5.0 down, so even if you took ONE class and got an A that a is worth 4.0 and would drag your shit down. 5.2 is an impossibility. 7.2 is just bullshitting because you can. spank:

Tystnad 06-28-2004 03:14 PM

[quote="TGB!":f6ffc][quote=Tystnad]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "TGB!":f6ffc
LOL@5.2!!

Unless they started giving out Super-A's since I was in school. . .that number is ridiculous bullshit. 5.2 - get the fuck outta here.

Corrected.[/quote:f6ffc]

Are you on special terms with Eames? It says 7.2 up there. Even 5.2 is impossible since mathematically there would have to be a class worth 6.0 points. AP classes are worth 1 more point than the average class - so when I got a B in my Physics class it was an A. But to get a 5.0 youd need to have had ALL AP classes throughout your ENTIRE HS career. Any grade in a non-AP class - again with that crazy math - would bring the 5.0 down, so even if you took ONE class and got an A that a is worth 4.0 and would drag your shit down. 5.2 is an impossibility. 7.2 is just bullshitting because you can. spank: [/quote:f6ffc]

Dont get me wrong, i liek the stuff i flush down the toilet more than Eames.
I just didnt see that 7.2 bullcrap, only the 5.2 he pulled earlier. loney:

ShagNasty 06-28-2004 04:08 PM

Rebuttle for Trippers highly thought out post.


I am sick of the blacks who cry about slavery, and want reprimand in the form of cash, and blacks trying to say that blacks beat there kids from being slaves, its handed down from generation to generation bull shit. Jews were slaves much longer than the blacks and they don’t have this problem.

The white man is the minority in America. Affirmative action will let a minority get a job that a non minority is more qualified for. I believe in 100% equal rights but the blacks seem to not to truly want it.

Here are some other examples.

1: B.E.T black entertainment channel. No white counter part.
2: the united negro scholarship fund.


If there was an all white channel the blacks would scream racism, have just a white scholarship fund o my god. the cry of out rage would be huge. Now don’t get me wrong we needed these things like 25 or 30 years ago but now they have to stop it to make us all equal.

You think I am a racist because I attack TGB well pal I hated him before I ever knew he was black. He is one of the types of black people that try and make them selves out to be better than others, and he isn’t. Hence I like to fuck with him. I don’t like people who try and put them selves over people as in thinking they are superior. And then you jump in because you think I am a racist and you have no idea at all what you’re talking about. I believe you 1st hated me a few years ago when the Michael Jackson topic came up and I called him a pedophile, and you and ED aka TGB ripped on me, looks like I was right not you guys. But we will see soon on that one won’t us.

Next thing you ripped on me for was the beltway snipers. I said it took no skill what they were doing. As in any body can kill an innocent person with a rifle. Then you and a few others didn’t seem to comprehend what I meant. And tried to say that I said military snipers had no skill and that was not the case, I know they have great skill, but shooting an unarmed civilian does not take skill. And I would say I was right look at how they got caught by pure stupidity.

As for me I have a fucking great sense of humor, and that’s why I find it so funny what these kids did.


PS. Take note how I didn’t insult you, can you do the same? I personally doubt you’re capable of a real debate lets see what you got.

ShagNasty 06-28-2004 04:25 PM

[quote:f6203]I live in an area where European/Whites are 48%, the rest are Pacific Islander, Maori, Asian, Indian, and various others.....The biggest being Pacific Islander.....and I'd know more about living with other races than you ever would - My brother-in-law is full Samoan, my neice is half-cast. I even dated a Samoan girl for a while.

So don't even fucking start with me, and how I don't know about the acceptance of other races into general society. You'll just make yourself look more fucking stupid.

You silly ignorant fuck.
[/quote:f6203]



I have black cousins, Mexican cousins, and friends off all races. I don’t like people who think they are better than others, as for living with other races let’s see. I grew up poor in a place called the projects every race you can imagine was there. So I say I lived with much more race Varity than you. And in a much more violent place.

I am so racist but I am the 1st to stop on the road to help any one who needs it regardless of color. One time I was in a store and a black kid was caught stealing some gloves and they were going to call the cops so I bought him the gloves. It was cold and I knew how it was to be poor.






I think you mistake my white pride for racism. But in this day in age a white person can’t speak of pride with out being a racist I guess right. I mean my race created the best shit in the world but I can’t be proud because they happen to be white right?

Short Hand 06-28-2004 04:29 PM

you do realize they are a minority, and we are a majority right ?... a majority such as ourselves does not need over amplified representation such as BET or a scholorship fund. Why ? because we are a majority already, its simply to help out a struggling minority, that all. I see no problem with either.

1080jibber 06-28-2004 06:04 PM

[quote="Short Hand":f04e5]you do realize they are a minority, and we are a majority right ?... a majority such as ourselves does not need over amplified representation such as BET or a scholorship fund. Why ? because we are a majority already, its simply to help out a struggling minority, that all. I see no problem with either.[/quote:f04e5]

ShagNasty is retarded, he wont understand

elstatec 06-28-2004 06:04 PM

YO shagnasty, WWF Former Intercontinental Rowdy Rowdy Piper called and said die

Tripper 06-28-2004 06:13 PM

[quote="Short Hand":2e989]you do realize they are a minority, and we are a majority right ?... a majority such as ourselves does not need over amplified representation such as BET or a scholorship fund. Why ? because we are a majority already, its simply to help out a struggling minority, that all. I see no problem with either.[/quote:2e989]

I'm amazed - But SH is absolutely right.

ShagNasty, your post was simply one big irrelevent story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
ou think I am a racist because I attack TGB well pal I hated him before I ever knew he was black. He is one of the types of black people that try and make them selves out to be better than others, and he isn’t. Hence I like to fuck with him. I don’t like people who try and put them selves over people as in thinking they are superior. And then you jump in because you think I am a racist and you have no idea at all what you’re talking about.

I don't think you're racist because you attack TGB. You're wrong. I think you're racist because you generalise and post racist statements. So that blows that entire paragraph out of any serious debate.

An example would be that post that TGB had quoted in his sig for a while - That is an entirely racist generalisation.

I also think you're mixed up....Remember Racism isn't the same as prejudice. Racism is simply ignorance towards other races, when you're being prejudice you're essentially acting out those racist views by discriminating against others based on race. I never said you did that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
I believe you 1st hated me a few years ago when the Michael Jackson topic came up and I called him a pedophile, and you and ED aka TGB ripped on me, looks like I was right not you guys. But we will see soon on that one won’t us.

What has that got do with anything? My motive for arguing against you was not based on any kind of racial issues. This is one reason for why I think you need to think before you post. All you're doing here is looking back into the past, and remembering arguments we had that had something to do with people that were black.

What has it got to do with the current debate??

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
Next thing you ripped on me for was the beltway snipers. I said it took no skill what they were doing. As in any body can kill an innocent person with a rifle. Then you and a few others didn’t seem to comprehend what I meant. And tried to say that I said military snipers had no skill and that was not the case, I know they have great skill, but shooting an unarmed civilian does not take skill. And I would say I was right look at how they got caught by pure stupidity.

Again - What has any of this got to do with anything?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
As for me I have a fucking great sense of humor, and that’s why I find it so funny what these kids did.

Some might say it is a twisted sense of humour. (This isn't an insult)

There. No Insults.[/b]

Tripper 06-28-2004 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
[quote:816d4]I live in an area where European/Whites are 48%, the rest are Pacific Islander, Maori, Asian, Indian, and various others.....The biggest being Pacific Islander.....and I'd know more about living with other races than you ever would - My brother-in-law is full Samoan, my neice is half-cast. I even dated a Samoan girl for a while.

So don't even fucking start with me, and how I don't know about the acceptance of other races into general society. You'll just make yourself look more fucking stupid.

You silly ignorant fuck.



Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
I have black cousins, Mexican cousins, and friends off all races. I don’t like people who think they are better than others, as for living with other races let’s see. I grew up poor in a place called the projects every race you can imagine was there.

That smells like bullshit to me, a white kid growing up in the projects - highly unlikely.....But, I'm not going to go down that road because I could be very wrong. I'd like to see what one of the other Americans on the forums would say about that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
So I say I lived with much more race Varity than you. And in a much more violent place.

How can you possibly say that without visiting my neighbourhood? You can't.
Not that it has anything do with you anyway - My statement was aimed at Eames (....and I'm still waiting on a response from him).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
I think you mistake my white pride for racism. But in this day in age a white person can’t speak of pride with out being a racist I guess right. I mean my race created the best shit in the world but I can’t be proud because they happen to be white right?

[/quote:816d4]

You can be proud. I'm proud of who I am and where I come from.

....But that has nothing to do with anything. I called you a racist, not a prejudice white power nazi. There's nothing you can say that can make me feel differently about you at the moment. I've seen the stuff you've posted it was ignorant and generalising. The post you made in this thread just furthers that view of you.

Eames 06-28-2004 06:45 PM

whatever i guess my county does their gpa's different from you guys, i could care less if you don't believe me.

Tripper 06-28-2004 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eames
whatever i guess my county does their gpa's different from you guys, i could care less if you don't believe me.

EWE GOT OWNED.

Eames 06-28-2004 06:53 PM

no i didnt, what noctis is talking about is how colleges measaure and weigh your gpa for admission. i was talking about my final weighted gpa in hillsborough county where i fucking live. ill fucking scan my final report card and post it if that would make you guys happy.

Drew 06-28-2004 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eames
no i didnt, what noctis is talking about is how colleges measaure and weigh your gpa for admission. i was talking about my final weighted gpa in hillsborough county where i fucking live. ill fucking scan my final report card and post it if that would make you guys happy.

It would.

Tripper 06-28-2004 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eames
no i didnt, what noctis is talking about is how colleges measaure and weigh your gpa for admission. i was talking about my final weighted gpa in hillsborough county where i fucking live. ill fucking scan my final report card and post it if that would make you guys happy.

It would.


Eames 06-28-2004 07:12 PM

ill scan it tomorow for you ladies when i get home

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 06-28-2004 08:39 PM

& i shall spooj on et

Conscript 06-28-2004 09:21 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":dab36]& i shall spooj on et[/quote:dab36]
Make sure he scans it with a hi DPI for that extra sensation happy:

ShagNasty 06-28-2004 09:59 PM

[quote:058f8]you do realize they are a minority, and we are a majority right ?... a majority such as ourselves does not need over amplified representation such as BET or a scholarship fund. Why? Because we are a majority already, its simply to help out a struggling minority, that all. I see no problem with either.
[/quote:058f8]

That is true I guess, but how long do they get this special treatment. Why don’t they have a Chinese entertainment channel, or a Mexican one, there minorities too? I saw all should be equal. I think black like to blame white people for every thing and that’s the things I hate about them. They use the race card way to much.

ex: I was arrest once and in booking there a drunk black guy sitting there arrested for crack, and he says its only because he black. I told the cop don’t you get sick of that crap he agreed of course. you ever get in a fight with a black for what ever reason and the cops show he will say you called him a N*****, which I never use because you have to be politically correct now days right. Take your loss like a man and stop using race cards.

PS: I know not all black people are like this I have friends that are cool as hell that are black. I am just sick of the blame game.



Now tripper.










[quote:058f8]I also think you're mixed up....Remember Racism isn't the same as prejudice. Racism is simply ignorance towards other races, when you're being prejudice you're essentially acting out those racist views by discriminating against others based on race. I never said you did that.
[/quote:058f8]






[quote:058f8]rac•ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.
1:The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2:Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
[/quote:058f8]


I think you don’t know what racism is come down to that comprehension thing.




The examples I made of the past post were a statement how in them post you called me every name in the book and it turns out I was right. Ok


By the way nice job on the reply I didn’t think you could with out a name.

ShagNasty 06-28-2004 10:09 PM

TRIPPER said:


[/quote]That smells like bullshit to me, a white kid growing up in the projects - highly unlikely.....But, I'm not going to go down that road because I could be very wrong. I'd like to see what one of the other Americans on the forums would say about that.
[quote:1085f]

My mom and dad divorced when I was like 6 mom poor and on welfare so we had to live in low income housing. Aka the projects. And yes we had a very wide variety of races to say the least.



[/quote:1085f]quote:
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Originally posted by ShagNasty:
So I say I lived with much more race Varity than you. And in a much more violent place.
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How can you possibly say that without visiting my neighbourhood? You can't.
Not that it has anything do with you anyway - My statement was aimed at Eames (....and I'm still waiting on a response from him).

[quote:1085f]

sorry didn’t see the EAMS in your heading 1st time.

Isn’t the USA know for being the most violent country in the world, well the civilized world, and don’t you relise that most crime happened in the ghetto aka project aka low income housing. So yeah I can be pretty certain I lived in a more violent place than you.



PS: if racism is what you thought it was we would all be racist. You know every culture and how they live, of course not.
[/quote:1085f]

06-28-2004 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis
First of all, the national standards for college admission do not recognize anything over a 5.0 GPA.

That being said, Honors courses will get you .25 to your weighted GPA, AP and Dual-Enrollment courses will get you .45 to your GPA (assuming you make all A's).

Here is some information on how AP is weighted:

[quote:e13e2]Calculation of Weighted GPA

A. Students shall receive bonus points added to their non-weighted GPA for all Advanced Placement courses that they complete with a semester grade of C or better. Beginning with the 2004-2005 school year, in order to receive a weighted grade, a student must take the AP test associated with the AP course and earn a score of 3 or higher on the test.

B. In order to receive credit for a yearlong course, students must complete both semesters of an Advanced Placement course. Students in a yearlong AP course will lose the first semester bonus points if they do not complete the second semester of the course and take the test, earning a score of 3 or higher. It will be noted on the transcript that the weighted grade is contingent upon taking the AP test and earning a score of 3 or higher. The weight will be added to the transcript when the student’s score is received from the College Board.

C. GPA bonus points shall be calculated as follows for a full year course:

Grade Bonus Points
A .045
B .0225
C .015
D No bonus points

Furthermore, more than 75% of AP courses are year-long which necessitates the completion of two full semesters of instruction to receive credit. Also, Federal law limits the number of courses a student can take in a school year to 12 on block scheduling (5 per semester and two summer school) or 10 on traditional scheduling (8 per day and two in summer school). Summer courses taken post-graduation are not counted toward your GPA.

So eat me.[/quote:e13e2]

even that's generous, my piece-of-shit district treated AP classes same as "normal" classes in the GPA mad:

doesn't matter anymore though, HS GPA only affects admission and first year scholarships; everything after that is based on your university performance. dance:

Maplegyver 06-28-2004 10:35 PM

lol?

Drew 06-28-2004 10:47 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":90e9d]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis
First of all, the national standards for college admission do not recognize anything over a 5.0 GPA.

That being said, Honors courses will get you .25 to your weighted GPA, AP and Dual-Enrollment courses will get you .45 to your GPA (assuming you make all A's).

Here is some information on how AP is weighted:

[quote:90e9d]Calculation of Weighted GPA

A. Students shall receive bonus points added to their non-weighted GPA for all Advanced Placement courses that they complete with a semester grade of C or better. Beginning with the 2004-2005 school year, in order to receive a weighted grade, a student must take the AP test associated with the AP course and earn a score of 3 or higher on the test.

B. In order to receive credit for a yearlong course, students must complete both semesters of an Advanced Placement course. Students in a yearlong AP course will lose the first semester bonus points if they do not complete the second semester of the course and take the test, earning a score of 3 or higher. It will be noted on the transcript that the weighted grade is contingent upon taking the AP test and earning a score of 3 or higher. The weight will be added to the transcript when the student’s score is received from the College Board.

C. GPA bonus points shall be calculated as follows for a full year course:

Grade Bonus Points
A .045
B .0225
C .015
D No bonus points

Furthermore, more than 75% of AP courses are year-long which necessitates the completion of two full semesters of instruction to receive credit. Also, Federal law limits the number of courses a student can take in a school year to 12 on block scheduling (5 per semester and two summer school) or 10 on traditional scheduling (8 per day and two in summer school). Summer courses taken post-graduation are not counted toward your GPA.

So eat me.[/quote:90e9d]

even that's generous, my piece-of-shit district treated AP classes same as "normal" classes in the GPA mad:

doesn't matter anymore though, HS GPA only affects admission and first year scholarships; everything after that is based on your university performance. dance:[/quote:90e9d]

They probably didn't affect your GPA because your school hadn't implemented weighted averages yet. Federal timelines require all school districts to have weighted averages implemented by the 2004-2005 school year (upcoming school year).

06-28-2004 10:53 PM

yeah I graduated in 2002; there was talk of implementing weighted grades in my district when I was between sophomore and junior years, but nothing materialized until after I graduated

Tripper 06-28-2004 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
TRIPPER said:


That smells like bullshit to me, a white kid growing up in the projects - highly unlikely.....But, I'm not going to go down that road because I could be very wrong. I'd like to see what one of the other Americans on the forums would say about that.
[quote:3607f]

My mom and dad divorced when I was like 6 mom poor and on welfare so we had to live in low income housing. Aka the projects. And yes we had a very wide variety of races to say the least.



[/quote:3607f]quote:
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Originally posted by ShagNasty:
So I say I lived with much more race Varity than you. And in a much more violent place.
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How can you possibly say that without visiting my neighbourhood? You can't.
Not that it has anything do with you anyway - My statement was aimed at Eames (....and I'm still waiting on a response from him).

[quote:3607f]

sorry didn’t see the EAMS in your heading 1st time.

Isn’t the USA know for being the most violent country in the world, well the civilized world, and don’t you relise that most crime happened in the ghetto aka project aka low income housing. So yeah I can be pretty certain I lived in a more violent place than you.



PS: if racism is what you thought it was we would all be racist. You know every culture and how they live, of course not.
[/quote:3607f][/quote]

Could you type this out so I can actually understand it? Dude, couldn't you go through posts like these before posting them up? I mean, it's all over the place. If you want me to understand the point you're trying to make.....

ShagNasty 06-28-2004 11:30 PM

Whats not to understand? I mean you should obviously know what you said I should not have to say tripper said this for ever quote do I.





quote:
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Originally posted by ShagNasty:
TRIPPER said:



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That smells like bullshit to me, a white kid growing up in the projects - highly unlikely.....But, I'm not going to go down that road because I could be very wrong. I'd like to see what one of the other Americans on the forums would say about that.

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so I replyed with this ok.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


My mom and dad divorced when I was like 6 mom poor and on welfare so we had to live in low income housing. Aka the projects. And yes we had a very wide variety of races to say the least.




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quote:
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Originally posted by ShagNasty:
So I say I lived with much more race Varity than you. And in a much more violent place.
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YOU AS IN TRIPPER SAID.

How can you possibly say that without visiting my neighbourhood? You can't.
Not that it has anything do with you anyway - My statement was aimed at Eames (....and I'm still waiting on a response from him).


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quote:
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I REPLYED BY SAYING THIS.

sorry didn’t see the EAMS in your heading 1st time.

Isn’t the USA know for being the most violent country in the world, well the civilized world, and don’t you relise that most crime happened in the ghetto aka project aka low income housing. So yeah I can be pretty certain I lived in a more violent place than you.

OK HERE I THOUGHT YOU WOULD REMEMBER YOUR SAYING ABOUT RACISM:
YOU SAID THIS
"I also think you're mixed up....Remember Racism isn't the same as prejudice. Racism is simply ignorance towards other races, when you're being prejudice you're essentially acting out those racist views by discriminating against others based on race. I never said you did that."


SO I JUST ADDED IT AS A AFTER THOUGHT:

PS: if racism is what you thought it was we would all be racist. You know every culture and how they live, of course not.

AND IF YOU DONT KNOW THE MEANING OF RACISM LOOK BACK TO WHERE I QUOTED IT IN PAST POST IN THIS THREAD.

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Could you type this out so I can actually understand it? Dude, couldn't you go through posts like these before posting them up? I mean, it's all over the place. If you want me to understand the point you're trying to make.....






DID THAT HELP YOU?

KTOG 06-28-2004 11:35 PM

Founding_Law ... who spells their name with an underscore.

Tripper 06-28-2004 11:37 PM

[/quote="ShagNasty"]
Now tripper.

[quote:8fe33]I also think you're mixed up....Remember Racism isn't the same as prejudice. Racism is simply ignorance towards other races, when you're being prejudice you're essentially acting out those racist views by discriminating against others based on race. I never said you did that.
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[quote:8fe33]rac•ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.
1:The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2:Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
[/quote:8fe33]


I think you don’t know what racism is come down to that comprehension thing.


The examples I made of the past post were a statement how in them post you called me every name in the book and it turns out I was right. Ok


By the way nice job on the reply I didn’t think you could with out a name.[/quote]

When I called you a racist, I meant definition number 1....

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Originally Posted by ShagNasty
The examples I made of the past post were a statement how in them post you called me every name in the book and it turns out I was right. Ok

You were right about what???

ShagNasty 06-28-2004 11:54 PM

[quote:7a243]You were right about what???
[/quote:7a243]



1: That Michael Jackson is a pedophile. I am 98% sure he will be found guilty.
2: The belt way sniper was a coward and an idiot. I think we can all see that now right?



You did defend both of these, you basically said the kids just want Jacksons money and he didn’t do shit remember.


The belt way thing you were saying how skillfull he was and so smart not to get caught.
The irony is he got caught by the stupidest mistake.



Ohh and I admit I am not a pro like you with all the quotes and shit I don’t do this for a living.

Conscript 06-28-2004 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ShagNasty
Whats not to understand? I mean you should obviously know what you said I should not have to say tripper said this for ever quote do I.





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Originally posted by ShagNasty:
TRIPPER said:



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That smells like bullshit to me, a white kid growing up in the projects - highly unlikely.....But, I'm not going to go down that road because I could be very wrong. I'd like to see what one of the other Americans on the forums would say about that.

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so I replyed with this ok.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


My mom and dad divorced when I was like 6 mom poor and on welfare so we had to live in low income housing. Aka the projects. And yes we had a very wide variety of races to say the least.




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Originally posted by ShagNasty:
So I say I lived with much more race Varity than you. And in a much more violent place.
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YOU AS IN TRIPPER SAID.

How can you possibly say that without visiting my neighbourhood? You can't.
Not that it has anything do with you anyway - My statement was aimed at Eames (....and I'm still waiting on a response from him).


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I REPLYED BY SAYING THIS.

sorry didn’t see the EAMS in your heading 1st time.

Isn’t the USA know for being the most violent country in the world, well the civilized world, and don’t you relise that most crime happened in the ghetto aka project aka low income housing. So yeah I can be pretty certain I lived in a more violent place than you.

OK HERE I THOUGHT YOU WOULD REMEMBER YOUR SAYING ABOUT RACISM:
YOU SAID THIS
"I also think you're mixed up....Remember Racism isn't the same as prejudice. Racism is simply ignorance towards other races, when you're being prejudice you're essentially acting out those racist views by discriminating against others based on race. I never said you did that."


SO I JUST ADDED IT AS A AFTER THOUGHT:

PS: if racism is what you thought it was we would all be racist. You know every culture and how they live, of course not.

AND IF YOU DONT KNOW THE MEANING OF RACISM LOOK BACK TO WHERE I QUOTED IT IN PAST POST IN THIS THREAD.

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Could you type this out so I can actually understand it? Dude, couldn't you go through posts like these before posting them up? I mean, it's all over the place. If you want me to understand the point you're trying to make.....






DID THAT HELP YOU?[/quote]

Stop arguing on the interweb..

ShagNasty 06-28-2004 11:59 PM

[/quote]Stop arguing on the interweb..[quote:02a2d]



I think hell will freeze over 1st.[/quote:02a2d]

Coleman 06-29-2004 12:01 AM

I'm not going to read the last 4 pages so....keep talking nag:

Tripper 06-29-2004 12:33 AM

FFS - It's not that I can't read the words and understand who said what, it's that you messed up the quoting and now it's all fucked up so it doesn't flow like a proper argument should - it's all over the place and would take more time than I care to give to unravel it all and put it in the right order for a rebuttle.

I will make a few points where I can:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
2: The belt way sniper was a coward and an idiot. I think we can all see that now right?

I never said he wasn't. My argument was that it took skill to do what they did, and to evade the police for as long as they did. I never condoned it like you're insinuating above.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
The belt way thing you were saying how skillfull he was and so smart not to get caught.
The irony is he got caught by the stupidest mistake.

.....Of course he was bound to make a mistake, you're not looking at it from where we were.

You can't say you won that argument. As for the Michael Jackson one, I can't even remember that, so I'm not going to get into that.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
Ohh and I admit I am not a pro like you with all the quotes and shit I don’t do this for a living.

I don't do this for a living either..... oOo:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
Isn’t the USA know for being the most violent country in the world, well the civilized world, and don’t you relise that most crime happened in the ghetto aka project aka low income housing. So yeah I can be pretty certain I lived in a more violent place than you.

No you can't. Just because statistics and surveys say that your COUNTRY is more violent overall than mine, it doesn't mean you grew up in a more violent area.

Until you visit my the area I grew up in and see it for yourself, you can't make a solid statement like that.

.....Not that this argument is relevant at all.... oOo:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShagNasty
PS: if racism is what you thought it was we would all be racist. You know every culture and how they live, of course not.

You've mis-read my post.

[quote:05f16]ac•ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.
1:The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2:Discrimination or prejudice based on race.[/quote:05f16]

Here is two definitions you posted. The first one (Number 1), is the one I've been refering too.

NOT the 2nd one.....You still with me?......and I still stand by that belief that you are racist under that definition.


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